Kakuzu vs Minato

[Miles Edgeworth]

I used to think Minato stomps this but honestly I'm not sure anymore. If Minato isn't using FTG Kakuzu does have his elements, plus Kakuzu has 5 lives to take out.

Who do you guys say would win?

GIVE REASONS. If you don't, you will probably be down repped by a lot of people.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Iron skin plays a huge factor in this, can he tank rasengan? Wind element might be able to blow away the Kunai for FTG.

If Kakuzu can tank a Rasengan, than I believe he can win unless Minato uses boss summons. I'm not sure that Kakuzu can get past boss summons.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by Sasori

Iron skin plays a huge factor in this, can he tank rasengan? Wind element might be able to blow away the Kunai for FTG.

If Kakuzu can tank a Rasengan, than I believe he can win unless Minato uses boss summons. I'm not sure that Kakuzu can get past boss summons.

Personally I think he can tank Rasengan since it's on a much lower scale than FRS was.

If Minato has to stop to summon, I think Kakuzu can grab him with threads and kill him with the elements before he can.

[Yellow Flash]

Originally Posted by rocklee_112713

Personally I think he can tank Rasengan since it's on a much lower scale than FRS was.

If Minato has to stop to summon, I think Kakuzu can grab him with threads and kill him with the elements before he can.

But it's not as simple as that, Minato isn't just gonna stop in the middle of battle to prep his boss summon. I'm sure he'll make some kinda diversion with FTG or something else and then prep the boss summon. I think people seriously underestimate Minato because of a lack of battle showing off his skills, but that's just my opinion.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Originally Posted by Legendary Yellow Flash

But it's not as simple as that, Minato isn't just gonna stop in the middle of battle to prep his boss summon. I'm sure he'll make some kinda diversion with FTG or something else and then prep the boss summon. I think people seriously underestimate Minato because of a lack of battle showing off his skills, but that's just my opinion.

Problem is he can't do a diversion if wind element can just blow the Kunai away instead of the kunai tagging him.

Minato doesn't have enough shown jutsu's to make a diversion, and the only jutsu he has allows him to teleport which wouldn't make much of a diversion because that'd cancel the whole Summoning.

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[rose93]

Originally Posted by Legendary Yellow Flash

But it's not as simple as that, Minato isn't just gonna stop in the middle of battle to prep his boss summon. I'm sure he'll make some kinda diversion with FTG or something else and then prep the boss summon. I think people seriously underestimate Minato because of a lack of battle showing off his skills, but that's just my opinion.

agreed, it takes time to summon, so he would prob make a clone or something. Minato is strong but they just dont show most of his fighting skills. So I think Minato could win.

[Avenger]

I'm going with Minato, with doubts though.

While Kakuzu seperates his hearts, he'd probably be open for an FTG or Rasengan. I'm not sure if he can switch to Iron Skin while Minato charges at him with Rasengan, but I doubt he can if Minato uses FTG. If Kakuzu does manage to sepearate without getting hurt, that'd be a problem for Minato. But then he could just FTG out of the attacks, and if he constantly did that, it'd make Kakuzu confused..

If Gamabunta was summoned, Kakuzu would have a hard time, I don't think he can pull it through. Iirc it doesn't take so much prep time to summon, so Minato might be able to summon him within a large range from him.

[Yellow Flash]

Originally Posted by Sasori

Problem is he can't do a diversion if wind element can just blow the Kunai away instead of the kunai tagging him.

Minato doesn't have enough shown jutsu's to make a diversion, and the only jutsu he has allows him to teleport which wouldn't make much of a diversion because that'd cancel the whole Summoning.

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That's the whole point, there haven't been enough evidence of hist power. But I think everyone, including me, that he was the 4th Hokage. If they went into finer detail, I think he would be shown to a marvelous ninja.

[MannyGAGA]

ummmmm kakuzu wins this!! his hearts(5)
each of his hearts has an chakra element
and how do you thinhg he lived for all these years!! not only was he taking hearts,he had to kill the ppls in order to take the hearts and also he needed powerful ppl to make the hearts good so thats somthing to thing about

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Originally Posted by Avenger

I'm going with Minato, with doubts though.

While Kakuzu seperates his hearts, he'd probably be open for an FTG or Rasengan. I'm not sure if he can switch to Iron Skin while Minato charges at him with Rasengan, but I doubt he can if Minato uses FTG. If Kakuzu does manage to sepearate without getting hurt, that'd be a problem for Minato. But then he could just FTG out of the attacks, and if he constantly did that, it'd make Kakuzu confused..

If Gamabunta was summoned, Kakuzu would have a hard time, I don't think he can pull it through. Iirc it doesn't take so much prep time to summon, so Minato might be able to summon him within a large range from him.

I'm still sticking that Wind element can blow away any Kunai that come in range. It doesn't take long to seperate anyways. If Minato blindly charges in than Kakuzu doesn't need to use Iron skin, he can just shoot him down with his elements. FTGing out of attacks is an option, but it wouldn't get him anywhere and he'd get tired faster.

Kakuzu's threads are mad fast though, which means Minato wouldn't have the time to Summon unless he had cover around him. I do agree that Minato can win if he has Gamabunta out though.

Originally Posted by Legendary Yellow Flash

That's the whole point, there haven't been enough evidence of hist power. But I think everyone, including me, that he was the 4th Hokage. If they went into finer detail, I think he would be shown to a marvelous ninja.

Minato probably was a great ninja, he just hasn't shown anything. We've seen Kakashi Gaiden, Jiraiya Gaiden, we need a Minato Gaiden.

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[Avenger]

Originally Posted by Sasori

I'm still sticking that Wind element can blow away any Kunai that come in range. Dude, the wind jutsu isnt instant and the kunai is fast. It doesn't take long to seperate anyways. long enough for FTG to hit him. If Minato blindly charges in than Kakuzu doesn't need to use Iron skin, he can just shoot him down with his elements. I said while he seperates. Im not sure if he can attack while he does that. FTGing out of attacks is an option, but it wouldn't get him anywhere and he'd get tired faster. FTG takes very little chakra, and if he FTGs nearby to Kakuzu's hearts, he has potential to kill them with a jutsu before they do anything.

Kakuzu's threads are mad fast though, which means Minato wouldn't have the time to Summon unless he had cover around him. FTGing out of it is an option. If he FTGs away from Kakuzu he might be able to summon. I do agree that Minato can win if he has Gamabunta out though.

Orange.

[sasu_girl]

if the iron skin of kakuzu can't take a chidori, i doubt it can take a rasengan. i think minato would come up with some awesomely smart plan to take down kakuzu and win. but i think minato would still get his but kicked, just survive it and kill kakuzu.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Originally Posted by Avenger

Orange.

The Kunai isn't that fast, only Minato is while he's doing it from going to point a to point b.

Separation doesn't take long at all, he can separate fast enough to not get hit by a kunai or to blow it away.

Minato can't FTG near the hearts if Wind Element is out to blow the Kunai away. If Minato does get close the only jutsu he has that can potentially hurt Kakuzu is Rasengan and that takes time to make and since it can't penetrate the Iron Skin it doesn't really do much.

Again, he can't FTG out of it if Kakuzu can blow it away with Wind heart. Kakuzu can have his threads go and have the element do it's jutsu very fast.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Originally Posted by sasu_girl

if the iron skin of kakuzu can't take a chidori, i doubt it can take a rasengan. i think minato would come up with some awesomely smart plan to take down kakuzu and win. but i think minato would still get his but kicked, just survive it and kill kakuzu.

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[Miles Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by sasu_girl

if the iron skin of kakuzu can't take a chidori, i doubt it can take a rasengan. i think minato would come up with some awesomely smart plan to take down kakuzu and win. but i think minato would still get his but kicked, just survive it and kill kakuzu.

*Facepalm* If you read the manga then it CLEARLY says that Raikiri pierced Kakuzu because Iron Skin was Earth Element and Raikiri was lightning, Rasengan isn't lightning.

Lol Minato hasn't even shown massive intelligence feats. A smart plan? Yeah, that would be good, but what everybody forgets is he has to kill Kakuzu 5 TIMES. I'm sure Minato will get a kill or 2 in but there's just no way he'll kill every heart Kakuzu has.

[Kuromaki]

Kakuzu wins.

He can tank Minato's Rasengan or his kunai with Iron Skin and he can easily deflect the kunais using his Wind Heart. Minato might be able to take out a few hearts but he wouldn't be able to take out all 5 unless he had Gamabunta's help.

[Yellow Flash]

Originally Posted by rocklee_112713

*Facepalm* If you read the manga then it CLEARLY says that Raikiri pierced Kakuzu because Iron Skin was Earth Element and Raikiri was lightning, Rasengan isn't lightning.

Lol Minato hasn't even shown massive intelligence feats. A smart plan? Yeah, that would be good, but what everybody forgets is he has to kill Kakuzu 5 TIMES. I'm sure Minato will get a kill or 2 in but there's just no way he'll kill every heart Kakuzu has.

If Minato's son can do it so can he. As of now, Naruto isn't even close to the combat level of Minato. And in the Kakashi Gaiden is does a little bit that he is very witty. Besides, your taking him to lightly, he was the 4th Hokage. Hes the creator of the Rasengan when Jiraiya's was simply amazing, imagine if the creator of the jutsu used it.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by Legendary Yellow Flash

If Minato's son can do it so can he. As of now, Naruto isn't even close to the combat level of Minato. And in the Kakashi Gaiden is does a little bit that he is very witty. Besides, your taking him to lightly, he was the 4th Hokage. Hes the creator of the Rasengan when Jiraiya's was simply amazing, imagine if the creator of the jutsu used it.

Naruto won due to plot and the fact that Kakuzu already lost 2 hearts previously and had been fighting long before Naruto showed up.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Originally Posted by rocklee_112713

Naruto won due to plot and the fact that Kakuzu already lost 2 hearts previously and had been fighting long before Naruto showed up.

Technically, he was fighting five people in the battle, so the man was greatly outnumbered.

Anyways, I think Iron Skin can tank a Rasengan, including any Kunai that Minato throws at Kakuzu to form his Teleportation Jutsu. Minato may the use his Toads Summoning, but Kakuzu may kill Minato before Minato could Summon.

[deidara330]

Minato's only shown speed feats are during FTG, so if he can't successfully pull it off he's not that tough. Of Minato's 2 actual techniques, he can tank both. He tanks Rasengan, and a kunai won't do anything while his skin is iron. He outnumbers Minato with five hearts, and his elements can shoot at very wide ranges.