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well i spent hours reading NaruHina and NaruSaku dabates, discussions, interviews and all that stuff im still processing cuz there is a lot of material...... to much to put evidence here i even read the Shippu! Konoha Gakuen Den and (when Kishi explains everyting that happened so far in a different story, i think this one is cooler
that's just my theory, is not 100% accurate but i feel happy when i think of it and makes me smile and is nice to have those fantasies there :3
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Well ur for naruhina so ur smart
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So do people take Hinata's "I'll be holding your hand", Kiba's "You don't have to act so tough just because Hinata is here" and Naruto's general thought that Hinata is strong as an indication NaruHina is defiant?
As much as people state NaruSaku is ending and NaruHina is being worked on, nothing shows Naruto's feelings for Sakura are dimming and that he's growing romantic affections for Hinata. The development of NaruHina is as it always has been: on Hinata's side. I don't see NaruHina happening any more or less than NaruSaku. As far as Naruto concluding that Hinata is strong in chapter 558/559, he thought that back way in the Chunin Exam. There's not even any defiant sign he even remembers the confession. I'm not even going to state "he's too busy". As for SasuSaku, as much as Sakura loves Sasuke and this can be seen as the pairing being defiant, it ignores that Sasuke himself shows no love for Sakura. Ever. His previous thoughts of her being his precious team mate can be seen as Sasuke maybe having feelings for her (a thought I highly disagree on), but currently he has no thought of her as anything but an obstacle and there's no evidence to show his feelings will change. I'm all for the early comment that Naruto "deserves" (in a manner of speaking) Sakura's love. For the same reasons. He's selfless in that he understands and doesn't pressure against Sakura's feelings for someone else. As much as we wants those feelings to be towards him. Hinata "deserving" (again in a manner of speaking) Naruto is something I'm rather iffy about, however. Unlike Naruto's openly selfless deeds towards Sakura being countless times, Hinata showing open acceptance of Naruto's qualities, good and bad, can be counted on one hand. What I'm saying is that I can not compare Naruto's selfless deeds towards Sakura to Hinata's acceptance of Naruto's flaws when Hinata > Naruto has been mostly silent in comparison to Naruto > Sakura. It's fine to state Hinata has accepted Naruto for a long time and never judged against him, but most of her examples (save from written test, encouraging against Neji, saving him from Pain, knowing he was the real Naruto) went by unnoticed from Naruto. Most of her "is good for Naruto" qualities is shown though her inner monologue or when Naruto isn't around. In short, there's nothing for Naruto to even realise that Hinata is the better choice as opposed to Sakura.
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You just put it into my mouth: It'll be a "big surprise" (or attempt at one) by Kishi to "suddenly" make Naruto aware of Hinata's feelings. Funny enough, if we go by the pretty transparent (even by Kishi's own words; check wikia for Son Goku and Roshi from NARUTO) comparison between Naruto and Goku, the latter also got his wife "all of the sudden", even though they met long ago, and SHE was ready for it ever since. Oh, and she approached him after a world-importance battle vs a maniac that wanted world domination, aka Madara=Piccolo; ugh, both of them were actually "new versions of the old ones", wow. Oh again, both villains tried "COLLECTING them all" on some "magical" stuff. Also, Goku is as clueless as Naruto is on THAT subject, hehehe. Thus, Naruto=Goku and Hinata=Chichi (oh, and she's QUITE a "chichi" herself, hehehe If we add Sakura=Bulma (smart close female friend of the main guy) and Sasuke=Vegeta (avenger-gone-evil-then-back; enemy-rival-friend of the main guy; also Babidi=Orochimaru) respectively, this will make perfect sense, even if tainted by a little "plagiarism". I'm pretty confident on this, until I see anything ACTUALLY contradicting this. So far, nothing yet happened (and still lingered on) to contradict this view of cast. Seriously, nothing. Even Sasuke is now capable of reforming, sort of. And "love forgives everything", especially in a cartoon show. Last edited by koshej; 12-03-2012 at 07:26 AM. |
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OK.... i get the points to dont go beating the bush: Honestly i don't know what's gonna happen with both pairing SasuSaku and NaruHina maybe naruto gets his chance, maybe hinata gets her chance, idk, Naruto is a shonen so there won't be passional loving scenes of a whole chapter, still i hold onto NaruHina whatever happens if nothing happens i've doujinshis
(BUT I WONT LOSE FAITH NO SIR NO!)
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I've read wonderful fanfictions that make Kishi somewhat pale (I'm serious, even if it's taste-based), still, I want HIM to do the right thing, cause it's HIS world...
Oh, this was not just about a few characters, this was about major world-wide stuff AND also major characters. It's just that I'd be really pissed off, if he chooses to purposely make an utterly nice character only for her to be ditched or force-fed some last-moment way-out of her so-strongly-implied feelings. Don't want to deal nicely with nice characters - don't MAKE ones!!! Or you're simply a JERK!!! I would be perfectly content with a no-Hinata Naruto series (Sakura-for-the-laugh is enough) - but that was until the actual Hinata came to be. I hope you get my point. |
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I'll just stick in my repeatable 5 cents:
I couldn't care less about Naruto OR Sakura OR Sasuke OR Hinata. I DO care though for "nice people being treated nice". It was Kishi's OWN choice to make Hinata into what basically everyone claims to be a "nice person". With that as a common-fan-acceptance FACT, I must therefore choose for her to "have a nice happy ending" as my personal way of treating such fictional people. Which in her own-choice case is obviously NaruHina. As a result, to "make more people potentially happy", this also leads to SasuSaku, since I wouldn't want Sakura to be ditched either, even if she isn't a defined "nice person", but she isn't a "bad person" either. And now her own-choice throughout the series is obviously SasuSaku, so why not? Is this clear enough? |
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lol that's a nice point we don't want hinata to be ditched OR Sakura the best ending could be the one you say
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Can someone give me a logical reason why Naruhina should happen or is going to happen?
Something besides Hinata loves Naruto, Hinata has always loved Naruto, Hinata deserves Naruto, Hinata will never hit Naruto like Sakura does, Hinata will never lie to Naruto like that pink headed Sakura did, Hinata has bigger balloons than that flat chest, Hinata is cute, sweet, innocent, intelligent, strong, magnificent, useful, VERY important to the plot of the story, perfect all around and Sakura is none of those thing and she must die, Hinata is the princess of the Hyuga clan and Sakura just sucks, Hinata is like Kushina and Minato and Sakura has nothing in common with either of those two, Hinata did so much for Naruto while Sakura did nothing, etc. These are pretty much all the arguments that the Naruhina fans use. So can someone please give me a logical reason why Naruhina is going to happen? Besides the things I said above. Now since I asked that question I will tell you people why Narusaku should happen and is going to happen. First of all because Naruto and Sakura have something called development, they have a relationship, and they have the strongest bond in the “Naruto” story. They put aside their own selfish desires to make sure that the other one is happy. Naruto puts aside his own desires to make sure Sakura is happy and safe, Sakura puts aside her own desires to make sure Naruto is happy and safe. They had their ups and downs and each one of those moments brought them closer and closer and the bond between them got stronger. And the list goes on. Secondly and most importantly is that Narusaku goes with the story and one of the themes of the story which is to “Never give up”. Narusaku is part of that theme to “never give up”. The other two parings Naruhina and Sasusaku go against the story and that theme to “never give up”. Last edited by AgentShayd; 12-09-2012 at 10:46 PM. |
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Naruto and Sakura FINALLY become FRIENDS, which is a great step for Sakura, since she basically hated Naruto. There is nothing romantic from her standpoint, cause she obviously can't yet forget Sasuke (regardless of whether she still loves him). Now, Naruto also doesn't have romantic feelings towards Hinata, but they've been FRIENDS ever since, cause they were never in a state of hating each other, UNLIKE the uneven "relationship" he had with Sakura. Also, I think you forgot to mention that even as far back as Chuunin Exams, Hinata had a very realistic-yet-positive attitude towards Naruto: "you're a proud failure, not perfect, but never giving up". Sakura never looked at Naruto in this view, she started trying being friendly with him only recently, and even that can't be sure to NOT have a slight taste of "he's the only hope for Sasuke". So, yes, she accepted his friendship, but she never truly acknowledged him as a wholesome person - the imperfect proud failure he is. More, Hinata's "selfishness" was about her feelings towards Naruto, while Sakura's - about her feelings towards Sasuke, a totally THIRD person. Also, this "selfishness" led Hinata to nearly sacrifice her life to SAVE Naruto, while Sakura tried to KILL even the guy she "loves" - instead of never giving up on him, like Naruto STILL does. Sakura is a much worse failure feeling-wise, AND she didn't learn a bit from Naruto's nindo, unlike Hinata. It really seems that some fans can't view this objectively, seriously... |
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well.. yeah apart from you say that there arent other reasons, first of all, Sakura doesnt have a nindo, (for me she's boring she has that protagonism just because Sasuke -.-) and is kinda contradictory cuz when you say the thing they share is "never giving up" from this point: Hinata will never give up naruto so she's sharing naruto's nindo, now Sakura will never give up on Sasuke thats ALSO sharing Naruto's nindo, Naruto has his mind on Sasuke (his nindo) so kishi really f.... us up, because is a whole vicious circle that doesnt break with sasuke (cuz he wants to kill everbody and he WONT GIVE UP on that) so we cant for sure say "NaruHina is happening
" or "NaruSaku is happening ) is just wait and wait and wait.... until kishi-sama says "Ok now let's break this! (AND NARUHINA will happen! ) nah just kidding that's from my point of view" is until one of them happens OR NaruSasu happens and then we can say NaruHina fans: HA! now shut your mouths! we knew it !!! ) or NaruSasu fans: ._______. (i dont think there are fans of that shonen-ai ) but as i said: I WONT LOSE FAITH ON NARUHINA I PUT ALL MY HOPES ON THAT AND IT WILL HAPPEN KHYAAA!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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[QUOTE=Nostradamus;6374076]Can someone give me a logical reason why Naruhina should happen or is going to happen?
I can say the same for NaruSaku! Can you give me a logical reason besides Naruto USED to love Sakura. Let's face it he does not show his love for her as much as he used to. Plus the fact of the matter is that SAKURA DOES NOT LOVE NARUTO Trust me you do NOT want to see what is in spoilers. Let me save you a piece of your time DO NOT READ. it is outrageous and silly and a waste of time. Dont say I did not warn you!! Its just Naruhina fans not at their best Spoiler:
These are pretty much all the arguments that the Naruhina fans use. idk what fans you have been talking to So can someone please give me a logical reason why Naruhina is going to happen? Besides the things I said above. First of all because Naruto and Sakura have something called development, they have a relationship, and they have the strongest bond in the “Naruto” story. are you kidding? PLENTY of people have a stronger bond then them -Konan and Yahiko -Obito n RIn -Minato n Kushina -Jiryria n Naruto -Lee n Guy -Naruto n Kakashi -Jiryria n Tsuande -Choji n Shikamaru -Shikmaru n Temari They put aside their own selfish desires to make sure that the other one is happy. Naruto puts aside his own desires to make sure Sakura is happy and safe, Sakura puts aside her own desires to make sure Naruto is happy and safe. WHAT?!?!?! Sakura is SELFISH! WHen was she not selfish? She was selfish when -she forced the POAL onto Naruto -She told Naruto she loved him (a BIG FAT LIE) -She tried to kill Saskue -She FAILED to kill Saskue -Seh secretly went against her village to kill Saskue on her own -When she called out Naruto's name to save the village They had their ups and downs and each one of those moments brought them closer and closer and the bond between them got stronger. And the list goes on. what list? Secondly and most importantly is that Narusaku goes with the story and one of the themes of the story which is to “Never give up”. Narusaku is part of that theme to “never give up”. The other two parings Naruhina and Sasusaku go against the story and that theme to “never give up”. your joking right? Sakura gives up more than Hinata or Saskue. Hinata is ALWAYS training and she ALWAYS has love for Naruto Sakura does not train that much and she STill loves Saskue. She never gave up her love for him ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am guessing you are new here? I AM THE NARUSAKU DEFEATER!!! No NaruSaku fan has withstood a debate with me and I aim to keep it that way! Now for my reasons (lets look at naruto's Point of View) Naruto trusted Hinata. Naruto trusted Hinata to cheat off of her during the chunnin exam stage. Naruto respects Hinata more than Sakura. naruto was impressed with her stamina and tanking feats all from part one. Naruto went out of his way to cheer for her. Naruto and Hinata also have development. Naruto thought she was a werid girl but changed his mind after Hinata called him a good failure (or something like that ) this gave Naruto the confidence to beat Neji! If Naruto did not recieve those words from Hinata then Naruto would have lost the battle to neji.
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Yea another naruhina fan! There are power in numbers
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*facepalm*.............seriously, you guys..........
Gotta first point out that until Kishimoto makes it official that he doesn't have any kind of romantic feelings for her, I'm all up for NaruSaku, but even rooting for that pairing I can see what will happen in the end, NARUTO WON'T END UP WITH NEITHER HINATA OR SAKURA! No matter if he does become Hokage or not, I'm thinking he'll choose to stay alone, but to protect them! being with either, given how powerful he is, will be dangerous, as other ninja will try to get him, especially if he becomes Hokage, and we all know Naruto wouldn't want anything bad to happen to either girl because of him!
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Naruto liked Sakura and Sakura didn't like him > Naruto proved himself not a loser and Sakura changed her original opinion of him > now they have a close friendship. Hinata saw the real Naruto and gained inspiration from him and Naruto always just thought she was a weirdo > Hinata's determination in her fight with Neji showed Naruto that she was a type of person he liked > now they're friends. Both started with a uneven relationship, both have someone who's original opinion changed after witnessing a different side of the other and both currently have a relationship on the good scale. Quote:
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Guys, look...
There are FEW ways to look at this "problem": 1. If we don't care for each and every character's happiness, ANYTHING can happen, OR Naruto (and/or others) can even DIE. This leads us nowhere in our GUESSING, until Kishi makes it ACTUAL. So, this way is pointless. 2. If we do want each and every character alive and happy, WHAT then must be done in the end to enable it? The best choice is the one involving the LEAST changes to the current situation AND character emotional states. NOW (numbers are "weights" of changes): a. NaruHina + SasuSaku. Sasuke - must stop being a jerk (but he is on the way, with Oro's help [1]) and return Sakura's feelings (probably a HUGE change [2]). Sakura - must forgive Sasuke for his evil actions (but if she still loves him, it isn't hard [1]) and be sure that she loves him (in my opinion, no change needed [0]). Hinata - is already in love with Naruto [0] and shares his nindo [0]. Naruto - must let go of Sakura (hard to tell how hard it would be, but he does seem to be less attracted to her than before [1]) and grow more intimate with Hinata (he already likes her as a friend [1]). SO: 1+2+1+0+0+0+1+1=6 b. NaruSaku. Sasuke - no changes [0]. Hinata - must let go of Naruto (but she loves him ever since, so she must stop it entirely [2]) and not become unhappy from it (or find some replacement; since her life is an emotional disaster on itself, so [2]). Naruto - must still love Sakura (I'll be generous and say he still does [0]) and forgive her for all her hate towards him (truly forgive, so [1]). Sakura - must let go of Sasuke (truly and without regrets, thus [2]) and acknowledge Naruto (the same way Hinata did, which means to truly see him as the person he is, not how useful he is for her goals [2]). SO: 0+2+2+0+1+2+2=9 Wow, looky-looky, NaruSaku is like 50% more emotionally demanding (again, if we want ALL of them to stay happy) than NaruHina-SasuSaku. OK, I'm in for a barrage of "you were not honest with your numbers etc." So - do YOURS!!! Just remember, EVERYONE must end up HAPPY and balanced on what they currently feel or hope for (with no regrets lingering). Challenge issued!!! Last edited by koshej; 12-10-2012 at 04:32 AM. |
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