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But you're right I'm ignorant with respect to manga. I don't read much else. Woah I just had a Kurenai moment.
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Can he really make up for what he did to Sakura and what he made Sasuke do to Karin? |
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I'm sure Sasuke lovers would never criticize him anyway and are using Sakura's stupidity as a chance to get all negative attention away from Sasuke but believe me that's not how it is with me. I can actually complain and dislike both of them at the same time Who? Kishi? Well he doesn't need to make up for anything...he's the author he can do whatever he wants with the story. Even if it pisses some people off...and what did he do to Sakura anyway? |
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The result: She gets seriously injured from Pain. It made all of her confessing look embarrasing and lame.
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Really? I didn't think so...I thought her confession was so full of love and honesty. She truly loves Naruto and it's a very selfless love IMO. I was only disappointed that Kishi didn't take the time to show Naruto at least thanking her for trying to save him or at least address her feelings for him.
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Here's the new case I thought of: Not only is her stopping out-of-character, it's also incredibly unrealistic. When she runs down what must be at least 100 feet of bridge side, hurries along the underside of a bridge, and then drops 15 feet to the water below her, she's going to be so pumped with adrenaline, she's wouldn't able to focus on anything other than her goal, to stab Sasuke. She's not going to suddenly reminisce about old memories in the middle of that. Everyone blames Sakura for not thinking about whether she could do it beforehand, but you can't really blame her, given how ridiculous the idea is that she would suddenly rethink things in the heat of battle. If she had thought, before she jumped off the bridge, "Wait, what if I suddenly start thinking about old memories the second before I stab him, endangering me and Kakashi?", she would have immeaditely disregarded it as impossible. It's just not something that happens. You can't blame her for not thinking it would. When Naruto disobeyed Kakashi, it's becuase he knew better than him. When Sakura disobeyed Kakashi, it's becuase she knew better than him. He sent her away becuase Karin, thier source of Akatsuki information, was nearly dead, and needed immeadite care. He also knew Sakura was useless in a head-to-head fight with Sasuke. However, after she had healed Karin, she saw a genuine chance to assasinate Sasuke and help Kakashi, and she took it. The circumstances were different than what he was worried about. If she had killed Sasuke, which is what would have realistically happened (due to the ardeneline), he would have been mad she disobeyed orders, but he also would have been proud of her. Please read the entire debate between me and Wooster, as we already covered most of the things you're probably thinking of.
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Your right, he can do whatever he wants. But whatever he does it can affect his viewers. To Sakura, he made people dislike her because of what she did in the previous chapters. It's the author that makes the character do things, not the character. Last edited by Wherner; 02-28-2010 at 06:46 PM. |
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I'm shocked you're defending Sakura even when a weak Sasuke almost killed her so easily but you criticize Hinata for going up against an Akatsuki. At least Shikamaru and Hinata were loyal enough to Naruto (Shikamaru wanted to intervene and Hinata actually did)...maybe you should use the "strong current" metaphor for Sakura. No, I'm not. As someone who really dislikes Sasuke and continously criticizes his actions I wouldn't do that. I'm saying people like me are not so easily "shocked" or "surprised" by Sasuke's craziness and stupidity anymore. But we don't see Sakura failing this miserably or putting important and loved characters in danger (Kakashi and Naruto) that often. It's obvious as readers we can criticize him but that includes criticizing his characters as well just like plot etc. In this case Kishi doesn't seem to like Sakura very much...too bad so we shouldn't judge any characters in the series because they don't make the decisions on their own? that's ridiculous... Last edited by 3littlepigs; 02-28-2010 at 07:00 PM. |
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I'm not criticizing Hinata. I'm stating that Kishi made a weak choice to not at least have Hinata punch or even touch Pain before getting injured, and it seemed pointless because she couldn't even hit Pain. Naruto could have easily turned into his demon form without Hinata. I don't see why he didn't do so earlier. |
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10-20 pages is normal for a weekly manga...didn't you know that? Even if he has assistants and more money now he's only hired to draw that-less than 20 pages every week. I actually prefer that and not over 50 pages but only once a month like Fullmetal Alchemist. No, Naruto wasn't going to use the fox's chakra because unlike other enemies, Pain actually attacked him mentally and emotionally. Internally Naruto was completely messed up at that point, Pain would have taken him prisoner if it weren't because Hinata got hurt and acted as a trigger for Naruto's anger. |
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Theres about four weeks in a month. So theres been around 18 pages in a Naruto chapter recently. 4x20 = 80 pages Kishi makes roughly around in a month. The author of FMA makes only around 50 pages of FMA roughly around in a month. Only 30 pages off, but: Fullmetal Alchemist is already finished in it's anime and FMA isn't as popular as Naruto. She has created various of other mangas while working on FMA. He was already angry with Pain with almost completely destroying his village. Why didn't he go with his demon form then? During a fight with Neji, Naruto was badly injured and out of chakra and emotionally put down because of Neji saying "Your a failure" and all that other phrases Neji kept repeating. Naruto managed to turn into his demon fox during that time. Naruto actually got Hinata hurt, because he didn't even try to go into his demon form and could of brought it upon himself to become a prisoner. Hinata had to go in there and say all that stuff about loving him, only to have a embarrasing and unnessacary scene to get herself blown away and badly hurt. |
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I think we all can agree that Sakura didn't kill Sasuke, because Kishi wouldn't allow anyone other than Naruto to kill him
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Fullmetal Alchemist isn't done...neither the manga nor the Anime it's actually just getting good. Also, I merely used it as an example to say I prefer less pages more often than more pages but to have to wait longer especially when there's a good cliffhanger! You're right Fullmetal isn't Naruto but it's extremely popular. If it wasn't they wouldn't have made an anime series, a movie and years after it was done start on another Anime. See the thing is, during the fight with Neji, Naruto only needed more chakra to prove his point. All he needed was to defeat Neji anyway possible and prove to him once and for all that not everything is set in stone. Pain on the other hand didn't use the same approach as Neji or Gaara. He didn't say "you're unable to beat me so that proves you're wrong!" If it had been just that I'm sure Naruto wouldn't have hesitated to go in to tails mode. Instead Pain admitted Naruto was right just like he was and he even encouraged Naruto to tell him a better way to achieve peace if he thought he could do better...for the first time Naruto didn't actually have an answer. It wasn't a matter of strength...if he hadn't been so desperate to end his confusion and pain over Pain's words he wouldn't have tried to remove the seal completely. He was going to release it because when he asked for help in stopping that pain the Kyuubi was the only one to offer him an escape. Going into tails mode right away just to beat Pain with mere strength would have proven nothing...it wouldn't have made Naruto feel any better or satisfied like he was with Neji. It would have been an immature way of dealing with it....he actually ended up going up to 8 tails but out of desperation not to prove he was right. |
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i dnt agree at all.......its her chose in life if she wanna kill then she would but that will piss off alot of naruto fans hating if she did do it so let be nature if she does she does.. |
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No i dnt agree
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Instead, Sakura froze and ended up looking pretty pathetic.
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