sasori vs. the fourth hokage - Page 6

Vivi · 11-12-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven

Ok, the 3rd hokage is said to have mastered all the leaf village jutsu's but he hasn't shown many jutsu, but you say he can't use every jutsu the leaf has.

But it hasnt been revealed what Jutsu is the leafs and which isnt.

He has mastered them but hasnt shown them.Thereby its not a feat but only an assumption and cant be used in debating in a fight.
Besides:
This is irrelevant.
Hiruzen got nothing to do with this.

Lady Tsunade · 11-12-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by V-Valentine

Gamabunta is 100m big.
Sakura is about 167cm tall.
So about 80 times as big.

Besides being bigger means your an easier target.
Especiallly with Iron Sand.It got a better chance to hit.

O thats not what I mean,umm ok,every spider in the world has venom in it,but most spiders dont have enough venom in them to kill us or have any effect on us,Gamabunta is a hell of a lot bigger than Sakura,If he gets scratched like Sakura did,he will still be able to fight because there wont be enough poison to stop him,if he gets scratched loooads of times,he will get hit by the effects of the poison,but not as fast as Sakura did,besides hes shown to be fairly good at jumping and dodging,i think he could jump out of the way on most cases.

But anyway,im starting to have doubts,I didnt know Minato had to make tags ie prep time before using his teleportation move,bringing his chances down a lot :/

Vivi · 11-12-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasori

There is no way that something as big as Gama is gonna dodge something as fast as Iron Sand. Also, there is a lot of poison soaked into that Iron Sand it should be able to stop something as big as Gama.

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Iron sand is the fastest we ever saw in all of Naruto.
Its proven to be so fast that its near impossible to dodge and be seen.

Only thing that can compare to its speed is Raikage with his armour and Minato during FTG teleportation.

Space Cowboy Sasori · 11-12-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by V-Valentine

Iron sand is the fastest we ever saw in all of Naruto.
Its proven to be so fast that its near impossible to dodge and be seen.

Only thing that can compare to its speed is Raikage with his armour and Minato during FTG teleportation.

Which was one of the points I was also making earlier in the thread, but now I'm out of the debating mood.

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Kuromaki · 11-12-2009, 04:25 PM

Sasori wins, Iron Sand easily blocks any of Minato's attacks. FTG can only be used with a seal that can be reflected or dodged. Also, Minato has no counter for the poison, which would numb his body immediately.

321zigzag1 · 11-12-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by V-Valentine

Iron sand is the fastest we ever saw in all of Naruto.
Its proven to be so fast that its near impossible to dodge and be seen.

Only thing that can compare to its speed is Raikage with his armour and Minato during FTG teleportation.

FRS is thrown faster than that. Killerbee in three tail form? Also top tiers are capable of dodging Iron sand anyway. Even more are within reaction speed bounds.

321zigzag1 · 11-12-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Sasori wins, Iron Sand easily blocks any of Minato's attacks. FTG can only be used with a seal that can be reflected or dodged. Also, Minato has no counter for the poison, which would numb his body immediately.

Sadly Minato lacks some feats so he loses for now.

nightfire · 11-12-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerKunoichixxx

O thats not what I mean,umm ok,every spider in the world has venom in it,but most spiders dont have enough venom in them to kill us or have any effect on us,Gamabunta is a hell of a lot bigger than Sakura,If he gets scratched like Sakura did,he will still be able to fight because there wont be enough poison to stop him,if he gets scratched loooads of times,he will get hit by the effects of the poison,but not as fast as Sakura did,besides hes shown to be fairly good at jumping and dodging,i think he could jump out of the way on most cases.

But anyway,im starting to have doubts,I didnt know Minato had to make tags ie prep time before using his teleportation move,bringing his chances down a lot :/

okay look at the topic first post i said they were in the area where sakura and sasori fought having a boss summon in there isnt even possible unless you want to kill everything i really dont think he would fit in that cave, it is fairly big but still dont think that would work so it doesnt even matter

nightfire · 11-12-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

Sadly Minato lacks some feats so he loses for now.

thank you i agree, maybe if we saw some of minato's other jutsu and normal speed he would win but since we are going off of only his teleportation, summon, and rasengan he loses. you all have been fighting over what i put in my first post and i think its pretty well settled now that sarori wins.

uchiha-master · 11-12-2009, 06:06 PM

4 hokage he can esily block anything

nightfire · 11-12-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by uchiha-master

4 hokage he can esily block anything

even if he cant teleport and is being attacked with posion weapons from over 300 enemies that are rigged with weapons, and with iron sand attacking him???? i really dont think so

Kuromaki · 11-12-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by uchiha-master

4 hokage he can esily block anything

Wow...do you even know what Sasori's attacks can do?

321zigzag1 · 11-12-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by uchiha-master

4 hokage he can esily block anything

with what?

nightfire · 11-12-2009, 07:08 PM

wow uchiha master's post just got uber attacked lolz

icy-j · 11-12-2009, 07:19 PM

Sasori wins pretty easy, Minato would first have to get past Sasori's hiruko without getting a scratch from his needles, or his tail. Next, Sasori has his Kazekage puppet and iron sand which I don't see how Minato would get past this with Iron Sand being able to block any attack and Sasori being able to just use some to go up in the air. If any Iron sand hits, then the fight is already over. Boss summons won't even matter poison would just finish them easy.

If Minato gets past Sasori's kazekage puppet which I don't see possible. Then we now have 298 puppets which Minato once again can't take a scratch, and Sasori's trueform ability and heart transfer.

All those for Minato are saying he would be able to get through all this without taking a scratch, which I don't see possible.

deidara330 · 11-12-2009, 07:20 PM

Minato is hardly fun to debate with at all. Everyone just says he throws a kunai, teleports, and insta-wins. Sasori blocks a kunai with Iron Sand, and he can also use the sand to block Rasengan and poison the boss summon. Seriously, Sasori beats every single attack with ease and people still think Minato wins. He isn't uber fast without FTG, and Sasori can block that easy.

321zigzag1 · 11-12-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by deidara330

Minato is hardly fun to debate with at all. Everyone just says he throws a kunai, teleports, and insta-wins. Sasori blocks a kunai with Iron Sand, and he can also use the sand to block Rasengan and poison the boss summon. Seriously, Sasori beats every single attack with ease and people still think Minato wins. He isn't uber fast without FTG, and Sasori can block that easy.

He is very fast even without it. He was compared to Raikage raiton armor enhanced in speed.
That being said Minato lacks feats to make this a good fight.

deidara330 · 11-12-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

He is very fast even without it. He was compared to Raikage raiton armor enhanced in speed.
That being said Minato lacks feats to make this a good fight.

Tell me one feat he showed in the manga where he didn't use FTG but was still fast. Please provide the chapter and, if you can, the page number to go along with the feat.

321zigzag1 · 11-12-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by deidara330

Tell me one feat he showed in the manga where he didn't use FTG but was still fast. Please provide the chapter and, if you can, the page number to go along with the feat.

I just told you. Shii compared Yondaime's speed and reflexes to Raikage raiton armor enhanced.

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deidara330 · 11-12-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

I just told you. Shii compared Yondaime's speed and reflexes to Raikage raiton armor enhanced.

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Sorry, but those links aren't allowed on this website. Anyways, I asked for a feat. Shi talking is hardly a feat. Besides, there's no way to identify if he wasn't talking about base speed or if he was.

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icy-j Genin Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Idk Posts: 303 Rep Power: 0	Re: sasori vs. the fourth hokage Sasori wins pretty easy, Minato would first have to get past Sasori's hiruko without getting a scratch from his needles, or his tail. Next, Sasori has his Kazekage puppet and iron sand which I don't see how Minato would get past this with Iron Sand being able to block any attack and Sasori being able to just use some to go up in the air. If any Iron sand hits, then the fight is already over. Boss summons won't even matter poison would just finish them easy. If Minato gets past Sasori's kazekage puppet which I don't see possible. Then we now have 298 puppets which Minato once again can't take a scratch, and Sasori's trueform ability and heart transfer. All those for Minato are saying he would be able to get through all this without taking a scratch, which I don't see possible.

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deidara330 Mr. Serious Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Everywhere and Nowhere. Posts: 14,489 Rep Power: 14	Re: sasori vs. the fourth hokage Minato is hardly fun to debate with at all. Everyone just says he throws a kunai, teleports, and insta-wins. Sasori blocks a kunai with Iron Sand, and he can also use the sand to block Rasengan and poison the boss summon. Seriously, Sasori beats every single attack with ease and people still think Minato wins. He isn't uber fast without FTG, and Sasori can block that easy.

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