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Old 10-16-2009, 06:11 PM   #21
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i think madara doesnt even need to do his moons eye plan
he could just kill the kages and lead every thing after he gets the power of the
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i think he wants peace but the one who did it right was pein
he ruled his one coutry and everything is good
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I think Madara wants peace in his own way.

Through World Domination and Destroying Everything maybe.
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In a sick twisted way Madara is a good guy. It's just his ethics are all wrong.
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well actually name sometimes madara has done bad
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well actually name sometimes madara has done bad
Taking Biju, fighting the 1st (For the Uchiha) and "Supposedly" send the fox to the leaf.
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Taking Biju, fighting the 1st (For the Uchiha) and "Supposedly" send the fox to the leaf.
yup and that he killed the hosts of the biju with no thought and than helping wipe out the Uchiha. also that he twisted emo-Sasuke further to hatred with his whole "let me tell you about Itachi and the Elders/ Danzo" story. he brought together a bunch of psychotic virtually immortal killers for hire... to basically kill as a team.
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Well taking the biju and killing their host can be the same thing.

Emo Sasuke was kind of like that before he met him. Madara just toying with him now

Some of those killers would of killed with out being in the akatsuki. Most of them could have killed hundreds of people with out any order. (akatsuki good thing)
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Just a theory: Maybe Madara is trying to get the world leaders to come together to form an alliance. Think about it, Madara is a common enemy against all the villages, so if everyone is busy fighting him, the villages are not busy fighting against each other. Peace. Madara is probably just making a very creditable threat to them to get them to unite. The cost of two human Jinkurri (sp) is nothing compared to thousands of people. But since this anime is titled "Naruto", I'm sure there will be a special case for Naruto and he won't be captured since Madara has obviously talked with Naruto and hasn't captured him when he could of easily.

What do you guys think? I tried not to make it long.
I see where your coming from but kinda seems like he went to a crazy extent to make it all Happen. I mean looks at all the things that have happend because of him up to this point, could that possibly be peace.
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What Madara has done that wasn't so nice:

1. Kill his own best friend
2. Take his brother's eyes
3. Deceived all the Akatsuki members
4. Attacked Konoha
5. Slaughtered Uchiha Clan
6. Deceived Sasuke
7. Plans to take Sasuke's eyes
8. Brainwashed Yagura
9. Officially Started the 4th great Ninja war
10. Captured and killed Jinchurikis
11. Wants to brainwash everyone via genjutsu
12. Wants Naruto and Sasuke to fight
13. Influenced Sasuke to attack Kages
14. Had Pain destroy Konoha
15. Manipulated Pain to his own advantage
16. Not very honest
17. Used Nine Tails as a weapon on Konoha
18. Started the "Bloody Mist"
19. wants world domination
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What Madara has done that wasn't so nice:

1. Kill his own best friend
2. Take his brother's eyes
3. Deceived all the Akatsuki members
4. Attacked Konoha
5. Slaughtered Uchiha Clan
6. Deceived Sasuke
7. Plans to take Sasuke's eyes
8. Brainwashed Yagura
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10. Captured and killed Jinchurikis
11. Wants to brainwash everyone via genjutsu
12. Wants Naruto and Sasuke to fight
13. Influenced Sasuke to attack Kages
14. Had Pain destroy Konoha
15. Manipulated Pain to his own advantage
16. Not very honest
17. Used Nine Tails as a weapon on Konoha
18. Started the "Bloody Mist"
19. wants world domination
You're going to have to break some eggs to make an omelet. Madara is not evil! I think he's just got some twisted intentions, but his ultimate goal is for peace.
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Actually believing Madara wants peace is worse than thinking that Danzo has "good intentions" for Konoha. Madara is (for the time being) THE bad guy. The manga couldn't make this any more obvious unless there was a large neon sign on his forehead that read "Evil". Madara is either just downright lying or being sarcastic. Madara makes the Nine tails look like a pretty decent guy...despite being a giant monster.

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Madara, Danzo, and the Iron Village are in league with each other.
Madara does want peace. But to reach this peace, he will have to trick people. Be that through genjitsu or a 4th world war. You will have to flip that neon sign over to reveal "Good guy".

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Madara wants peace....?

By turning the moon into a giant genjutsu eye and controlling everyone in the world?


Hmm...maybe. =D
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What Madara has done that wasn't so nice:

1. Kill his own best friend
2. Take his brother's eyes
3. Deceived all the Akatsuki members
4. Attacked Konoha
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6. Deceived Sasuke
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11. Wants to brainwash everyone via genjutsu
12. Wants Naruto and Sasuke to fight
13. Influenced Sasuke to attack Kages
14. Had Pain destroy Konoha
15. Manipulated Pain to his own advantage
16. Not very honest
17. Used Nine Tails as a weapon on Konoha
18. Started the "Bloody Mist"
19. wants world domination
Dont forget manipulating Itachi to destroy the Uchiha Clan.
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huh i dont get it...are u trying to saythat madara is actually trying to BRING TRUE PEACE TO THE WORLD???
Is that so farfetched? being an anime watcher I hardly know anything about madara yet, but thats what nagato was trying to do in the same basic manner. Why couldnt Madara?
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Is that so farfetched? being an anime watcher I hardly know anything about madara yet, but thats what nagato was trying to do in the same basic manner. Why couldnt Madara?
You have your answer in your post..You are an anime watcher...You don't saw what happen..Madara is not a good guy like Nagato in the end...Since the begining his only purpose is to have revenge...People say Sasuke is blinded by his emotion..well Madara is even more blinded by his ambitions...What he talking about is not peace...that's only a look a like peace..

(Maybe he do this because he's too Senile and he's tired of the way the world is...That's why he want everyone to be in his control...So He can finally sit and start to knit XD haha..just kidding but seriously..That guy is not a good dude...he's a Old Hangry Senile Uchiha who wants the world for himself XD)
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I'm just saying that its not completely out of the realm of possibility
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well for me it is...Madara cannot be a good guy.. Sorry...If he turned to be a good guys then I stop reading Naruto right now...I mean, He's so bad for too many reason..Nagato turned bad because of what happened to him.Madara could have been a really powerfull ninja of Konoha and the leader of the Uchiha but his ambitions blinded him too badly...You have a list of 20 bad things that mrstiky005 did and I think Is enough to proove that he's not a good guy..
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Lol, I hear you I was honestly trying to keep the debate alive for the opposers, like you and I said, I know nothing of whats to come, and if Madara turned out to be good, well then the only real enemy in the series has already died. (oro)
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Lol, I hear you I was honestly trying to keep the debate alive for the opposers, like you and I said, I know nothing of whats to come, and if Madara turned out to be good, well then the only real enemy in the series has already died. (oro)
It would be so weird Lol XD!!And a kinda impression of Deja vu (so many times..)

For Oro, I can't wait to him to be back again He's one of my best bad guys hehe!! Maybe for some unknown reason,He will join Madara purpose..But I doubt...( I talk about Kabuto with Oro cells)

But seriously,I think Kishi had enough of making bad people turn good...(Gaara,Zabuza,Itachi,Nagato...I think it's enough haha)
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Yeah, too many good bad guys kills the memory of the originals. If kabuchimaru becomes oro, but with kabuto's consciousness, it may be possible that he joins madara.
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