God doesn't exist... agree or disagree?

[Kuroda Taishi]

Originally Posted by kentaru

friendly? anything but friendly you have your heads so far up your own asses its not even funny

This is a warning from a member of FAIL. Stay out of this thread kentaru or you will be infracted.

[trevmaster135]

Originally Posted by Jinchiruuki

And I highly doubt the earth was created in 7 days.

Uhmmm fossils?

In the bible is says "And on the 3rd day God created the Sun" or something along those lines.

Tell me this...how do you know it was the 3rd day when there was no Sun? We tell time by the setting and rising Sun to this day....the Aztecs used a Sun dial to accurately tell time.

Don't confuse faith with scientific proof.

to god there is no real time when he says days he could mean hours or years minutes weeks there is no telling it is just to help define cause in revelation it speaks of monsters they could be talking about machines planes tanks cause that didn't have those at that time

[trevmaster135]

oh yeah and here is a question for anyone out there who doesn't believe if there is no god how did the universe come in existance and no not the big bang that is a load of crap an explosion doesn't create things or bring life it destroys so it is utterly stupid

[BlazingStar]

There is a God, and there has to be. It's the only thing that really makes sense.
I mean how else was the Earth created? Evolution makes no sense and neither
does the Big Bang, both have been proven impossible multiple times. The only
logical explanation for such a balance is a higher power.

[trevmaster135]

Originally Posted by Cursed Uchiha

You science worshipers also have not proved that he doesn't exsist let alone proved anything that has happened 100% to be true. Whether you hate the Chirtian religon or not is not my matter, but when science constantly tries to disprove it an fails it makes you even less credible than the bible is. You try to explain what happens in the world but you never can. Like evolution if we did evolve from fish why did we stop and where are the mistakes? and on top of that science is about as much of a religon as my faith.

yeah scientists have said there has to be a higher being

[trevmaster135]

Originally Posted by kentaru

friendly? anything but friendly you have your heads so far up your own asses its not even funny

uh calm down dude its not like a fist fight or argue ment it is a bunch of people discussing on a world wide concept

[trevmaster135]

Originally Posted by AshenREAPER

Don't get me wrong, there are definitely good things that religions can teach you. But any religion that teaches that, "it's our way or the highway," loses all my respect.

its not my way or the highway its gods way or hell we can't help anyone to stubborn to listen

[trevmaster135]

Originally Posted by trevmaster135

uh calm down dude its not like a fist fight or argue ment it is a bunch of people discussing on a world wide concept

oh i forgot to mention i find anger and sadness a waste of time in fact i believe anyone who lets anger get to them is to weak to control there emotions

[Err]

Originally Posted by RAMENKING

if your born into church and are forced to go you can have a "immunity" towards religeon because you have never not known religeon. does that make any sense?.. while i was going to church the fear of hell and need of heaven kept me there, or so i thought. something happened when i was 17ish at a church event and i decided i would never go back, i left the church and decided i was going to do things "my way". my life turned to sh"t real quick and i didn't even realize it, i was to smashed or to busy getting laid or whatever and i was ok with it. its fun right? . but my life with my family started sucking balls, my girlfriend left me, i stopped going to school, and i was depressed, sad and angry most of the time, i would call my old christian friends crazy. then about 6 months ago (im 20 now) i was thinking back on my life and the experiences that i had been through. and decided my life was better before i had left the church, my life wasn't just better it was the epitomy of "good". And i decided god was real through how God had positively affected my life. and as of 6th months ago my life has been good again. to know god i had to not know god. uknow? Ipray to him everyday, and i can see how he has been blessing my life.


how can you talk of a God you have NEVER known.

If you had a personal experience, and that made you believe there was a God, then great. That only proves that God exists for you and others who have had similar experiences, but personal experiences are of no interest to me. That still does not prove there's God, it's going to take some repeatable testes and evidence. If you don't have that, then I have no basis to fool myself that there is a God.

Originally Posted by BlazingStar

There is a God, and there has to be. It's the only thing that really makes sense.
I mean how else was the Earth created? Evolution makes no sense and neither
does the Big Bang, both have been proven impossible multiple times. The only
logical explanation for such a balance is a higher power.

Actually, what doesn't make sense is the bible.

Originally Posted by kentaru

friendly? anything but friendly you have your heads so far up your own asses its not even funny

I'm not the one throwing out insults. Though I don't agree with your statement, I can have my head as far up my ass as I want, but that still doesn't make it not friendly.

Originally Posted by Blind Uchiha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeconiah

Contradiction is a result in translation. Slaves in Bible times were much closer to modern day servants and once again the Bible did not promote the practice. As for Jephthah, I have read this passage before and I found it to be disagreeable to me. I can't really argue with you on this one fully, because I don't believe I can accurately explain it to myself.

How can you even know that it's accurate then? There's not another way to accurately explain this passage other than Jephthah kill his own daughter for God. I don't know how people can see these passages in the bible and say "Oh, that's interesting", and move on like nothing morally wrong happened. You should be shocked and disgusted to find something like this in the bible esp. if you consider it true.

Originally Posted by trevmaster135

oh yeah and here is a question for anyone out there who doesn't believe if there is no god how did the universe come in existance and no not the big bang that is a load of crap an explosion doesn't create things or bring life it destroys so it is utterly stupid

Not an explosion, but an expansion of the universe.

[SuperChoji]

Originally Posted by RAMENKING

although, my friend did have a trip on acid c2 while we were driving and he said he could see us driving (him sitting in the passenger seat) past as if he were something very small on the side of the road.
my experience was very liberating, i was in excrutiating pain throwing up blood thinking i was going to die when all of a sudden i flipped over and started floating upwards out of my body, the feeling of pain completely left (because i was not in my body iguess) and i hovered about 20-25 ft over my body in utter confusion watching EMT's and firemen put me on a stretcher, i felt myself start to drift further away and i thought (i say thought but it wasn't thinking it and i could not speak i kinda just emitted the words) "i dont want to die yet" and instantly i dropped like a rock back into my body.

"outerbody experiences" are just a reaction of chemicals in the brain that form after a trauma occurs.. and the pain that instantly went away was just a surge of adrenaline. like say you get punched in the arm hard and repeatedly, it doesn't hurt for a few minits but when the adrenaline wears off it will start to hurt again. but the chemical reaction in the brain iproduces similar outcomes when near death patients say they see a white light and feel all warm and fuzzy inside. this has been studied extensively otherwise i wouldnt be saying it.

[SuperChoji]

Originally Posted by trevmaster135

oh yeah and here is a question for anyone out there who doesn't believe if there is no god how did the universe come in existance and no not the big bang that is a load of crap an explosion doesn't create things or bring life it destroys so it is utterly stupid

yes.. bring that subject up with real scientists who have studied those things all their life... see how far your ignorance goes

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by BlazingStar

There is a God, and there has to be. It's the only thing that really makes sense.
I mean how else was the Earth created? Evolution makes no sense and neither
does the Big Bang, both have been proven impossible multiple times. The only
logical explanation for such a balance is a higher power.

It's already proven how Planets were created and was even observed by Astreologists.

Evolution makes no sense?Well explain how Humans and Apes are near Identical in more than just one matter.

And the only thing that disproves the Big Bang Theory are that COBE and WMAP have show Radiation of the Cosmos being Lump and all that really disproves about the Big Bang Theory is that the Universe has a different Gas Density (4%) and this with combination of Dark Matter (23%) and Dark Energy (73%) only shows that the Universe is expanding faster than thought.

Originally Posted by trevmaster135
oh yeah and here is a question for anyone out there who doesn't believe if there is no god how did the universe come in existance and no not the big bang that is a load of crap an explosion doesn't create things or bring life it destroys so it is utterly stupid

I have a Question for you.
Where did "God" come from then?Just popped up?
His mere existance makes less sense than what you claim about the Big Bang.

Big Bang isnt an Explosion but the Creation of Matter,Space and Time from Singularity.

[Demonfire_Ninja]

I dont believe that god exsists, however i also respect the opinions of those who do believe.
However I just dont like the idea of muttering into the air for help

[SuperChoji]

i believe in evolution after Divine Creation.. if that makes sence.. also i dont believe in the christan god. although the chistan faith has been somewhat shoved down my throat.. something else is out there. that is what i believe

[garra#2]

im glad im not the only one who doesnt believe...
i thinx u should go wif wat you feelz, not wat ppl tel u...
just remember, no religeon is bad...
they are all equal...

[SuperChoji]

Originally Posted by garra#2

im glad im not the only one who doesnt believe...
i thinx u should go wif wat you feelz, not wat ppl tel u...
just remember, no religeon is bad...
they are all equal...

... except the one that makes it mandatory to kill things..

[Kaizen Ichimaru]

I'm sorry to tell you this but there is no god. All of that stuff is bull crap, none of it is true...... face the facts the existence of a god makes no sense wat so ever

[SuperChoji]

Originally Posted by Kaizen Ichimaru

I'm sorry to tell you this but there is no god. All of that stuff is bull crap, none of it is true...... face the facts the existence of a god makes no sense wat so ever

thats just arrogance and ignorance in its purest form.. who cares if they they believe in it.. if it helps them through the day its all good.. thats their life.. and there is no need for you to shove your idea down their throat.. for all you know there probably is a god or atleast something out there.. there is absolutely no proof that there is or isn't a god..

next time to be an idiot when you say something

[trevmaster135]

Not an explosion, but an expansion of the universe.[/QUOTE]
sorry but if its an expansion what made it expand

[trevmaster135]

Originally Posted by SuperChoji

yes.. bring that subject up with real scientists who have studied those things all their life... see how far your ignorance goes

well maybe your the ignorant one because those scientist of yours have ately come to aconclusion that they were wrong about this big bang and there has to be a higher being and if your as smart as you think you are you should have knew that