Hinata vs Tylee..........

[321zigzag1]

Considering this is a more of a matter of interpretation of the manga basic jutsu usage....

Anyway it doesn't matter Preskip Hinata more likely loses partially for having not as good feats.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Originally Posted by Manwe Sulimo

I'm not seeing any proof.

Prove that she doesn't know it and prove what Tylee has that can beat Hinata all you do is say prove it and yet you don't use any proof yourself

[Skylar]

Originally Posted by Manwe Sulimo

And sandbending was a different deal. Sandbending is the same power as earthbending, it's just that a different martial art form is best for the manipulation. A punch by an earthbender will move just as much sand as it will earth. I wasn't arguing that Bumi could use sand to attack, only that he could use earthbending to escape Gaara's sand, since he can pass through earth like it isn't there.

Lets just stick with this fight, shall we-I was just bringing up one detail about something u said to see if it would help u understand(however the whole Bumi being able to pass through Gaara's sand is false since Gaara uses chakra and Bumi doesn't, unless u made a thread about Gaara vs Bumi and proved that Bumi can bend chakra).......................

[Manwe Sulimo]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

Considering this is a more of a matter of interpretation of the manga basic jutsu usage....

Anyway it doesn't matter Preskip Hinata more likely loses partially for having not as good feats.

Show what you're interpreting, then. You need to have some evidence that shunshin is an academy-level technique or it's a groundless claim

Originally Posted by Cursed Uchiha

Prove that she doesn't know it and prove what Tylee has that can beat Hinata all you do is say prove it and yet you don't use any proof yourself

Still not following the advice, I see. The burden of proof is on you. Or can I assume Sasuke can use rasenshuriken, then ask you to prove he doesn't?

[Skylar]

Hinata was able to catch Deva off guard(and with the rinnegan, thats pretty hard) yeah after that Deva went easy on her, and displayed little power, but the fact remains she was able to catch Deva off guard meaning-A.She was using shunshin to get there so fast, or B.She's just that fast on her own. Because when u look at that chapter she was just suddenly there, it didn't show her running, nor did it show her using a technique to get there-we can just assume she was using something like shunshin, or just her normal speed. Which sounds more believable to u........?

And also speaking of acadamey techniques- Tylee hits Hinata, and Hinata uses substitution and then hits Tylee from her blind side..................

[Manwe Sulimo]

She jumped forward, talked a bit, rushed at Pain, then promptly got beat down. Hardly seemed like catching Pain "off guard". There's nothing that would need supernatural speed to try and fail at what she tried and failed to do.

Oh look, another technique you have no proof Hinata knows how to do.

[Trafalgar Law]

Originally Posted by Manwe Sulimo

Show what you're interpreting, then. You need to have some evidence that shunshin is an academy-level technique or it's a groundless claim



Still not following the advice, I see. The burden of proof is on you. Or can I assume Sasuke can use rasenshuriken, then ask you to prove he doesn't?

You are a parrot with no new arguments, and no ability to actually think about anything.

Chapter 10, page 5, Sasuke uses shunshin on his first C rank mission. If you're going to claim that Hinata can't use it 500 chapters later, after countless missions, I will actually laugh.

As for substitution, Naruto used it against sasuke, chapter 3. Once again, 500 chapters, three years and countless missions make it almost impossible for Hinata to not know it.

[Manwe Sulimo]

Start laughing, then. Sasuke was a prodigy, the top of his class. You can't use feats of others on a featless character with no combat prowess to speak of.

I'm not coming up with much stuff new, so to speak, because my first argument hasn't been disproved. Ty Lee has some semblance of skill and fighting ability. Hinata does not, and whenever she tries to fight she gets her ass kicked. Ty Lee wins.

[Skylar]

Originally Posted by Manwe Sulimo

She jumped forward, talked a bit, rushed at Pain, then promptly got beat down. Hardly seemed like catching Pain "off guard". There's nothing that would need supernatural speed to try and fail at what she tried and failed to do.

Oh look, another technique you have no proof Hinata knows how to do.

Then why when she jumped towards Pain did Pain jumped back away from Naruto? Dude we all know she got beat by Pain, thats not really a big thing in this fight-since Pain is a pretty high level guy, and Tylee isn't(not saying Hinata is, but still fightning wise Hinata has a better chance of winning).............

It's a basic technique, every ninja knows it. No offence, but try and stop knit picking and actually show how Tylee could win.......

How's Tylee going to win, answer me that? I'm not talking about winning in a battle of usefullness, or a battle of who has won more matches. I'm talking about beating Hinata in a real fight. Hinata has good reaction time, could block Tylee's hits(Hinata blocking gentle fists in her fight with Neji proves this) Tylee's hits don't use chakra when Neji's gentle fists did so I don't see Tylee's hits getting much in, Hinata's gentle fist uses chakra and Tylee's hits don't so in terms Hinata's move would be stronger, Hinata should have kunai's and shurikens(which hurt Tylee since she has no way to defend, just dodge but Hinata should be able to catch on to that and hit her), Hinata's byakugan allows her 360 degree vision-so there's no way Tylee's getting a sucker puch in(u know what I mean)........

Again Tylee is better suited to fightning benders and disabling their bending while Hinata's technique is good for plain out fightning(from which this fight is about)..............

[321zigzag1]

To be fair its not a stomp at all although I am still inclined Ty Lee > Preskip Hinata

The winner will be decided with some measure of difficulty.

[Skylar]

Originally Posted by Manwe Sulimo

I'm not coming up with much stuff new, so to speak, because my first argument hasn't been disproved. Ty Lee has some semblance of skill and fighting ability. Hinata does not, and whenever she tries to fight she gets her ass kicked. Ty Lee wins.

You haven't really come up with any ways for Tylee to win, u just keep pointing out how Hinata got beat. And Hinata doesn't? She uses chakra in her fightning style which makes it more powerful(try and prove it doesn't) again only when she's fightning benders, she's never fought someone who actually fights with their bare hands, when Hinata has............

[Skylar]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

To be fair its not a stomp at all although I am still inclined Ty Lee > Preskip Hinata

The winner will be decided with some measure of difficulty.

I agree on that, and the Tylee vs Preskip Hinata. Post is going to be in the battle though.......

[321zigzag1]

Post has shown no actual feats except twin lion fist which we don't know what that is. Apparently Post skip Hinata's range in byakugan did increase to like 10 kilometer range after the Itachi's fight conclusion.

Now Preskip Hinata isn't bad. She did manage to tag Neji for a while Neji wasn't going all out. The same neji who managed to react to KNO in preskip.