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Old 09-20-2010, 02:26 PM   #841
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Madara isn't on the list because he has few, if any, useful feats.

I can see the future, so I know you'll try to say Blah blah MINATO IZ TEH GAWD blah blah, but Minato's got even fewer useful feats than Madara does. His only claim to power is through hype so his brief fight with Madara does nothing to tip the scales in either direction.

The suggestion that Madara's above Sage Mode Naruto is utterly laughable.
I dont like him, but what about his space teleportation, and new Izangi that escaped Konan's 6billion paper bombs, that probubly no one else could escape.

I don't even like Minato so, no.

I never said he was above SM Naruto, i just was wondering if eh was on here.
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Old 09-20-2010, 02:37 PM   #842
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Those only help to prolong his life and they are temporary solutions at best. He needs offensive abilities to win.
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:14 PM   #843
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Actually all Madara needs to do is die with Izanagi active then BFR SM Naruto right behind him.

It is Izanagi that makes it possible.

Works for almost anyone minus Pain and Minato.

Unless you want to argue SM Jiraiya will use Reverse Summoning or something.
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:21 PM   #844
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If Madara tried to BFR Naruto he'd get a Rasengan in the face.
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:37 PM   #845
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One some unknown chance that happens.

Then he dies and does it again. Madara reappears like instantly like teleportation.

Mind you I am going by no knowledge scenario.

If Naruto had full knowledge then it will be different.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:27 PM   #846
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Then he dies and does it again. Madara reappears like instantly like teleportation
And gets Rasenganed in the face again. And again and again till he runs out of Izanagi.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:29 PM   #847
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And what reason can SM Naruto suddenly notice him if Madara reappears right behind him like instantly and then BFR all at once?

He can use both at the same time.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:33 PM   #848
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He uses his vastly superior speed to react. Madara's BFR isn't instant. It's slow enough for fodder like that Aburame guy to get him.
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Madara was jobbing in that Shino fight it was obvious.

It isn't instant but once he sucks you in it is over unless you are Minato or Pain with Animal Path within distance.

So once he starts sucking SM Naruto then its over. He easily reacts to Raikage.

Once SM Naruto arm is out of Madara's body, Madara BFRs and SM Naruto can't resist it the suckage.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:44 PM   #850
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Not Shino, the fodder dude that Danzo was with.

He tries to suck you in, you shank him. He can either let himself die or stop sucking and use Izanagi. Try again, he gets shanked again. Same choice. Try again and again and again. Eventually Madara runs out of Izanagi and dies from shanking.

And he never reacted to the Raikage. People keep trying to claim that but they're wrong.

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Old 09-20-2010, 05:48 PM   #851
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Not Shino, the fodder dude that Danzo was with.

He tries to suck you in, you shank him. He can either let himself die or stop sucking and use Izanagi. Try again, he gets shanked again. Same choice. Try again and again and again. Eventually Madara runs out of Izanagi and dies from shanking.

And he never reacted to the Raikage. People keep trying to claim that but they're wrong.
Madara was jobbing in that fight too. He was never serious.

Once he tries to suck you, you are helpless at least in Narutoverse alone.

Which was why Madara had that "!" moment when Raikage tried to blitz him and Madara turned intangible.
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:58 PM   #852
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Once he tries to suck you, you are helpless at least in Narutoverse alone.
Unless your name is Pain. Or Naruto. Or Kakashi. Or Konan. Or Jiraiya. Or Minato. And if Minato is fast enough to react to it, there are any number of people who can as well.

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I don't remember that. Chapter and page number.
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Unless your name is Pain. Or Naruto. Or Kakashi. Or Konan. Or Jiraiya. Or Minato. And if Minato is fast enough to react to it, there are any number of people who can as well.

I don't remember that. Chapter and page number.
Reaction isn't the problem once he grabs he warps you.
The escape is the problem.
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:05 PM   #854
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If he's dead that's not a problem.

If he wants to avoid being dead he needs Izanagi and to use it he needs to stop warping.

So he has the choice of getting shanked and dying or stop sucking and use Izanagi.

He tries again, he gets shanked again. Same choice. Try again and again and again. Eventually Madara runs out of Izanagi and dies from shanking.
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If he's dead that's not a problem.

If he wants to avoid being dead he needs Izanagi and to use it he needs to stop warping.

So he has the choice of getting shanked and dying or stop sucking and use Izanagi.

He tries again, he gets shanked again. Same choice. Try again and again and again. Eventually Madara runs out of Izanagi and dies from shanking.

Good thing he has Izanagi.

I will repeat the scenario.

SM Naruto punches. Madara goes intangible and the second the arm is out he grabs and instantly BFRs. Bloodlusted Madara mind you. He may need few more tries at max but really Madara has all the time in the world. 5 minutes+ are easily enough.
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He tries to suck you in, you shank him. He can either let himself die or stop sucking and use Izanagi. Try again, he gets shanked again. Same choice. Try again and again and again. Eventually Madara runs out of Izanagi and dies from shanking.
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He tries to suck you in, you shank him. He can either let himself die or stop sucking and use Izanagi. Try again, he gets shanked again. Same choice. Try again and again and again. Eventually Madara runs out of Izanagi and dies from shanking.
How do you shank him when you are being sucked in? You can't fight back while you are being warped.
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If Fodder Aburame could do it, a someone stronger and much much much faster could do it. In fact, I've got a brilliant thread idea.
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Thats different. That is because Madara touched Torune.

Torune himself didn't do anything.
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I thought Torune was the Fodder Yamanaka.
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