NEW Naruto Power List

[Yuuta]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

The "boosters" can probably come out and blast her once she prepares to stab him, and stabbing will likely be tanked, not to mention he can dodge.

It's likely that Hidan had help from Kakuzu to beat it. It had powerful blasts of fire that can destroy a large area and its full power wasn't shown, which is why it's up there. In fact it should be above Shukaku due to the number of tails but Shukaku can beat it with the feats it's shown.

Edit: I'm adding Hiruzen (Prime) and moving him up because of the new things confirmed in the latest fanbook.

She won't need to stab him. And they'd have to fight through her paper to get out, which is no easy task. Additionally, it would be all to easy for her to split and dodge it, and blanket him again.
And Konan doesn't always stab in the story, either. She killed alot of ninja with suffocation only in the invasion, they were in a cuccoon of paper. Jugo can briefly repel it, but he'll only be blanketed again.

Well due to hype it should be higher, then. I'm not seeing how Tsunade and Chiyo beat it if it's so powerful.

Alright, he was supposedly really strong, so I guess that works.

[Superwes Reborn]

You should put Madara (prime), in front of Madara (current).

[Superwes Reborn]

Why is madara in the past behind madara current? He said he was a shadow of his former self

You also forgot lots of current people.

Killerbee, Raikage, the rest of the kages, Their jonin, etc

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Yuuta

She won't need to stab him. And they'd have to fight through her paper to get out, which is no easy task. Additionally, it would be all to easy for her to split and dodge it, and blanket him again.
And Konan doesn't always stab in the story, either. She killed alot of ninja with suffocation only in the invasion, they were in a cuccoon of paper. Jugo can briefly repel it, but he'll only be blanketed again.

Well due to hype it should be higher, then. I'm not seeing how Tsunade and Chiyo beat it if it's so powerful.

Alright, he was supposedly really strong, so I guess that works.

What if she decides to stab him? And if she appears then he can blast her away with the cannon, surely it won't take much work for CS2 boosters to push themselves out of paper, if Konan even blankets those.

That's only by hype, Tsunade has a summon backing her up and Chiyo has her 10 puppets, the 2 tails really lacks feats.

Originally Posted by Superwes Reborn

Why is madara in the past behind madara current? He said he was a shadow of his former self

Current Madara has shown better feats with his teleporting. Past Madara can't be moved up because Hashirama can beat him, and I don't know if Past Madara can teleport like his current version can.

[Superwes Reborn]

But he even said that he wasn't as strong

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Superwes Reborn

But he even said that he wasn't as strong

Feats say otherwise.

Edit: Scratch that, Past Madara should be better, but maybe he was just talking about Kyubi control? Either way I'm moving current Madara down.

[Yuuta]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

What if she decides to stab him? And if she appears then he can blast her away with the cannon, surely it won't take much work for CS2 boosters to push themselves out of paper, if Konan even blankets those.

First off...Really? She'll she that he has a curse mark, she's not stupid. And if she does, it's not big deal. It doesn't work, the blasters come out, she scatters.
She'll see the blasters is what I'm saying. There was enough time for everyone to gawk at them. E had his hand stuck in him, and even then he was fast enough to move (not that I'm saying Konan's that fast) but Jugo really needs his opponents to stay stationary. She has more than enough time to split.
After that, she'll know stabbing won't work, and will repeatedly blanket him until he's in a cuccoon and suffocates. She'll have the perfect opening after Jugo fires.

[Yuuta]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

That's only by hype, Tsunade has a summon backing her up and Chiyo has her 10 puppets, the 2 tails really lacks feats.

Yes, but then why is it so high? Mei gives it a run for its money with her lava and mist. If we're going off feats, it needs to be around Yugito Nii.
If by hype, I think it needs to be higher.

[zebrakiller]

so why is curse mark sasuke so damn high?

[AkatsukiMember]

It's a good tier list.

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Yuuta

First off...Really? She'll she that he has a curse mark, she's not stupid. And if she does, it's not big deal. It doesn't work, the blasters come out, she scatters.
She'll see the blasters is what I'm saying. There was enough time for everyone to gawk at them. E had his hand stuck in him, and even then he was fast enough to move (not that I'm saying Konan's that fast) but Jugo really needs his opponents to stay stationary. She has more than enough time to split.
After that, she'll know stabbing won't work, and will repeatedly blanket him until he's in a cuccoon and suffocates. She'll have the perfect opening after Jugo fires.

She'll see the cannons but if she's in a large clump around Jugo they can hit her more easily. If Konan's suffocating him, then the cannons will easily take care of all the paper, there's like 14 of them.

Darui and Shi got to gawk at it to show their shock at E being in point blank range, that doesn't mean the cannons are slow, they took a panel to charge and aim at E, they can aim at the various clumps of paper.

So after Jugo fires and she's still there, Konan would attack him, Jugo cuts the paper then fires the cannons again, they haven't shown a limit to one blast.

Originally Posted by Yuuta

Yes, but then why is it so high? Mei gives it a run for its money with her lava and mist. If we're going off feats, it needs to be around Yugito Nii.
If by hype, I think it needs to be higher.

Mei hasn't shown many speed feats and how does she avoid the giant fire blasts it makes?

Originally Posted by zebrakiller

so why is curse mark sasuke so damn high?

Because he's that powerful.

[Yuuta]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

She'll see the cannons but if she's in a large clump around Jugo they can hit her more easily. If Konan's suffocating him, then the cannons will easily take care of all the paper, there's like 14 of them.

Darui and Shi got to gawk at it to show their shock at E being in point blank range, that doesn't mean the cannons are slow, they took a panel to charge and aim at E, they can aim at the various clumps of paper.

So after Jugo fires and she's still there, Konan would attack him, Jugo cuts the paper then fires the cannons again, they haven't shown a limit to one blast.

Mei hasn't shown many speed feats and how does she avoid the giant fire blasts it makes?

What? They have a circular radius, but Konan's volume is greater than that, she took up a whole cove and covered an entire city. We have a start forward blast and a small radius. That gets rid only the paper on him and about 16% of her paper in front of him. He's easily covered again after the tendrils retreat. And we've got Konan's regen speed...

And what are they going to aim at, one of the hundreds of swarming pieces of paper? Not realy effective.

The tendrils retreated after he fired, they'd probably have to grow and charge again, but they'd have to force their way through Konan's paper again, which would once again alert her. And she still blankets him, his attempting to cut the paper would have to him swing his arm through it, covering it with paper, then we have the paper's literal weight, she gets his eyes, and the cutting's pretty useless. And we have Konan's regen speed...

Well if we're assuming she's can't dodge, but even Hidan dodged.

[reemus55]

Why is the two tailed cat lower than one tailed shukaku?

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Yuuta

What? They have a circular radius, but Konan's volume is greater than that, she took up a whole cove and covered an entire city. We have a start forward blast and a small radius. That gets rid only the paper on him and about 16% of her paper in front of him. He's easily covered again after the tendrils retreat. And we've got Konan's regen speed...

And what are they going to aim at, one of the hundreds of swarming pieces of paper? Not realy effective.

The tendrils retreated after he fired, they'd probably have to grow and charge again, but they'd have to force their way through Konan's paper again, which would once again alert her. And she still blankets him, his attempting to cut the paper would have to him swing his arm through it, covering it with paper, then we have the paper's literal weight, she gets his eyes, and the cutting's pretty useless. And we have Konan's regen speed...

Well if we're assuming she's can't dodge, but even Hidan dodged.

Where's this about the whole cove/entire city?

Konan doesn't even know about what his CS2 does let alone the cannons, even the Raikage and his bodyguards were surprised about the cannons, and she also won't know what the holes do until the beams charge, which only takes a panel. Konan tends to appear when she's attacking, and she also attacks in large groups of paper, and considering the speed on the cannons and what she doesn't know about it she would have to react quickly.

While the axe and piston punches won't really do much, it can ward off the paper, if some paper gets on his arm it's no big deal unless the whole swarm covers him, then he can pull out the cannons and surprise attack Konan with them.

Hmm you're right, I'll move Mei up.

Originally Posted by reemus55

Why is the two tailed cat lower than one tailed shukaku?

Because it lacks feats, although from hype it should be higher.

[Yuuta]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Where's this about the whole cove/entire city?

Konan doesn't even know about what his CS2 does let alone the cannons, even the Raikage and his bodyguards were surprised about the cannons, and she also won't know what the holes do until the beams charge, which only takes a panel. Konan tends to appear when she's attacking, and she also attacks in large groups of paper, and considering the speed on the cannons and what she doesn't know about it she would have to react quickly.

While the axe and piston punches won't really do much, it can ward off the paper, if some paper gets on his arm it's no big deal unless the whole swarm covers him, then he can pull out the cannons and surprise attack Konan with them.

Hmm you're right, I'll move Mei up.

Because it lacks feats, although from hype it should be higher.

Remeber when she was waiting for Jiraya in that huge metal tower? And when she was searching for Jiraya by splitting up and covering the whole city? That's what I'm referencing.

She only appeared in the invasion because she wanted to gather information.
And Darui and Shi quickly inferenced that the cannons very going to fire, very obviously. So would Konan, and yes, she could react quickly. Her swarm of paper is capable of moving quickly, as she showed in the fight against Jiraya.

...Not really. If your saying wind currents from the punches will do help reflect them, I highly doubt it. Konan was very skilled in navigating her paper through the air, she would undoubtedly cover him.
And yes, it would have an effect. If her paper is strong enough to render people immobile, she will definetly be able to do it to Jugo, though it'll probably take a little more paper.
And it won't be a surprise attack, the tendrils will have to force their way through Konan's paper. She'd see them and split.

She's skilled in suffocation, she knew exactly which piece of paper is needed to suffocate, as she showed in the invasion.
Seriously, she has paper regeneration when she's hurt in paper mode, and made thousands upon thousands of paper for her tree... There's absolutely no way Jugo survives being covered with the amount of paper she can produce.

Alright...It's position is still bugging me alittle, though... Are we going off it's feats or hype? By hype it needs to be higher, but feats it needs to be lower. I honestly think we need to use alittle more hype, since it's supposed to be a very powerful opponent, but in terms of literal feats, it's really just got strength, a fire jutsu, and stamina, I'm guessing. That literally lands it about below Rock Lee. By hype, it should be below Deidara.
Salamander Hanzo? Why not just...Hanzo...

[Yuuta]

Scrath that about the cat, it seems strong. The fire ball it made destroyed an entire building.
Physical strength it's alittle lacking, though. Kakuzu managed to catch it so he wasn't crushed. Still pretty strong by normal standards, though.
I think it needs to be higher, how about near Hanzo, or below Tobirama Senju?

[Avenger]

Wow, nice list. Seems like I missed somethings while I was gone for a while..

Not really much disagreements or anything, but I'd like to ask about Hiruzen and Gai. Assuming Gai starts with 6th Gate, I'm not too sure Hiruzen can keep up too long. Even summoning Enma might not be a good choice since that takes a bit of time and Gai probably wont stop attacking.

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Yuuta

Remeber when she was waiting for Jiraya in that huge metal tower? And when she was searching for Jiraya by splitting up and covering the whole city? That's what I'm referencing.

She only appeared in the invasion because she wanted to gather information.
And Darui and Shi quickly inferenced that the cannons very going to fire, very obviously. So would Konan, and yes, she could react quickly. Her swarm of paper is capable of moving quickly, as she showed in the fight against Jiraya.

...Not really. If your saying wind currents from the punches will do help reflect them, I highly doubt it. Konan was very skilled in navigating her paper through the air, she would undoubtedly cover him.
And yes, it would have an effect. If her paper is strong enough to render people immobile, she will definetly be able to do it to Jugo, though it'll probably take a little more paper.
And it won't be a surprise attack, the tendrils will have to force their way through Konan's paper. She'd see them and split.

She's skilled in suffocation, she knew exactly which piece of paper is needed to suffocate, as she showed in the invasion.
Seriously, she has paper regeneration when she's hurt in paper mode, and made thousands upon thousands of paper for her tree... There's absolutely no way Jugo survives being covered with the amount of paper she can produce.

Alright...It's position is still bugging me alittle, though... Are we going off it's feats or hype? By hype it needs to be higher, but feats it needs to be lower. I honestly think we need to use alittle more hype, since it's supposed to be a very powerful opponent, but in terms of literal feats, it's really just got strength, a fire jutsu, and stamina, I'm guessing. That literally lands it about below Rock Lee. By hype, it should be below Deidara.
Salamander Hanzo? Why not just...Hanzo...

Speaking of splitting up, it took like three pages for her to do that, then take the form she wants to use, so if she goes in full paper mode she'll have to do that right? Jugo can attack her by then.

Konan's paper hasn't shown any really good speed feats and if she were to go and suffocate him, or stab him, the cannons can appear and blast her, decimating a large amount of paper, since it's a huge swarm. Jugo was stated to have huge amounts of chakra by one of the trackers, Shii I think, so chakra isn't a problem here if you're going to bring up the whole Konan has a lot of chakra debate.

As if the tendrils are going to take a long time, Jugo can dodge, he should be faster in CS2 and the boosters on his back prevent him from being too covered there since they can release fire, while he can cut away at the paper using his axe, which is pretty big, and enough to counter something like Suigetsu's sword. Some paper will probably cover his arm but he can cut through the other sheets by swinging it.

Well we should use a little more hype. And Salamander Hanzo is just another title, plus it sounds cooler >_>

Originally Posted by Yuuta

Scrath that about the cat, it seems strong. The fire ball it made destroyed an entire building.
Physical strength it's alittle lacking, though. Kakuzu managed to catch it so he wasn't crushed. Still pretty strong by normal standards, though.
I think it needs to be higher, how about near Hanzo, or below Tobirama Senju?

It might need to be somewhat higher, but for now I'll move it back above Mei.

Originally Posted by Avenger

Wow, nice list. Seems like I missed somethings while I was gone for a while..

Not really much disagreements or anything, but I'd like to ask about Hiruzen and Gai. Assuming Gai starts with 6th Gate, I'm not too sure Hiruzen can keep up too long. Even summoning Enma might not be a good choice since that takes a bit of time and Gai probably wont stop attacking.

Thanks, and I haven't seen you in a while Avenger, welcome back.

Alright I'll move 6 Gate Guy up, since I'm sure he's much faster than old Hiruzen.

[narutoultra]

Originally Posted by Avenger

Wow, nice list. Seems like I missed somethings while I was gone for a while..

Not really much disagreements or anything, but I'd like to ask about Hiruzen and Gai. Assuming Gai starts with 6th Gate, I'm not too sure Hiruzen can keep up too long. Even summoning Enma might not be a good choice since that takes a bit of time and Gai probably wont stop attacking.

I' pretty sure you missed the battleground wiki, battleground rules, OBD migrants, new mod selection, and more.

Your just in time to vote for[or against] Banning Goku VS Superman

About that Gai thing, that sounds right to me as well, Gai should be able to break through whatever Hiruzen pulls out.

[Yuuta]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Speaking of splitting up, it took like three pages for her to do that, then take the form she wants to use, so if she goes in full paper mode she'll have to do that right? Jugo can attack her by then.

Konan's paper hasn't shown any really good speed feats and if she were to go and suffocate him, or stab him, the cannons can appear and blast her, decimating a large amount of paper, since it's a huge swarm. Jugo was stated to have huge amounts of chakra by one of the trackers, Shii I think, so chakra isn't a problem here if you're going to bring up the whole Konan has a lot of chakra debate.

As if the tendrils are going to take a long time, Jugo can dodge, he should be faster in CS2 and the boosters on his back prevent him from being too covered there since they can release fire, while he can cut away at the paper using his axe, which is pretty big, and enough to counter something like Suigetsu's sword. Some paper will probably cover his arm but he can cut through the other sheets by swinging it.

Well we should use a little more hype. And Salamander Hanzo is just another title, plus it sounds cooler >_>

It might need to be somewhat higher, but for now I'll move it back above Mei.

She condensed and split quite quickly when she was relaying messages to pain and fighting Jiraya.

And yes, it caught Jiraya before he could react. CMS2 Jugo is the one without speed feats. >_> She would get him before the tendrils came out.
I'm assuming Jugo has a lot of chakra, actually. But I'm saying you can't count Konan out of because of that.

The boosters have shown no use for speed, and those fires looked chakra oriented, and can be smothered out, like every fire, because they need oxygen. Covered in paper...gets no oxygen. She might lose a few pieces, but she has way too much for him to counter. And bigger does not equal better - that's just more surface area for Konan to cover and weigh him down...It'd just doom him even faster.

I think more hype would be best.