Something I recently realized about chapter 464.

[Phenom]

Originally Posted by deidara330

Naruto = Stuborn. He's not going to give up that easily. He hasn't even seen Sasuke in a really long time. He's only heard about what Sasuke's done.

You don't honestly think that Naruto would still be trying to save Sasuke if he didn't make that promise to Sakura whenever Sasuke first left, do you? Right now, that is the only reason he still wants to save him. In one of the recent chapters Naruto is seen thinking about Sasuke and questioning why he is doing everything he is, and realizes that he doesn't have any idea who Sasuke is anymore. This is a huge sign that Naruto is starting to realize what needs to be done, but won't do it simply because he loves Sakura and wants to keep his promise to her.

The moment Sakura tells Naruto that she doesn't want Naruto to keep that promise anymore, the burden will be lifted from him and he can then choose to do what he actually wants to do, whether he decides to still attempt to save Sasuke or not will be entirely his difficult decision but he will most likely side with Sakura and the others.

[3littlepigs]

Originally Posted by Phenom

You don't honestly think that Naruto would still be trying to save Sasuke if he didn't make that promise to Sakura whenever Sasuke first left, do you? Right now, that is the only reason he still wants to save him. In one of the recent chapters Naruto is seen thinking about Sasuke and questioning why he is doing everything he is, and realizes that he doesn't have any idea who Sasuke is anymore. This is a huge sign that Naruto is starting to realize what needs to be done, but won't do it simply because he loves Sakura and wants to keep his promise to her.

The moment Sakura tells Naruto that she doesn't want Naruto to keep that promise anymore, the burden will be lifted from him and he can then choose to do what he actually wants to do, whether he decides to still attempt to save Sasuke or not will be entirely his difficult decision but he will most likely side with Sakura and the others.

I agree that his promise to Sakura is his most powerful reason to keep going after Sasuke, specially after everything he knows about him, but he still loves him like a friend/brother and if he was doubting what he should do before Madara showed up I think that changed after learning the truth. I'm not saying Sasuke's right but it does give Naruto a better understanding of who Sasuke is right now, I still think he'll go after him...

[Starfox]

Yeah I think so too. Naruto really thinks of Sasuke as a brother and really wants him back, even if he's going to a really risky situation. Naruto would do anything to kill Orochimaru and make sure he doesn't take Sasuke's body.

But Sasuke already killed Orochimaru, right? At least that's what I heard.

[wolfsfang]

Sorry if this has already been said but I didn't feel like reading through all the posts.

Ya Gaara had a family growing up (and still does have Temari and Kankuro) but I think he was always as alone as Naruto was. He was raised not as a son / brother but as a weapon and when it was shown he may pose a threat he was sentenced to death. Yes he had people surrounding him but he was still just as alone as Naruto was. I mean just look at the photograph it shows in the episode where it reveals his back story, it clearly shows his dad, temari and Kankuro all standing together like a family with Gaara off to one side all by himself.

so all 3 have suffered different forms of lonliness

Naruto was alone and had nobody

Sasuke had a family but then was forced to be alone

Gaara had a family but he grew up just as lonely as Naruto did

[Starfox]

Yeah you're right, but did Orochimaru get killed by Sasuke?

[wolfsfang]

Spoiler:

well he absorbed him but then had to use part of his Chakra to keep Orochi sealed so that he wouldn't take over...until Itachi did something that keeps him trapped forever (if forever lasts in the Naruto-verse cuz by now we all now anything could happen at any time)

Oh and as for what I was getting at in my last post. I was basically saying that in a way Gaara has more in common with Naruto than Sasuke (not just being hosts or the sons of the 4th Kage of their respective villages). Sasuke grew up loved and pampered, true his dad spent more time talking about Itachi but Sasuke's family still cared and respected him.

Gaara like Naruto grew up pretty much all alone. True for a while he had Yashamaru but he admitted that he always hated Gaara, and Naruto must have also had someone looking after him while he was growing up as it is impossible for a baby / toddler to look after themselves. So just because people were no doubt around them for their first few years until they could fend for themselves that does not mean they were not alone emotionally

[Starfox]

You're right Wolfsfang, but did Sasuke kill Orochimaru???

[Uotsan]

Originally Posted by Phenom

I don't understand how you can say Gaara relates to Sasuke more than Naruto at this point in the manga. At the end of the original Naruto, sure Gaara related to Sasuke more than Naruto did, however this far into the manga that is no longer true.

Spoiler:

Let's look at Sasuke, he had bonds with his family and then lost all of them in a night because of his big brother, he then swore revenge against him. Now for Naruto it is extremely similar. Naruto started out alone and then made friends, much like Sasuke did after his family was murdered, Naruto continued to form bonds with new people and strengthen his old bonds, so did Sasuke.

Then, in Shippuden, Sasuke finally kills his brother, while Naruto was still forming bonds and strengthening them. Then Jiraiya died, and Naruto finally understood what Sasuke meant all those years ago during their fight and could finally relate to what he went through. You reasoning for this not counting is because Naruto had friends to console him, but the only person who really talked to him was Iruka, who didn't say much, and Shikamaru. Shikamaru didn't console Naruto at all, he simply told him the way the world works when something like this happens and Naruto felt better afterwards because he knew that Shikamaru was right.

After this he also lost Kakashi, for a period of time, which strengthened how much he could relate to Sasuke because he had lost both of his father figures in a few weeks. Note: I call them father figures because they were both the closest thing to a father Naruto had.

So as of right now, Naruto has experienced a loss just as great as Sasukes and can fully understand him. The only difference between them is that Naruto can, and has, give up on revenge while Sasuke is to blind to.

Now that Naruto understands Sasuke so much better than he did during their last encounter, he has a much better chance of bringing Sasuke back.

Your right but you forgot to mention that he lost the village to during the pain arc and he thought Pain killed Hinata and that happen right in front of him.

[wolfsfang]

Originally Posted by Starfox

You're right Wolfsfang, but did Sasuke kill Orochimaru???

Spoiler:

NO HE DID NOT. Orochimaru's soul is immortal but it is sealed forever inside Sasuke in some dream state or something so he is pretty much dead but not actually dead...so yes and no really

[3littlepigs]

Originally Posted by Starfox

You're right Wolfsfang, but did Sasuke kill Orochimaru???

No, he didn't

Spoiler:

Itachi pretty much got rid of him

Originally Posted by wolfsfang

Spoiler:

NO HE DID NOT. Orochimaru's soul is immortal but it is sealed forever inside Sasuke in some dream state or something so he is pretty much dead but not actually dead...so yes and no really

Oro's soul is

Spoiler:

not immortal, Kabuto is an easy prey so his cells are taking over Kabuto's body. I don't think Oro's inside Sasuke anymore since the curse mark dissapeared after Oro was pierced by the sword.

[makaveli575]

Originally Posted by Phenom

You don't honestly think that Naruto would still be trying to save Sasuke if he didn't make that promise to Sakura whenever Sasuke first left, do you? Right now, that is the only reason he still wants to save him. In one of the recent chapters Naruto is seen thinking about Sasuke and questioning why he is doing everything he is, and realizes that he doesn't have any idea who Sasuke is anymore. This is a huge sign that Naruto is starting to realize what needs to be done, but won't do it simply because he loves Sakura and wants to keep his promise to her.

The moment Sakura tells Naruto that she doesn't want Naruto to keep that promise anymore, the burden will be lifted from him and he can then choose to do what he actually wants to do, whether he decides to still attempt to save Sasuke or not will be entirely his difficult decision but he will most likely side with Sakura and the others.

I have to disagree. I agree that his promise to Sakura is a BIG driving force for him but even if Sakura was to tell him she wants him to give up on Sasuke I don't think he will listen. Naruto gave his word to bring back Sasuke and I don't think he would ever give up until either Sasuke dies or he brings him back simple as that. I do think Naruto is starting to feel anger towards Sasuke(Is it me or is the nine tail's chakra leaking from Naruto in Chapter 459 page 11 bottom left pic when he is thinking about Sasuke?) but even so he would never go back on his word imo.

[SageNaruto69]

i thought of that. i told me cuzin,"how awesome would it be if gaara was able to bring back sasuke? naruto wouldve went nuts lol"

[Rasendori's Aesir]

not gonna happen

[ShikamaruGenius]

not immortal, Kabuto is an easy prey so his cells are taking over Kabuto's body. I don't think Oro's inside Sasuke anymore since the curse mark dissapeared after Oro was pierced by the sword.

right Itachi get rid of Oro In Sasuke.ur post make me wonder when we gonna have the chance to see oroButoXD again haha.I was really interesting about this and he just dissapear in a silence fear Lol.

[jeremyiscoolomg]

Yeah but naruto will deffanitly bring him back its to much a part of the story now for garra to succeed

[jeremyiscoolomg]

Originally Posted by makaveli575

i have to disagree. I agree that his promise to sakura is a big driving force for him but even if sakura was to tell him she wants him to give up on sasuke i don't think he will listen. Naruto gave his word to bring back sasuke and i don't think he would ever give up until either sasuke dies or he brings him back simple as that. I do think naruto is starting to feel anger towards sasuke(is it me or is the nine tail's chakra leaking from naruto in chapter 459 page 11 bottom left pic when he is thinking about sasuke?) but even so he would never go back on his word imo.

no that is just a picture of trees and snow above him