Deidara vs Chiyo and Naruto (no SM)

[otacon]

bloodlusted

location: where Dei fought Sasuke (grassland with forsest)

bans: Deidara cannot us CO or C4; Naruto cannot go sage mode or summon toads

who wins?

[Sasuke726]

I think Chiyo and Naruto because Chiyo culd distract Deidara with the puppets, while Naruto hit him with a Rasengan. Horrible reason but my head hurts so a huge explanation is out of the question.

[321zigzag1]

How are they going to counter Deidara's C1? Especially C2 Dragon?

[shikamarulover18]

for 321zigzag's post: i don't think that would be much of problem if naruto could make a crapload of shadow clones. if naruto's kagebunshins and chiyo could distract deidara, naruto could take him down with a rasen-shuriken.

[321zigzag1]

Originally Posted by shikamarulover18

for 321zigzag's post: i don't think that would be much of problem if naruto could make a crapload of shadow clones. if naruto's kagebunshins and chiyo could distract deidara, naruto could take him down with a rasen-shuriken.

Problem Deidara likes to fly.

Problem Deidara likes to fly.

Naruto is going to use Rasenshuriken when SM is banned? He can but he can't throw it also it ruins his arm if he uses it himself.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

How are they going to counter Deidara's C1? Especially C2 Dragon?

Clones.Deidara can't create as many C1 as Naruto can Spam Clones.

Dragon?Not even gonna let him fly.It takes quite the Prep IIRC.

[321zigzag1]

Originally Posted by V-Valentine

Clones.Deidara can't create as many C1 as Naruto can Spam Clones.

Dragon?Not even gonna let him fly.It takes quite the Prep IIRC.

Problem he likes to fly.

Not that long Sasuke wasn't fast enough to catch him anyway.

Chiyo's 10 Puppets of Chikamatsu would prove to be a good distraction/fight for Deidara...Three Buddhist Treasures Vacuum Destruction technique could possibly counter any explosives sent at them. As for flying I think the range of a puppetmaster and their chakra strings is long enough to reach Deidara on C2 dragon. The puppets themselves technically fly.

Naruto himself would need to use Shadow Clones to throw himself at Deidara to get in range for any attack and the clones would also provide a distraction since he can spam them. If he used Rasenshuriken he would have to connect with it like a regular Rasengan since he can't use SM.

But any explosives that Deidara sends could get sucked up by her Puppets Vacuum jutsu....and since Tobi is not involved the land mines would not be in place would negates the whole purpose for C2 dragon...without those land mines he would not be able to hit anything.

[Nyruss]

Deidara's bombs and Naruto's clones are not 1/1.

Deidei drops a village buster and Naruto and Chiyo die like things that die easily, Shadow Clones or no Shadow Clones.

[321zigzag1]

Originally Posted by Jinchiruuki

Chiyo's 10 Puppets of Chikamatsu would prove to be a good distraction/fight for Deidara...Three Buddhist Treasures Vacuum Destruction technique could possibly counter any explosives sent at them. As for flying I think the range of a puppetmaster and their chakra strings is long enough to reach Deidara on C2 dragon. The puppets themselves technically fly.

Naruto himself would need to use Shadow Clones to throw himself at Deidara to get in range for any attack and the clones would also provide a distraction since he can spam them. If he used Rasenshuriken he would have to connect with it like a regular Rasengan since he can't use SM.

But any explosives that Deidara sends could get sucked up by her Puppets Vacuum jutsu....and since Tobi is not involved the land mines would not be in place would negates the whole purpose for C2 dragon...without those land mines he would not be able to hit anything.

You realize how high Deidara flies right? He can counter simply with C1 bombs. Also you realize what the vacuum treasure does, it sucks them in bad idea.

No Naruto can't throw clones or himself high enough with few he needs more.

Explosives suck in they explode. GG puppets.
So no land mines equals negation of C2? I guess C2 homing missiles have been overlooked.

Originally Posted by Dudemeister

Deidara's bombs and Naruto's clones are not 1/1.

Deidei drops a village buster and Naruto and Chiyo die like things that die easily, Shadow Clones or no Shadow Clones.

C3?

Well I didn't want to mention them yet. C2 is enough to kill them.

Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

You realize how high Deidara flies right? He can counter simply with C1 bombs. Also you realize what the vacuum treasure does, it sucks them in bad idea.

No Naruto can't throw clones or himself high enough with few he needs more.

Explosives suck in they explode. GG puppets.
So no land mines equals negation of C2? I guess C2 homing missiles have been overlooked.



C3?

Well I didn't want to mention them yet. C2 is enough to kill them.

Not overlooked but they aren't that fast but that is true about the Vacuum technique so I take that back XD

[321zigzag1]

Originally Posted by Jinchiruuki

Not overlooked but they aren't that fast but that is true about the Vacuum technique so I take that back XD

C2 Missiles were fast enough to give Sasuke trouble in its speed. Plus it is a homing type.

Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

C2 Missiles were fast enough to give Sasuke trouble in its speed. Plus it is a homing type.

Yeah but if Chiyo did the same thing she did with Sakura...attached strings to Naruto and controlled him I don't think they would be hit...the point of the homing missiles by the way is to not just hit someone but to keep the target moving across a mine field.

[otacon]

Originally Posted by Jinchiruuki

Yeah but if Chiyo did the same thing she did with Sakura...attached strings to Naruto and controlled him I don't think they would be hit...the point of the homing missiles by the way is to not just hit someone but to keep the target moving across a mine field.

that would possibly work if Dei was targeting Naruto, But whats stopping him from targeting Chiyo?

[321zigzag1]

Originally Posted by Jinchiruuki

Yeah but if Chiyo did the same thing she did with Sakura...attached strings to Naruto and controlled him I don't think they would be hit...the point of the homing missiles by the way is to not just hit someone but to keep the target moving across a mine field.

They are homing missiles they follow you.

Mine Field is just an extra danger accessory anyway if Deidara drops C3 they die.

Originally Posted by otacon

that would possibly work if Dei was targeting Naruto, But whats stopping him from targeting Chiyo?

If Sasori was surprised and didn't pick up on the human puppet technique Chiyo used on Sakura how is Deidara going to know ?

But I will say he would probably figure it out relatively quick and even then he would attack Chiyo too..I don't know what Naruto or her could counter with though so I can't really debate further.