Karin VS Mizuki

[deidara330]

Do you know of any two Naruto characters who are more foddery? I say that Karin could actually win due to having seemingly better speed feats and an intelligence above Mizuki's. She's also shown better tanking and actually has jutsu. Fillers do not count in this match, feats only.

[ECW Original]

All Mizuki's shown is an oversized shuriken.Karin's shown a little speed and survived being kicked into a wall by Danzo and,I think,having it fall on her.Karin wins,unless filler's counted.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Karin.

She's not total named generic fodder, and can likely tank anything Mizuki throws at her.

Unless we're talking about Filler Mizuki here.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Ummm... hard battle I'm going to go with Mizuki has has a good aim with giant shuriken and kunai but, Karin can heal herself sooo.... StaleMate? rofl

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by Cursed Uchiha

Ummm... hard battle I'm going to go with Mizuki has has a good aim with giant shuriken and kunai but, Karin can heal herself sooo.... StaleMate? rofl

Karin can only heal other people, not herself. However, she was able to tank a kick from Danzo and being launched quite a distance from the force of that kick. Shortly after taking it, she was still able to move around well enough. She should be able to tank any offensive Mizuki's shown, and should be able to dodge Mizuki's Giant Shuriken. She should also be able to use any weapons that miss her and throw them back at Mizuki.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Originally Posted by deidara330

Karin can only heal other people, not herself. However, she was able to tank a kick from Danzo and being launched quite a distance from the force of that kick. Shortly after taking it, she was still able to move around well enough. She should be able to tank any offensive Mizuki's shown, and should be able to dodge Mizuki's Giant Shuriken. She should also be able to use any weapons that miss her and throw them back at Mizuki.

Ok.... but its blunt damage vs Sharp Damage but, can't he silply keep baraging her with weapons

[ECW Original]

He only has two shuriken.

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by ECW Original

He only has one shuriken

No, he has two Giant Shuriken. One hit Iruka in the back, and the other was sent flying when Naruto tackled him. If Karin can just dodge those two Giant Shuriken and throw them back at Mizuki, she wins. He also showed some Kunai, but Iruka was still able to jump across trees after being hit by many of them. Karin should be able to tank them.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Originally Posted by deidara330

No, he has two Giant Shuriken. One hit Iruka in the back, and the other was sent flying when Naruto tackled him. If Karin can just dodge those two Giant Shuriken and throw them back at Mizuki, she wins. He also showed some Kunai, but Iruka was still able to jump across trees after being hit by many of them. Karin should be able to tank them.

Ok Mizuki doesn't even have a profile does he?

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by Cursed Uchiha

Ok Mizuki doesn't even have a profile does he?

Actually he does, I was the one who made it. Sadly, Mizuki isn't used very often in fights. But that's besides the topic. Do you agree that Mizuki could be beat by even Karin due to his lack of jutsu?

[Lady Tsunade]

Mizuki threw a Giant Shuriken and some Kunai, Karin tanked a kick from Danzo and has a carppy speed feat. Overall Mizuki wins, Karin has no attack power only some rubbish defensive feats.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by KillerKunoichixxx

Mizuki threw a Giant Shuriken and some Kunai, Karin tanked a kick from Danzo and has a carppy speed feat. Overall Mizuki wins, Karin has no attack power only some rubbish defensive feats.

This EXACTLY.

How can people even think Karin win's when she has no offensive capabilities whatsoever?
What's Karin gonna do stare him to death?

Mizuki is fodder but at least he's shown some attacks.

Karin took a Danzo GAR kick.So what?
Thats not the same as being as strook by a sharp or piercing object.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Originally Posted by V-Valentine

This EXACTLY.

How can people even think Karin win's when she has no offensive capabilities whatsoever?
What's Karin gonna do stare him to death?

Mizuki is fodder but at least he's shown some attacks.

Karin took a Danzo GAR kick.So what?
Thats not the same as being as strook by a sharp or piercing object.

Well the real question here is who is faster o.0" if Karin then she wins if equal then Mizuki wins and if Mizuki is faster then he wins she can always dodge and throw the crap back if she can lift it

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Karin has offensive capabilities. She has no way of beating Mizuki. Even if she manages to tank a few giant shruiken, she can't tank repeatedly getting hit by shruiken, kunai, and some basic Taijutsu. She has shown no means of counter attacking. She can tank a few of the attacks, but not ALL of them.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by SageoftheSixPaths

Karin has offensive capabilities. She has no way of beating Mizuki. Even if she manages to tank a few giant shruiken, she can't tank repeatedly getting hit by shruiken, kunai, and some basic Taijutsu. She has shown no means of counter attacking. She can tank a few of the attacks, but not ALL of them.

No she doesnt.
She only got 3 Jutsu's.
None of them are.
All she got is Heal Bite,Chakra Supression and Eye of Kagura.

And calling her slap to Suigetsu offensive would be a joke.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

So Karin is still the bottom she can't hit Mizuki so is anyone gonna change it or do I gotta?

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by SageoftheSixPaths

Karin has offensive capabilities. She has no way of beating Mizuki. Even if she manages to tank a few giant shruiken, she can't tank repeatedly getting hit by shruiken, kunai, and some basic Taijutsu. She has shown no means of counter attacking. She can tank a few of the attacks, but not ALL of them.

If she's faster, can't she just dodge them and throw them back? Naruto, with his measly chapter one speed feats, was able to catch Mizuki off guard while he was throwing his Shuriken. Iruka also tanked one of the shuriken and all the kunai Mizuki's shown. Karin tanking a kick from Danzo should be a much better Tanking feat, and Karin should also have better speed feats from the Danzo fight and various other fights.

Originally Posted by Cursed Uchiha

So Karin is still the bottom she can't hit Mizuki so is anyone gonna change it or do I gotta?

Karin is still technically winning the thread, you don't have to change her profile.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by deidara330

If she's faster, can't she just dodge them and throw them back? Naruto, with his measly chapter one speed feats, was able to catch Mizuki off guard while he was throwing his Shuriken. Iruka also tanked one of the shuriken and all the kunai Mizuki's shown. Karin tanking a kick from Danzo should be a much better Tanking feat, and Karin should also have better speed feats from the Danzo fight and various other fights.

Karin is still technically winning the thread, you don't have to change her profile.

Kicking isnt the same as taking a hit from a Shuriken.
From your logic your saying Blunt>Piercing which can be regarded as a Kick being more effective than getting Stabbed and cut.

One freaking hit with a Shuriken and its over.
She's not winning anything.She can't catch a Shuriken without getting injured.Shuriken Spin.Good Luck catching that.

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by V-Valentine

Kicking isnt the same as taking a hit from a Shuriken.
From your logic your saying Blunt>Piercing which can be regarded as a Kick being more effective than getting Stabbed and cut.

One freaking hit with a Shuriken and its over.
She's not winning anything.She can't catch a Shuriken without getting injured.Shuriken Spin.Good Luck catching that.

Well, it depends. Piercing damage can be tanked if it doesn't hit a vital point. Iruka was able to tank about 10 Kunai and one Giant Shuriken in the back and was still able to jump across trees following Mizuki. Additionally, heprobably could've thrown the Shuriken that hit him back at Mizuki if Mizuki hadn't run away. When did I say she had to catch them? Depending on the location, if the weapons simply land close enough to her, she can pick them up and throw them back at Mizuki. IIRC she's shown to be faster, if only slightly so.

[Lady Tsunade]

Originally Posted by deidara330

Well, it depends. Piercing damage can be tanked if it doesn't hit a vital point. Iruka was able to tank about 10 Kunai and one Giant Shuriken in the back and was still able to jump across trees following Mizuki. Additionally, heprobably could've thrown the Shuriken that hit him back at Mizuki if Mizuki hadn't run away. When did I say she had to catch them? Depending on the location, if the weapons simply land close enough to her, she can pick them up and throw them back at Mizuki. IIRC she's shown to be faster, if only slightly so.

Iruka not getting hit somewhere Vital was essentially just plot. The Shuriken-when thrown from such a range and so fast should have pierced Irukas body much further than it did, especially since his body already had taken several Kunai piercings.

Karin has no worthwhile evasive feats, shes simply not avoiding A giant Shuriken and several Kunai when even Iruka could not.Irukas speed>Karins

Mizukis shuriken was accurate, he tried hitting Naruto with it and even when Naruto moved fowards to try and avoid it , he still wouldve been hit had Iruka not protected him. His Kunai also hit Iruka, who was fast enough to jump in front of Naruto after being being pinned to the Wall with the Kunai a taking a Giant Shuriken for him.

As I said before,Karin needs offensive and evasive abilities to win this-which she doesnt have.