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Old 09-18-2009, 05:47 PM   #1
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Gaara can actually relate to Sasuke more than Naruto can, and I honestly think he has a better chance of bringing Sasuke back than Naruto.

Naruto started his life completely alone, with no friends. But he found friends in Sasuke, Iruka, Sakura, and Kakashi, and he wasn't alone anymore. His story is the complete opposite of Sasuke's.

Whereas Naruto started out with nothing, Sasuke had everything Naruto didn't. He had friends, a family, and a big brother. He lost that when his big bro Itachi murdered his entire clan. He had the bonds, and he lost all of them. Naruto never experienced losing a bond, and even though he did experience the loss of Jiraiya's death, he had all of his friends to console him. Sasuke lost so many people, all at once, with barely anyone to console him. I honestly don't blame him for leaving the village and training to kill Itachi, but that's beside the point.

Gaara is more similar to Sasuke than Naruto. He started out nearly alone, but he had Yashamaru, his dad, and his big bro and big sis. Besides them, he had no one else. Just like Sasuke, Gaara suddenly lost Yashamaru, while at the same time discovering that all the times he'd thought they were friends, Yashamaru had really hated him. And he also discovered that it was his father who'd given Yashamaru the mission. He was alone, having the lost the person closest to him. But he was even worse than Sasuke, because instead of wanting to just kill his dad, or hating on Yashamaru, he just wanted to kill everyone in sight. SInce then, he's become a good guy, but I think that Gaara has a better chance of getting Sasuke to come back to the Leaf villlage, since he actually knows what Sasuke is really going through. Besides, think of how huge a plot twist it would be to see Gaara bring him back instead of Naruto. Who agrees with me?
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:59 PM   #2
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I SO agree with you. Thats why I was so happy to see Garra help him and try to tell him that, because it really does make more sense that way. Old Garra and the Sasuke we see now have ALOT of things in common as far as behavior so it's more realistic Garra could get through to him. And the thing is, we got to see Sasuke remember those words Garra spoke to him, then have Sasuke see who Garra had become now. I saw a glimps of hope on Sasuke's part when He didn't just blow off what Garra said(atleast at first). He actually replied with "So..? If I come back... What is there for me there?" It was like he was actually listening, unlike when Naruto would try and he would disregard anything he said right away. Thats kind of small, but for Sasuke thats HUGE, especially now. GO GARRA!
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Yeah I see your point here.
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I'm not the emotional type, but I have to tell you this. When Gaara shed a tear in 464, it got to me. I was so sad. But then he kicked butt by using his awesome sand jutsu and control. xD
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SPOILERS*** DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T READ MANGA CHAPTER 464

I agree Gaara can relate a lot more to Sasuke but if someone can bring him back it's Naruto. They've had a connection since their academy days and even if Naruto started with nothing and now has a lot, no one believes in Sasuke like Naruto does. Gaara can only do so much, like you saw in chapter 464 he's done and is now attacking, whereas Naruto has been trying to reach Sasuke for more than 3 yrs and even after talking with Madara still has hope. Besides where Sasuke is now, only someone as persistent and positive as Naruto could even hope to reach, like Pain said just because you can understand someone's pain it doesn't mean you'll see eye to eye (or something like that LOL ) Also if Gaara succeded in bringing him back to Konoha what happens to Naruto vs Sasuke?
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Also if Gaara succeded in bringing him back to Konoha what happens to Naruto vs Sasuke?
It is effectivly avoided and Madara doesn't win. lol j/k, kind of. I mean what Madara wants is for them to fight, so if it was avoided whatever Madara wanted to result from that wouldn't happen.
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It is effectivly avoided and Madara doesn't win. lol j/k, kind of. I mean what Madara wants is for them to fight, so if it was avoided whatever Madara wanted to result from that wouldn't happen.
True LOL but it would make more sense for Naruto to prove him wrong and change the cycle of hatred by getting Sasuke out of "the darkness"
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True LOL but it would make more sense for Naruto to prove him wrong and change the cycle of hatred by getting Sasuke out of "the darkness"
Yeah, that whole "cylce of Hatred" thing is the reason why Garra really getting through to him probly won't happen. That's what make's getting through to Sasuke(eventhough Sasuke doesn't listen to his words lol) Naruto's job.
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Naruto is turning into Star Wars if nobody has noticed haha Naruto = LuKe Skywalker, Sasuke = Darth Vader, Madara = Darth Sidious.... Sasuke will beat Naruto up and Madara will try to take the Nine tails out of Naruto... Sasuke will be like arggh I hate you Madara and he will sacrifice himself to take out Madara and save Naruto because he feels light that is still in him... Sounds familiar hmmm?
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Naruto is turning into Star Wars if nobody has noticed haha Naruto = LuKe Skywalker, Sasuke = Darth Vader, Madara = Darth Sidious.... Sasuke will beat Naruto up and Madara will try to take the Nine tails out of Naruto... Sasuke will be like arggh I hate you Madara and he will sacrifice himself to take out Madara and save Naruto because he feels light that is still in him... Sounds familiar hmmm?
lol, you know that is sounding quite firmilliar. I'm used to people comparing Sasuke's overpoweredness to Dbz, but now Starwars fits too XD
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i can see where your getting at.
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lol, you know that is sounding quite firmilliar. I'm used to people comparing Sasuke's overpoweredness to Dbz, but now Starwars fits too XD
Yeah I actually called what was going to happen when Nagato had destroyed Konoha with all of the ninja's dying like Kakashi.... I said on some thread a long time ago for a prediction that I could see them pulling a DBZ and wishing everybody back to life like with like dragon balls and look what happened haha
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lol, you know that is sounding quite firmilliar. I'm used to people comparing Sasuke's overpoweredness to Dbz, but now Starwars fits too XD
Doesn't Sasuke sort of remind you of anakin from Epsiode 3

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Yeah I actually called what was going to happen when Nagato had destroyed Konoha with all of the ninja's dying like Kakashi.... I said on some thread a long time ago for a prediction that I could see them pulling a DBZ and wishing everybody back to life like with like dragon balls and look what happened haha
lmao, nice! I think you maybe psychic,
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the show is dbz with worse fights and a better story if people haven't realize yet.
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You got me thinking there...

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Gaara leaving Sasuke alive and returning him would truly anger Raikage.
Knowing his impulsive way he'd probably have enough and declare war on Both.
We know Tsuchikage also has a dislike of Sasuke.
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Gaara will return Sasuke.
Raikage turning mad and declares War against Suna and Konoha.
Kumo will join forces with Iwa against the 2.
While that happens Kiri will stay out but will have a important role of finding out the truth about Madara and his role of Mizukage.
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this is true good theiry
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I think it would more be like a "combined-effort" of Naruto and Gaara.
Gaara definitely won't let Sasuke be killed by someone BUT Remember Kankuro said "Don't get personal". Then he shed a tear and brought his sand out.
So I think Gaara wants to fight him too.
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