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Old 01-30-2010, 05:08 PM   #41
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Doubt it.

It makes so much more sense for the one controlling Yagura

to be Madara or Shisui when you consider Madara was the Mizukage

and Shisui fought Ao.
Well the biggest flaw with my theory is...



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...Danzo doesn't have friends.
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:27 PM   #42
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Well the biggest flaw with my theory is...



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...Danzo doesn't have friends.

Yeah maybe that's why Danzo seems so grumpy. He just needs a hug.
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Old 01-31-2010, 10:40 AM   #43
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I think it is an unlikely course for the story to take, but it has a a few plausible aspects.


It isn't that unbelievable to think that the Foundation would have had enough strength and preperation to seize control of the Leaf village, it was Danzo's original plan for becoming Hokage afterall.

The only reason we didn't see that after the Pain fight was because Tsunade was out of comission and Danzo had the opportunity to gain the Hokage position through more passive means.

Although, I do think that he was probably counting on the other elders backing his coup d'etat... They were getting pretty vocal in their opposition to Tsunade's obvious Naruto fangirl status. (honestly, the elders were making valid points during most of those arguements) Not to mention Danzo probably had enough dirt on each of them to blackmail them into supporting him.


A couple problems have grown that make it seem less likely for Madara to exploit Danzo's preperations.

1- Danzo was banking on Pain crippling the villages defenses before he made his move. When you factor in Pain reviving everyone that died, and the time that has elapsed for people to rest and heal, the odds become less favorable for a coup.

2- With Danzo gone, the Foundation would lack a real figurehead with any credibility in the village. Judging by what we've seen, everyone else in the Foundation is a masked no-name orphan with a serious lack of social skills. You can't simply rely on force to hold an entire village of ninja's in line, they would try to fight back the first chance they had. You need somebody that can hold their willing support once the strongest opposition has been dealt with.


Sadly, with Danzo's fate looking grim, the Foundation probably won't be able to survive on its own. I'm thinking a more likely scenario for them to remain relevant at this point would be the Foundation members being exiled and forced to work as mercenaries.
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I think it is an unlikely course for the story to take, but it has a a few plausible aspects.


It isn't that unbelievable to think that the Foundation would have had enough strength and preperation to seize control of the Leaf village, it was Danzo's original plan for becoming Hokage afterall.

The only reason we didn't see that after the Pain fight was because Tsunade was out of comission and Danzo had the opportunity to gain the Hokage position through more passive means.

Although, I do think that he was probably counting on the other elders backing his coup d'etat... They were getting pretty vocal in their opposition to Tsunade's obvious Naruto fangirl status. (honestly, the elders were making valid points during most of those arguements) Not to mention Danzo probably had enough dirt on each of them to blackmail them into supporting him.


A couple problems have grown that make it seem less likely for Madara to exploit Danzo's preperations.

1- Danzo was banking on Pain crippling the villages defenses before he made his move. When you factor in Pain reviving everyone that died, and the time that has elapsed for people to rest and heal, the odds become less favorable for a coup.

2- With Danzo gone, the Foundation would lack a real figurehead with any credibility in the village. Judging by what we've seen, everyone else in the Foundation is a masked no-name orphan with a serious lack of social skills. You can't simply rely on force to hold an entire village of ninja's in line, they would try to fight back the first chance they had. You need somebody that can hold their willing support once the strongest opposition has been dealt with.


Sadly, with Danzo's fate looking grim, the Foundation probably won't be able to survive on its own. I'm thinking a more likely scenario for them to remain relevant at this point would be the Foundation members being exiled and forced to work as mercenaries.
I can understand why that would be a problem for Danzo...

but what about Madara?
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Err... it would be a problem because nobody in the leaf village would just bow down and obey some random flunky puppet that Madara sent there. That includes Sasuke, since most of the village except Naruto already wants to have him dealt with.

Even if you factor in the potential for mind control it would require to many people to be under its influence for taking over an entire village of highly trained ninjas. At that rate you might as well just be mind controlling everyone.

The reason it worked for Madara and the Mist village was because he was controlling the established leader of that village. People had already pledged their support to the Mizukage and were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt even if they suspected something was going on behind the scenes. The Leaf village is in a state of transition with its leadership so there isn't an established power base for Madara to exploit.

Madara just doesn't have many viable options for making it work right now. This idea suffers more for a lack of poor timing than anything else.
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Err... it would be a problem because nobody in the leaf village would just bow down and obey some random flunky puppet that Madara sent there. That includes Sasuke, since most of the village except Naruto already wants to have him dealt with.

Even if you factor in the potential for mind control it would require to many people to be under its influence for taking over an entire village of highly trained ninjas. At that rate you might as well just be mind controlling everyone.

The reason it worked for Madara and the Mist village was because he was controlling the established leader of that village. People had already pledged their support to the Mizukage and were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt even if they suspected something was going on behind the scenes. The Leaf village is in a state of transition with its leadership so there isn't an established power base for Madara to exploit.

Madara just doesn't have many viable options for making it work right now. This idea suffers more for a lack of poor timing than anything else.
I'm suggesting Madara will take over Konoha by force.
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Old 01-31-2010, 03:00 PM   #47
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for some reason i get the feeling like something like this will happen
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for some reason i get the feeling like something like this will happen

If it does then this is a virtual guarantee for a part 3 since such a event
would be so huge it would require a brand new series.
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