Why did Madara send Pain

[3littlepigs]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

Like I said before. Telling Sasuke the story about Konoha being bad is the
same thing as telling Sasuke to destroy Konoha.

I don't believe Madara is on Sasuke's side.

No, it's not the same thing. Take Itachi as the best example, he was the one most affected by Danzou's, the 3rd's and the two elder's decision and yet he was still loyal to Konoha and wanted to protect the village. Sasuke always needs something or someone as an excuse for his behavior but the truth is he's just weak mentally and emotionally...an easy target. Surely easier to manipulate than Itachi so it makes sense Madara only had to tell him the "truth" to get him to "join" Akatsuki. With his wild imagination and the belief that no one on earth has it as hard as he does, Sasuke came to the conclusion of destroying Konoha on his own. You're not even disagreeing with me since you also think Madara isn't on Sasuke's side. Like I said he isn't on anyone's side except his own, but because he isn't as powerful as he once was he needs people like Nagato and Sasuke, easy to manipulate and extremely powerful.

[Nine-TailedSage_Naruto]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

I too find it fishy. So far, it seems Madara had been distracting Sasuke with capturing Killer Bee and the Kage Assassination.
I think he doesn't want Sasuke to go back to the Uchiha Shrine. Madara did say that the shrine can be read with different eyes, one part with the regular Sharingan, one with the MS, one with the EMS, and one with the Rinnegan. Maybe Madara's trying to keep Sasuke form knowing something that may trouble his plans? ____________

I like this theory. Very interesting.



Haha.....
Yea well like said before just think Sasuke got caught in the Mess but anyways Pain was already on his way and Well Sasuke wants to Kill Danzo he's already shown it, he might not have destoryed the Konoha if he went but he probably would have tried to Taken out Danzo at all costs.

It seems like Madara DOESN'T want Sasuke to kill Danzo. At least not yet.
It's all too suspicious that Danzo leaves the Kage meeting and Madara appears.

No he dint want sasuke to kill danzo during the invasion..

kisame and madara knew that if they sent sasuke to konoha he would try and get to the elders first...if that happened and he did kill one of the elders then konoha would suddenly be put on high alert and that would make obtaining the kyuubi unnecessarily difficult..

also added to the fact that if konoha did go on high alert then sasuke wouldnt(wasnt) be strong enough to handle all of konoha..

this was the one the main reason sasuke wasnt sent to konoha..

[Nine-TailedSage_Naruto]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

There is one simple answer. And a couple of others
Spoiler:
Sasuke simply wasn't strong enough. I doubt he could even kill Naruto. heck, him and kakashi might have had a good match. And he trusted pein the most


Then why convince Sasuke that he should destroy Konoha?

no...sasuke want strong enough AT THAT TIME to destroy konoha....but once madara got him angry he knew that that angry and thirst for revenge would burn in sasuke and make him develop his skiils/abilities even faster ...

[Nine-TailedSage_Naruto]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

Like other members said, Sasuke didn't know the truth about Itachi when Madara gave Pain that order. The one who was supposed to capture Naruto was Itachi but Madara knew 1) he was sick and 2) the fight with Sasuke was going to happen soon meaning 3) Itachi was most likely going to die soon anyways. Pain was sent because in my opinion he and Madara were the only two Akatsuki member "stronger" than Itachi so it just made sense...I don't think it's fishy that just when Sasuke was going to "destroy" Konoha (of course with his wild imagination he believed Taka could've destroy Konoha) Madara told him Pain had already done so...Pain headed towards Konoha before Sasuke "joined" Akatsuki so of course when Sasuke decided to destroy Konoha Pain was already in the process of doing it.


If Madara doesn't think Sasuke is powerful enough to destroy Konoha then why does
he try to convince Sasuke into thinking that he should destroy Konoha? Why not just
let Pain destroy Konoha as he did and not worry about Sasuke?

Why did Madara send Sasuke to the Kage meeting but then have Zetsu tell the Kages
that Sasuke is coming?

It seems like Madara is trying to delay Sasuke from doing what Madara tells Sasuke to do. If Madara is on Sasuke's side (which I don't think he is) he shouldn't be doing that.

1 : Sasuke did not hate konoha...infact with itachi dead and his goals complete there was even a chance that sasuke would return to konoha....and madara couldnt have that (propably because he needed sasuke)....so he told sasuke the "truth" and angered him against konoha..

the reason he dint send sasuke against konoha was that sasuke and Taka wernt strong enough AT THAT TIME....also madara knew that if he did send sasuke..then sasuke would let his emotions rule him and he would obiviously first go to kill the elders...and of he did that then konoha would go on full alert and then obatining the kyuubii would become unnecessarily difficult..

but even thorugh all this...madara knew that once sasuke came to know the "truth" then that would fuel his hatred against konoha and that in turn would help him become stronger and boost his skills....

He wasnt worried about sasuke.....madara dint WANT sasuke to destroy konoha at that time...that was always pein's job....he simply wanted to angry sasuke against konoha , especially its elders ....so then that hatred would fuel his growth...also it would make sasuke work with madara and then madara could use him for his own deeds..

2: in the recent manga chaps madara answers that question ...he says that he did that because he wanted to test sasuke....maby even have him kill a kage or two and make madara's job easier..

[Nine-TailedSage_Naruto]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

Ok anyone else here think that Danzo being the only Kage Sasuke didn't
actually fight to not be coincidence?

Why is Danzo so worried about Sasuke?

what do u mean?

Danzo must have got an obvious feeling that the reason sasuke was coming to the kage must be because he might have come to know about the truth ...(my guess is that danzo must have thought that itachi must have told him befor he died or something)....also sasuke tries to attack danzo remember)

[EdFry]

Spoiler:

I believe it is Madara's plan to get everyone killed who could possibly resist the Moon's Eye Plan, like having Pein get killed and probably planning on Naruto and Sasuke killing each other

[valtreck]

Originally Posted by Zazuro

Because Madara told Pain to captured the Kyuubi jinchuuriki before Pain VS Jiraiya started which means Sasuke VS Itachi began later and "Madara's Story Talk" arc after Sasuke VS itachi and Jiraiya VS Pain, and then sasuke told Madara he wanna destroy Konoha which pain has already left for Konoha.

you're right

[3littlepigs]

Originally Posted by Nine-TailedSage_Naruto

1 : Sasuke did not hate konoha...infact with itachi dead and his goals complete there was even a chance that sasuke would return to konoha....and madara couldnt have that (propably because he needed sasuke)....so he told sasuke the "truth" and angered him against konoha..

the reason he dint send sasuke against konoha was that sasuke and Taka wernt strong enough AT THAT TIME....also madara knew that if he did send sasuke..then sasuke would let his emotions rule him and he would obiviously first go to kill the elders...and of he did that then konoha would go on full alert and then obatining the kyuubii would become unnecessarily difficult..

but even thorugh all this...madara knew that once sasuke came to know the "truth" then that would fuel his hatred against konoha and that in turn would help him become stronger and boost his skills....

He wasnt worried about sasuke.....madara dint WANT sasuke to destroy konoha at that time...that was always pein's job....he simply wanted to angry sasuke against konoha , especially its elders ....so then that hatred would fuel his growth...also it would make sasuke work with madara and then madara could use him for his own deeds..

2: in the recent manga chaps madara answers that question ...he says that he did that because he wanted to test sasuke....maby even have him kill a kage or two and make madara's job easier..

Just wondering but are you quoting me? because my post is in the quote but so is mrsticky005's.