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Old 11-27-2009, 01:54 PM   #41
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Jiraiya has a limit. Thats why he lost against Pain.
SM gives the user high chakra for only some time. After SM runs out then the user is left exhausted.

@Dudemeister: Care to answer my questions?
What proof is there that Oro will not betray his comrades? What proof is there that Jiraiya will go SM? What proof is there that Tsunade won't run away?
When did Jiraiya ever run out of chakra in the fight, oh wait he didn't.
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If he absorb to many attacks from SM Jiraiya then he would be kill because he can handly that much Sage chakra, proof Jiraiya would try to go SM what did he do facing pain he with SM thats proof, As for Orochimaru betray them thats not apart of the thread it says the sannin vs. pain thats all on them on the same side.
Nope won't happen. Sorry but the jutsus are not raw chakra. If Preta absorbs Raw chakra then he will turn into stone. Jiraiya doesn't have perfect SM though.

Well I can use the same logic and say that Pain will use Chou Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei since its a battle can't I?
EDIT: Naruto with a perfect SM, means Naruto's SM is technically stronger than Jiraiya's. (not the techs. Just speaking of SM) ran out when he used two FRS's.
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Nope won't happen. Sorry but the jutsus are not raw chakra. If Preta absorbs Raw chakra then he will turn into stone. Jiraiya doesn't have perfect SM though.

Well I can use the same logic and say that Pain will use Chou Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei since its a battle can't I?
EDIT: Naruto with a perfect SM, means Naruto's SM is technically stronger than Jiraiya's. (not the techs. Just speaking of SM) ran out when he used two FRS's.
Naruto can't fuse with the elder toads so they can gather the chakra needed to stay in SM So you reading the manga or looking at the pics.

when that path uses that jutsu he jumps in the air and it leave the other paths without chakra meaning there defeated that fast, the boss summons can use attack the path in the air never giving him time to use the jutsu.
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Naruto can't fuse with the elder toads so they can gather the chakra needed to stay in SM So you reading the manga or looking at the pics.
Sage Mode combines the natural energy and regular chakra. Therefore, if Jiraiya runs out of chakra he can't use Sage Mode anymore, correct?

Plus, he's saying Jiraiya's SM isn't perfected; he can't properly balance the two chakra.
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Naruto can't fuse with the elder toads so they can gather the chakra needed to stay in SM So you reading the manga or looking at the pics.
Manga is pictures with words. =/ xDDD /kidding.

Nope....
It was mentioned that SM provides the user with high chakra, but not infinite chakra.
It said that SM leaves the user completely exhausted after SM "runs out" I wonder what that means. "runs out".
It means that they can't hold the natural energy in them forever. So it would go away sometime and take their left over energy with it.

@Dudemeister: What proof is there that Pain won't use Chibaku or CST?
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What you said didn't make any sense at all, If Naruto can't fuse with the elder toads how can they gather Chakra for him? He isn't reading the manga, he is already up to date.
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I imagine it's merely a sentence structure error. He's saying that they could gather chakra for Naruto if he could fuse with them, but he can't so they can't/.
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I imagine it's merely a sentence structure error. He's saying that they could gather chakra for Naruto if he could fuse with them, but he can't so they can't/.
Reverse that question. And answer it. xD

Even if they are attached to Jiraiya does that mean that Jiraiya's SM is stronger than a Perfect SM. Even though Jiraiya's is called "Imperfect"? xD
Unless the meanings are switched around I don't think so.

The toads can't keep on gathering energy for Jiraiya.
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What you said didn't make any sense at all, If Naruto can't fuse with the elder toads how can they gather Chakra for him? He isn't reading the manga, he is already up to date.
That what I said Naruto can't fuse so the elder toads can't gather the chakra needed to stay in SM, but Jiraiya never ran out of sage chakra and he never lift SM because the elder toads was gathering the needed chakra for him to stay in SM.

Naruto ran out of Sage chakra after two attack that don't uses as much chakra as the attacks Jiraiya used and he never ran out of sage chakra that is proof as long as the elder toads are fused with you you never run out of sage chakra because why there gathering it while your fighting.
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That what I said Naruto can't fuse so the elder toads can't gather the chakra needed to stay in SM, but Jiraiya never ran out of sage chakra and he never lift SM because the elder toads was gathering the needed chakra for him to stay in SM.

Naruto ran out of Sage chakra after two attack that don't uses as much chakra as the attacks Jiraiya used and he never ran out of sage chakra that is proof as long as the elder toads are fused with you you never run out of sage chakra because why there gathering it while your fighting.
You do realize that Sage chakra can't be kept "gathering" right? xD
The Toads can't keep on gathering Sage chakra. Even if they do Jiraiya will have to fight by himself. As the Toads can't help Jiraiya if they gather energy. So he'l have more jutsus and all but all of the combo jutsus and the Toad's jutsus become unusable.
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Reverse that question. And answer it. xD

Even if they are attached to Jiraiya does that mean that Jiraiya's SM is stronger than a Perfect SM. Even though Jiraiya's is called "Imperfect"? xD
Unless the meanings are switched around I don't think so.

The toads can't keep on gathering energy for Jiraiya.
I never said Jiraiya's SM was stronger then Naruto's SM, but you have no proof that one is stronger then the other.
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I never said Jiraiya's SM was stronger then Naruto's SM, but you have no proof that one is stronger then the other.
Actually I do.
The Toad Sages said that Jiraiya's SM was imperfect as he turned into somewhat of a toad. xD
And that Naruto's was perfect as his eyes became like a toad but his body didn't change.
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You do realize that Sage chakra can't be kept "gathering" right? xD
The Toads can't keep on gathering Sage chakra. Even if they do Jiraiya will have to fight by himself. As the Toads can't help Jiraiya if they gather energy. So he'l have more jutsus and all but all of the combo jutsus and the Toad's jutsus become unusable.
Where is it stated that the toads can't keep gathering sage chakra, I believe that is why they created the fuses move.
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Actually I do.
The Toad Sages said that Jiraiya's SM was imperfect as he turned into somewhat of a toad. xD
And that Naruto's was perfect as his eyes became like a toad but his body didn't change.
How is that proof that one is stronger then the other.

All that shows is imperfect makes you look like more of a toad then perfect does.
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yeah the six path of pain.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:27 AM   #59
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How is that proof that one is stronger then the other.

All that shows is imperfect makes you look like more of a toad then perfect does.
Its common manga knowledge
Pa Toas stated that Naruto's SM is the true mark of a sage.
Naruto's SM is superior since Naruto was able to master it perfectly.

Jiraiya's SM is in imperfect since he still takes on the few toad like qualities.

Perfect form > Imperfect form thats how often power tier goes.

For example Naruto's Sage Mode had chakra sensing and natural energy aura.
SM Jiraiya wasn't stated to possess such.
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