Bartholomew Kuma vs Narutoverse

[Nyruss]

dude no way kuma is beating ALL of the narutoverse ALL AT ONCE

He doesn't need to do it all at once. He'll take out a few at a time, that works just as well. :P

[Fan of Minato]

Originally Posted by Dudemeister

No one said he would.



Except that there is.

Push what he can, dodge what he can't.

360 degree attacks, from all around coming in conjunction to another. Imagine being trapped in a square that is not escapable as there are attacks everywhere.

Kuma has two hands, Two directions at most, unless he can make bubbles from his nose. 0_o. xDDDDD
(I'm not sure on this one but does making that bubble thing take two or three seconds of prep?)

And if he can't defeat them all in one second, then while the others fight him Kakashi will Kamui his head off or Itachi will seal him in the sword.

And how about Madara? If he warps him/ transports him somewhere then Madara can come back. Madara can warp at will....so that can be a problem for Kuma.

And has he shown any ability to tank a 8-tailed menacing ball?

(also do note that the attacks will come wave after wave, Kuma will be on defensive for most part and he can't hold off for that long when being overwhelmed by immense numbers.)

EDIT: Don't take the Kakashi Kamui thing literally that was an example. Itachi can seal him, Sasuke can use Blaze release, Kisame can use his water attack. I can keep going with examples. xD

[ByakuganAlex]

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6. Mizukage can melt kuma
That before or after Kuma pushes her into the nearest brick wall?



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7.kakashi can teleport his head
That before or after Kuma pushes him into the nearest brick wall?


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8. there is no way he can attack all of them giving need characters preptime.
That's fine, it's not like any of them are capable of hurting him, even with prep.

No, and either way, I don't recall saying he would so I can only assume you're trying to set up a Straw Man, attributing claims to me that I never made.

your basically are saying that dude.

[ByakuganAlex]

Originally Posted by Dudemeister

He doesn't need to do it all at once. He'll take out a few at a time, that works just as well. :P

and how do you think he is going to do that lol
are the ninjas going to form lines for kuma to kill them LMAO

[Miles Edgeworth]

I like how the people who say Kuma are the intelligent ones and the one guy who says Narutoverse stomps without a doubt is a known tard.

Sasuke moves at supersonic; amaterasu hit
amaterasu = hypersonic
itachi susano release is high-hypersonic
susano seals person forever
raikage dodged amaterasu. he is high supersonic
his brother is just as fast
sasuke could alson use kirin which goes well at the speed of lightning.
so no their are naruto moves that are hypersonic

This is where you failed.

Prove Amaterasu is hypersonic, Raikage's supersonic and it failed to hit him. Yeah, great logic there.

Where the flip are you getting this crap, Itachi has no speed feats within Susanoo, what, do you think that getting a barrier around him suddenly gives him speed boosts hundreds of mach levels up?

Yeah, Susanoo seals the person if it hits them. It's best feat was hitting Orochimaru, who is supposed to be sonic, but has no speed feats when using Hydra. Yeah, that's totally gonna hit Kuma, who could easily kill Itachi before he thinks of Susanoo.

You just contradicted yourself, you say Raikage is high supersonic but Amaterasu was hypersonic? And Raikage DODGED it! Yeah, great logic there.

The only Naruto move that is supposedly above hypersonic is Kirin, and you like to dance around the point that it takes so much prep. What, do you think Kuma's gonna sit on his butt and listen to Sasuke rant about Kirin mid-fight?

[Nyruss]

360 degree attacks, from all around coming in conjunction to another. Imagine being trapped in a square that is not escapable as there are attacks everywhere.

There's a handful of people in Naruto capable of hurting him. You think a measly *random element* fire jutsu from some nameless fodder is going to hurt a guy that can tank Sanji's Diable Jambe?

(I'm not sure on this one but does making that bubble thing take two or three seconds of prep?)

If you are refering to Usus Shock, then yes I believe it does. Not that it matters.

And if he can't defeat them all in one second,

Where are you getting the idea that Kuma could beat them in one second? Stop wanking(little jokey joke for you ).

Kakashi will Kamui his head off

Before or after Kuma kills him?

Itachi will seal him in the sword.

Before or after Kuma kills him?

And how about Madara?

If Kuma gets to him before he can react, dead Madara, if not just wait till Madara reappears and tries an unsuccessful attack and then BAM! Dead Madara.

And has he shown any ability to tank a 8-tailed menacing ball?

He can't very well tank an attack that doesn't exist and wouldn't be used if it did.

and how do you think he is going to do that lol

Like this
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Kuma: Hey look a ninja! *kills* That's one down./ Hey look another ninja! *kills* There's another one down

[Vivi]

Has been debated before.

Kuma wins.

Teleports behind them+Ursa Bomb.

Goodbye Narutoverse.

If not even Staw Hats could beat him then Narutoverse can't.

Besides he's shown to be able to transfer Pain from one person to another.Even if he sees anyone doing something suspicious pain transfer to them and they're stopped.

[Fan of Minato]

Originally Posted by Dudemeister

There's a handful of people in Naruto capable of hurting him. You think a measly *random element* fire jutsu from some nameless fodder is going to hurt a guy that can tank Sanji's Diable Jambe?



If you are refering to Usus Shock, then yes I believe it does. Not that it matters.



Where are you getting the idea that Kuma could beat them in one second? Stop wanking(little jokey joke for you ).

Before or after Kuma kills him?

Before or after Kuma kills him?



If Kuma gets to him before he can react, dead Madara, if not just wait till Madara reappears and tries an unsuccessful attack and then BAM! Dead Madara.



He can't very well tank an attack that doesn't exist and wouldn't be used if it did.

How about 100+ attacks in conjunction at a minimum? And most of them A-level or S-Level attacks.

Thats what I was trying to explain. Would Kakashi stand in front of Kuma and use Kamui? xD Of course he wouldn't hide in plain sight, and when overwhelmed by lots of other Ninjas, how can Kuma somehow know that Kakashi will attack and kill him?

Same with Itachi, how can Kuma attack Itachi when being on the Defensive due to being overwhelmed?

Hachibi's attack, bad wording. >_> xDDDD

[Nyruss]

How about 100+ attacks in conjunction at a minimum? And most of them A-level or S-Level attacks

100 times 0 is still 0.

Would Kakashi stand in front of Kuma and use Kamui? xD Of course he wouldn't hide in plain sight, and when overwhelmed by lots of other Ninjas, how can Kuma somehow know that Kakashi will attack and kill him?

Question is, why would Kakashi immediately resort ot using Kamui when he's more likely to try something like Raikiri. Which he tries to use, and is then killed for his efforts. :P

Either way, Kuma is much too fast for Kakashi to hit with Kamui. :P

Same with Itachi, how can Kuma attack Itachi when being on the Defensive due to being overwhelmed?

Kuma sez: Guy with giant ethereal sword or nameless fodder that can't scratch me. Gee, I wonder who I should pay attention to,

[ByakuganAlex]

Originally Posted by rocklee_112713

I like how the people who say Kuma are the intelligent ones and the one guy who says Narutoverse stomps without a doubt is a known tard.



This is where you failed.

Prove Amaterasu is hypersonic, Raikage's supersonic and it failed to hit him. Yeah, great logic there.

Where the flip are you getting this crap, Itachi has no speed feats within Susanoo, what, do you think that getting a barrier around him suddenly gives him speed boosts hundreds of mach levels up?

Yeah, Susanoo seals the person if it hits them. It's best feat was hitting Orochimaru, who is supposed to be sonic, but has no speed feats when using Hydra. Yeah, that's totally gonna hit Kuma, who could easily kill Itachi before he thinks of Susanoo.

You just contradicted yourself, you say Raikage is high supersonic but Amaterasu was hypersonic? And Raikage DODGED it! Yeah, great logic there.

The only Naruto move that is supposedly above hypersonic is Kirin, and you like to dance around the point that it takes so much prep. What, do you think Kuma's gonna sit on his butt and listen to Sasuke rant about Kirin mid-fight?

i did contradict myself BUT that was an earlier post.

itachi got up susanoo before kirin thats a speed feat.

you kind of said the same thing twice

lol how is kuma going to focus in on sasuke or kakashi or madara or itachi if he is surrounded by all those other ninja like naruto, jiraiya, boss summons, orochimaru, sasori, hidan, dieidara, kisame, pein, kakuzu, zabuza, raikage, killer bee, jugo, suigetsu, 1-5 hokage, and all the other tailed beats.

if i made any spelling errors then my bad lol.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Fan of Minato

How about 100+ attacks in conjunction at a minimum? And most of them A-level or S-Level attacks.

Thats what I was trying to explain. Would Kakashi stand in front of Kuma and use Kamui? xD Of course he wouldn't hide in plain sight, and when overwhelmed by lots of other Ninjas, how can Kuma somehow know that Kakashi will attack and kill him?

Same with Itachi, how can Kuma attack Itachi when being on the Defensive due to being overwhelmed?

Hachibi's attack, bad wording. >_> xDDDD

He wiped out the straw hats.
So Sanji,Zoro and Luffy.
Numbers don't mean crap if they havent got the speed.
SH I mentioned are easily hypersonic.
If he can so easily take them out then big numbers arent even a problem.

[Nyruss]

itachi got up susanoo before kirin thats a speed feat.

He got Susanoo up before Sasuke fired Kirin. That's not a speed feat.

jiraiya, boss summons, orochimaru, sasori, hidan, dieidara, kakuzu, zabuza, jugo, suigetsu, 1-5 hokage

All fodder.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

I say Kuma wins with some degree of difficulty.

His BFR/Repel Technique sends opponents flying. For THREE DAYS STRAIGHT. And that's just when he does it CASUALLY. He sends his opponents flying to the other side of the ocean, or even to the next one, depending or where they are, with just his casual doing-so. So, he could just touch anyone who comes at him and immediately pull them out of battle. Also, Ursus Shock is highly dangerous, as the explosion had covered the entire island/ship of Thriller Bark, as well as a portion of the ocean around it. Sasuke's only chance is Kirin, but that requires prep time, a LOT. Naruto could just use Rasen-Shuriken, he'd send it back. Kuma can repel any attacks, from air itself to the attacker. Kamui could work, but Kuma would need to be completely occupied and not notice it AT ALL for it to work. Any other ninjutsu or taijutsu won't work, since Kuma would just repel it. Barely anyone uses Genjutsu, and if someone does, it'll take prep time, and Kuma likely won't be standing there waiting. However, against the real Kuma, since he is a Devil Fruit User, him being in submerged in water could defeat him. The cyborg/robot/clone one doesn't have that weakness though.

[ByakuganAlex]

Originally Posted by Dudemeister

100 times 0 is still 0.



Question is, why would Kakashi immediately resort ot using Kamui when he's more likely to try something like Raikiri. Which he tries to use, and is then killed for his efforts. :P

Either way, Kuma is much too fast for Kakashi to hit with Kamui. :P




Kuma sez: Guy with giant ethereal sword or nameless fodder that can't scratch me. Gee, I wonder who I should pay attention to,

dude your such a fanboy that im cracking up laughing.

dude kakashi is smart he wouldn't rush in like a retard unless he say an opening.

oh and i totally forgot people like gai and lee. haishi and neji would be defensive blockers.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by ByakuganAlex

i did contradict myself BUT that was an earlier post.

itachi got up susanoo before kirin thats a speed feat.

you kind of said the same thing twice

lol how is kuma going to focus in on sasuke or kakashi or madara or itachi if he is surrounded by all those other ninja like naruto, jiraiya, boss summons, orochimaru, sasori, hidan, dieidara, kisame, pein, kakuzu, zabuza, raikage, killer bee, jugo, suigetsu, 1-5 hokage, and all the other tailed beats.

if i made any spelling errors then my bad lol.

And you know that he can react to lightning.....how? He could've easily put Susanoo up before Sasuke used Kirin, Sasuke was ranting for like a whole chapter about Kirin while Zetsu talked about it, I probably could've put up a Susanoo if I was Itachi.

OMG all those people who are slower and weaker than Kuma would totally stomp him! :-o Yeah, none of those people can do crap. They can't hit him and they most certainly can't tank his attacks. Just about all of those people get raped due to inferior speed, and how do you suppose that Kuma gets killed by them? By Kirin that takes so much prep and still isn't strong enough to kill Kuma? =/

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Originally Posted by V-Valentine

He wiped out the straw hats.
So Sanji,Zoro and Luffy.
Numbers don't mean crap if they havent got the speed.
SH I mentioned are easily hypersonic.
If he can so easily take them out then big numbers arent even a problem.

To be more exact, he defeated Luffy, Sanji, Zoro, Monster Form Chopper, Brook, Robin, and Nami, while doing so casually.
He had been the first person in One Piece History to land the Straw Hats a complete defeat, and that's something.

[Fan of Minato]

Originally Posted by V-Valentine

He wiped out the straw hats.
So Sanji,Zoro and Luffy.
Numbers don't mean crap if they havent got the speed.
SH I mentioned are easily hypersonic.
If he can so easily take them out then big numbers arent even a problem.

Actually numbers do mean something when your being overwhelmed by a lot of people, and potential planet busters. xD

@Dude: If the whole Narutoverse is attacking Kuma, I'm pretty sure that Kakashi would want to finish the battle faster especially when they are fighting a tough opponent as Kuma, as the whole Narutoverse is fighting and a whole verse wouldn't fight a fodder, or so Kakashi would think.

[ByakuganAlex]

Originally Posted by V-Valentine

He wiped out the straw hats.
So Sanji,Zoro and Luffy.
Numbers don't mean crap if they havent got the speed.
SH I mentioned are easily hypersonic.
If he can so easily take them out then big numbers arent even a problem.

you seem to forget that all of them were extremely tired at the time.

also 3 does not equal a millions of ninjas

another good support would be gaara.

[Nyruss]

dude your such a fanboy that im cracking up laughing.

You wanna know the best part? You think I'm a fanboy when you're the one who thinks that Kuma could possibly lose. Now THAT'S funny.

oh and i totally forgot people like gai and lee. haishi and neji would be defensive blockers.

All fodder.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by ByakuganAlex

dude your such a fanboy that im cracking up laughing.

dude kakashi is smart he wouldn't rush in like a retard unless he say an opening.

oh and i totally forgot people like gai and lee. haishi and neji would be defensive blockers.

We can say the same about you, you wank the characters you like in just about all of your posts, that or you're completely uninformed about who's strong and who isn't.

So now Kakashi is gonna think of a strategy to kill Kuma, who is much faster than him and can kill him before that happens? Yeah, apparently Kakashi can make a great strategy when his body just got turned to a pile of blood.

What the crap are Guy and Lee gonna do, they're not even faster than Kuma and they rely on close range, Ursus Shock sends them flying. Hiashi and Neji would not defeat Kuma, Neji couldn't dodge an arrow from Kidomaru which is definitely slower than Kuma and has no better feats since then. Also, how is Gentle Fist gonna kill a cyborg who's faster and stronger than them? =/