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View Poll Results: What's your opinion on Sakura?
She's stupid and selfish! She should die fighting Sasuke! 18 27.69%
This chapter made me like her character again. 26 40.00%
This new chapter has bumped her up to one of my favorite characters! 21 32.31%
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:14 PM   #21
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i totally agree with you...and i also think this was the best chapter in a long while..
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Okay, I finished up reading Chapter 474 a half hour ago, and I was really impressed. In fact, this has been one of the greatest chapters in a long while. Most important of all, however, is that Sakura has finally been made unflaky again. Sakura's character was flaky and useless throughout most of Part 1. Only at the very end did she start to get the level of determination seen from Sasuke and Naruto regularily. Then, for a brief period of 32 chapters, at the start of Part 2, she was actually a force to be reckoned with. She caused earthquakes with her fists, beat Akatsuki members (with help), and was one of the strongest characters in the series. Then after that, she stopped having fights in the series. While everyone else was getting insane powerups and new characters with even more insane abilities popped up, she stayed at the same level. Her once-strong powers were left behind. In recent chapters, espiecally, she was really annoying, and couldn't seem to stop crying. This last chapter, however, has validated her as a character again. Her actions in the recent chapters were explained, and now they actually make sense. We get why she's decided to kill Sasuke.

However, when I got to the forums, the avarage response to Sakura's actions was, "Sakura's stupid and weak! Why is she trying to kill Sasuke when she's so weak, and he's not?!?!?! And she's being mean to Naruto and lying to him!! She should stay home while the real ninjas take care of things! I hope she dies fighting Sasuke!!!" To all the people like that, here's what I have to say:

First of all, who says she's a weak Chunin-level? She hasn't fought in 199 chapters! Since the end of the Sasori fight, she has not fought once. (Well, except for punching a giant centipede while screaming, "HELL, YEAH!" in chapter 421. But that really doesn't count.) Does it not occur to anyone that she has probably been training a lot during that time? When a character in a manga hasn't fought in a while, they tend to have some new abilities! Remember Kiba and Akamaru's power in Part 1? Over 100 chapters passed between the end of his fight against Naruto and when he started fighting in the Sasuke Retriaval Arc. During that time, he didn't fight once, and only one thing of "training" was shown. (All it was was two pages where Akamaru practiced his "pee-on-people" technique.) Yet, somehow, when they started fighting in the S.R. Arc, they had a whole slew of new jutsu, and were far stronger. Who's to say Sakura hasn't gotten way stronger, as well? (I'm betting she's at least able to summon Katsuya by now.) I don't think Kishi will make her strong enough to beat Sasuke, but he will definitely add some new powers, so that it isn't a totally one-sided fight.
So do all you people reading this agree with me? Or if you disagree, please give some actual reasons.
I actually agree with you for the most part. Sakura isn't even one of my favorite characters and I'll be the 1st to admit that when she "confessed" her love to Naruto I was extremely pissed off at her for being so disrespectful after everything Naruto has done for her. However this last chapter made me admire her...not because she actually thinks she has a chance against Sasuke (because we all know she doesn't), but because she loves him so much she rather kill him then see him continue down this path. And that she finally thinks of Naruto's feelings and so would rather go look for Sasuke without telling him about it.

It's funny becaue I've been arguing with some other people on another Naruto site for the same reason ...I'm just going to say to the people that critize her decision of not telling Naruto: Didn't Naruto do the exact same thing when he asked the Cloud ninjas to take him to Raikage? or when he left Konoha with Kakashi and Yamato to beg for Sasuke's life? and yeah wasn't he trying to use Sage Mode to find Sasuke on his own? In not one of those occasions did he tell Sakura even though they BOTH agreed they would BOTH look for Sasuke and bring him back. Naruto didn't bother Sakura because he cares about her, he loves her and so if he can help it he's gonna try to make sure she's not hurt. Sakura is finally thinking like that so I don't see why her not telling Naruto about the decision to kill Sasuke is a bad or stupid decision...to me it makes sense.
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See, here is where I'm in the middle.

A person can be both smart and stupid at the same time (I am a very good example of this). See, Sakura has book smarts, deffinitely. However, she greatly lacks in street smarts. She can be very selfish, but in this case, it's really not as selfish as people are trying to make it out to be.

You make an excelent point about her improving. If she doesn't have any new skills, Kishi isn't just going to just let her run in and die. He's going to make the fight at least a little interesting.

Honestly, my only issues with Sakura are with her personality, but it's the same way I feel about many females in shounen manga. Since shounen manga is aimed for males, hence the "shounen", the female characters tend to be very antifeminist. Sakura is stronger than a lot of female characters in shounen manga, but she's still extremely annoying and antifeminist.

I tend to prefer characters like Konan, Tsunade, and Temari because: 1) They are less selfish and annoying, 2) They are really powerful and strong, so 3) They don't need men protecting them. They can fight on their own. Basically, those three demonstrate the feminist qualities I can stand behind, whereas Sakura can't. At least not yet. But she's a teenager; she's still developing, as you said.
At the beginning of Part 2, Sakura was like that, as well, but then they mede her flaky again... T_T...
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Perhaps if she had Shikamaru's intelligence then she wouldn't have to waste all those weapons.

Unless I'm mistaken the only character she beat was herself. :/
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You made perfect sense with what you said(or should i say posted)Sakura was my 4th favorite,but now she's my 3rd because of that.Thanks

Oh and i'm giving you good rep for making sense and knowing the manga so well.Good job
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I dont lik sakura much
but yay she is strong
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Even if Sakura has been training don't you think Sasuke has been training too?
Also Sasuke is an Uchiha. He's a genius. He's Kishimoto's favorite character.
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Sakura needs to stop thinking about love
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What amuses AND annoys me is how everyone is all "Dude, Sakura stands no chance!" or "She better have a new jutsu if she expects to live longer than two seconds!"

Dude. Has everyone forgotten that she could splatter Sasuke's brain all over the sidewalk with one hit? Sure, he's generally stronger than her, but that doesn't mean she's weak.
well i think it's optimistic to assume that sakura would be able to get close enough to hit sasuke.. and the reason i called her weak is because i judge her in relation to the other characters she's fighting against. if she was fighting against ten ten, then i would say she'd stomp. but since she's going against sasuke, i think she's royally screwed and weak in comparison to him. and i don't think sakura's newfound desire to do something is as righteous as you all wish it is. i think she should leave sai, kiba, lee, and shino out of it. why should they die because of her emotional attachment to sasuke? i think she needs to calm down, take a step back, and re-assess the situation to where she would have a better chance of living than what she's currently doing--which is acting like a vigilante and taking things into her own hands.
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Thank you C4 Karura!!!! Finally someone with SENSE! I thought I was alone... *thumbs up* I'm loving you right now!
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Finally! Someone with a brain has spoken about the situation! I thought I was the only one who understood what she was doing! Rep up!
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Perhaps if she had Shikamaru's intelligence then she wouldn't have to waste all those weapons.

Unless I'm mistaken the only character she beat was herself. :/

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meh Sakura has improved to a decent character with some legitimate skills. I do give her credit for getting Orochimaru's location out of Sasori, which lead to Naruto and gang actually finding Sasuke. But otherwise, she hasn't really done anything important since then. Until she shows more feats, what can anyone say about her except what she appears to be. Most characters eventually revert to their old attitudes. I think that's happened a lot with Sakura. She is capable now, but still has done very little.
Whereas Sasuke went and killed orochimaru, fought off deidara, started a whole new team, and accomplished his greatest desire—to kill his brother. Sasuke's accomplished his goals.

Naruto has learned a whole new Jutsu, defeated Kakuza with it, learned Sage Mode, and defeated Pain, "leader" of Akatsuki.

Sakura beat Sasori and found out info on orochimaru.
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hmmm, ppl need to give every character, not only sakura, some credit they r all good, but sakura is better in my eyes now
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unless sakura has a good new jutsu i dont think she has a chance because

1)with his sharingan and superior speed sakura has no chance of hitting him
2) he survived the raikage's hits no way sakura can hit harder then him
3)sasuke's got susano'o sakura can't do anything to that
4)if he uses amaterasu as a shield like in the kage fight sakura has no way to counter
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We can't say that she stands no chance against Sauske because she is not alone. She has Lee, Kiba, and Sai. I believe that Sakura is going to get hurt emotionaly and phyical in this fight because for some reason I believe that Sauske is going to have to save Karin or let her die and when he do save her Sakura is going to get really mad.
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i wasd going to comment... but i didn't finish reading... it was too dam long for me to keep interested..

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How could you find this chapter boring. this was one of the best chapter in a long while.
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well i think it's optimistic to assume that sakura would be able to get close enough to hit sasuke.. and the reason i called her weak is because i judge her in relation to the other characters she's fighting against. if she was fighting against ten ten, then i would say she'd stomp. but since she's going against sasuke, i think she's royally screwed and weak in comparison to him. and i don't think sakura's newfound desire to do something is as righteous as you all wish it is. i think she should leave sai, kiba, lee, and shino out of it. why should they die because of her emotional attachment to sasuke? i think she needs to calm down, take a step back, and re-assess the situation to where she would have a better chance of living than what she's currently doing--which is acting like a vigilante and taking things into her own hands.
Saying she's gonna get Sai, Kiba, and Lee killed really isn't a fair argument; if they weren't helping her, they'd be going after Sasuke with Shikamaru instead. Saying Sakura's being rash and not thinking about them is, subsequently, saying that Shikamaru is rash and not thinking and gonna get HIS group killed.
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