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[Shikamaru Nara]

Originally Posted by Kisame

In a balcony thing somewhat far away.

Try moving your feet, try moving your arm, I wonder what's faster.

Read and understand the manga, it's proof enough if you understand they way Kishi treats speed.

1. Reread manga
2. Don't think about BG logic
3. Try to pay attention to what Kishi is trying to say

Prove it. They didn't show the distance between panels.

Depends.

Nothing. What's he trying to say?

[Kisame]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

Prove it. They didn't show the distance between panels.

Depends.

Nothing. What's he trying to say?

Well try to infer the distance between panels. Every good reader know that when not givne the straight up facts you have to infer. It's obvious their right next to each other so Suigetsu would have had to travel.

Well for normal people it'd be the hands.

That regular foot speed in this manga is not enough to do a complete blitz once you reach a certain level. The only times Kishi has shown real blitzing was with people with insanse shunshin speed. On ch. 462 pg. 3 Darui even noted how Team Taka is all keeping up with Raikage.

[Phoenix Wright]

Hey look my point of comprehending the manga came into play!
Phoenix: Proving points that people don't think are points that come into play later so he can sound like a genius.

I needed something to say so I could come back into the debate but I'm not gonna be as active of a debater here than Kisame since I'm watching UNS2 Videos at the moment xD

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Kisame

That regular foot speed in this manga is not enough to do a complete blitz once you reach a certain level. The only times Kishi has shown real blitzing was with people with insanse shunshin speed. On ch. 462 pg. 3 Darui even noted how Team Taka is all keeping up with Raikage.

Actually it all depends on the opponent's reaction speed as well.

Did I not earlier state blitz is a bit of a broad thing?

Look at Raikage vs CS2 Jugo, CS2 Jugo barely reacted in time the same Raikage in Shroud 1 who at point blank evaded laser cannons.

And we all know Sasuke usually goes top speed everytime he charges. Darui just has good reaction speed. Which is expected of an Elite Jounin of Kumo.



As for Suigetsu he may reacted but its not like he wouldn't be able do anything at all, worse than CS2 Jugo.

It was C who said and basically he was talking about in the end Raikage is too fast for sharingan as well.



As for Tsunade being blized by Raiton Shroud Raikage actually Naruto Battledome people entertained that alot.

The only time they say Raikage not blitzing Tsunade is when Raikage is Shroudless.

[Kisame]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Actually it all depends on the opponent's reaction speed as well.

Did I not earlier state blitz is a bit of a broad thing?

Look at Raikage vs CS2 Jugo, CS2 Jugo barely reacted in time the same Raikage in Shroud 1 who at point blank evaded laser cannons.

And we all know Sasuke usually goes top speed everytime he charges. Darui just has good reaction speed. Which is expected of an Elite Jounin of Kumo.



As for Suigetsu he may reacted but its not like he wouldn't be able do anything at all, worse than CS2 Jugo.

It was C who said and basically he was talking about in the end Raikage is too fast for sharingan as well.



As for Tsunade being blized by Raiton Shroud Raikage actually Naruto Battledome people entertained that alot.

The only time they say Raikage not blitzing Tsunade is when Raikage is Shroudless.

Well of course.

Yes, but Blitz in it's real definition I'm pretty sure refers to being too fast for the opponent to even counter at all.

In the end Raikage was only too fast with his r2 Shunshin, Sasuke countered everything Raikage had to offer before that.

Perhaps but that's another site.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Kisame

Well of course.

Yes, but Blitz in it's real definition I'm pretty sure refers to being too fast for the opponent to even counter at all.

In the end Raikage was only too fast with his r2 Shunshin, Sasuke countered everything Raikage had to offer before that.

Perhaps but that's another site.

In a realm of fictional fight we should be a lot more general at times because technically this is all out interpretation. Just like history.

R2 Shunshin as in for Sasuke only more like? Sasuke was able to counter because he has top tier reaction speed plus with sharingan which really saved him so it is to be expected. It wasn't surprising.

Unless you have top tier reaction countering Raikage even in shroud 1 is very difficult.

I mentioned NBD because they got the best average of Naruto debators although they have their own unique set of trolling and problems.

There is no proof tsunade has top tier reaction at all. But powerscaling demands she should but all we have is a rusty tsunade against Kabuto.


How are you Kisame? Anything new?

[Kisame]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

In a realm of fictional fight we should be a lot more general at times because technically this is all out interpretation. Just like history.

R2 Shunshin as in for Sasuke only more like? Sasuke was able to counter because he has top tier reaction speed plus with sharingan which really saved him so it is to be expected. It wasn't surprising.

Unless you have top tier reaction countering Raikage even in shroud 1 is very difficult.

I mentioned NBD because they got the best average of Naruto debators although they have their own unique set of trolling and problems.

There is no proof tsunade has top tier reaction at all. But powerscaling demands she should but all we have is a rusty tsunade against Kabuto.


How are you Kisame? Anything new?

Yeah.

Yeah, it did help Sasuke out a lot, and I agree with your points, what I'm trying to argue against is a full out blitz. A lot of people would have a hard time countering for a long time but generally they should be fast enough to avoid a full on blitz by a footspeed r1 Raikage.

Yeah, they do have beter average, but I don't really know how their whole system operates.

Well yeah that's why I said non BG logic wise Tsunade should be able to react to Raikage.

Nothing much, oh yeah Zigs sign in on IM quick.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Kisame

Yeah.

Yeah, it did help Sasuke out a lot, and I agree with your points, what I'm trying to argue against is a full out blitz. A lot of people would have a hard time countering for a long time but generally they should be fast enough to avoid a full on blitz by a footspeed r1 Raikage.

Yeah, they do have beter average, but I don't really know how their whole system operates.

Well yeah that's why I said non BG logic wise Tsunade should be able to react to Raikage.

Nothing much, oh yeah Zigs sign in on IM quick.

Oh?

NBD is quite and interesting place but I am not so fond of it.
Dudemeister despises it as being an offshot of Konoha library.

Non BG logic as in possible Kishi logic?

IM? Maybe briefly.

[Kisame]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Oh?

NBD is quite and interesting place but I am not so fond of it.
Dudemeister despises it as being an offshot of Konoha library.

Non BG logic as in possible Kishi logic?

IM? Maybe briefly.

Really I thought you liked it there

Well I kind of prefer to combine the two, but people rarely do that.

Oh yeah about the thing in IM, you were right, it already happened and so soon.

[321zigzag3]

Its ok.

In 7 posts. I told you they are fast man.

[MysticGoten]

Can you change 'Android' to 'No.'?
And Dragon Ball to DragonBall.

[Pat]

Is this still being updated?

[321zigzag3]

There is always going to be at least for now short bursts of updating time while usually its still.

Mind you the wiki isn't perfect but we do out best including our laziness.

[Pat]

Oh silly Ziggy being lazy, gosh this thing is so old nowadays. About a year I think, oh nostalgia.

[321zigzag3]

Well the last updated on was on Saturday I believe.

[Pat]

Oh wow, that's sooner than I ever thought it had been. lol

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by MysticGoten

Can you change 'Android' to 'No.'?
And Dragon Ball to DragonBall.

Aren't there multiple Androids?

Originally Posted by Pat

Oh wow, that's sooner than I ever thought it had been. lol

[Wind Style Naruto]

Can you add Disgeaa to your wiki . Its video game series based mainly around demons as well as angels and humans.

Just list the main characters not he support/creatable characters.

I belive Disgeaa belongs in the top tier or mid tier list since the demon overlords, high rank angels, and even super humans in that game are capable of highly destructable abilities at planet or galaxy bustin levels. Not only that some of the characters abilities are amazing and even their weaknesses amazing and funny.

I know just list these characters:

1. Laharl
2. Adell
3. Mao
4. Etna
5. Flonne
6. Rozalin
7. Yuukimaru
8. Rasberyl
9. Champloo
10. Almaz
11 Vyers(Mid Boss)
12. Axel
13. Master Lamington(Seraph)
14. Overlord Xenon
15. Superhero Aurum
16. Prinny
17. Baal

Heres a wiki to help you: http://disgaea.wikia.com/wiki/Disgaea_Wiki

[NBT]

Why the freak is Baal below a Prinny where the censored is Zetta?

[Wind Style Naruto]

Originally Posted by NBT

Why the freak is Baal below a Prinny where the censored is Zetta?

I didnt list by power level if that was the case Baal be in the Top 5 plus Zetta is from a different universe and serves nothing but as cameo in Disgaea games.