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Old 09-04-2009, 11:12 AM   #41
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Naruto could well be Senju. For one they repeatedly say in the manga that no one understands how naruto can withstand Kyuubis chakra. Meaning something in narutos blood is making him do something no one else can do.

Seeing as how only the First hokage could control the demons would lead anyone to believe that narutos unique ablility is connected to that. And 4ths ablility to put half the demons chakra inside naruto proves that he also has the some control over demons. Now i know the Third used they ability also but he was known as the master of almost all jutsu if not just alot. It's also been stated that the fourths sealing jutsu has never truly been understood.

But at the sametime, other countries have been able to put their demons chakra inside someones body too. So Naruto COULD be a senju. There is enough evidence to suggest he could be or could not be.
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Default Re: *Spoilers* Naruto is not a Senju. *Spoilers*

I think it is possible for him to be Senju but it is just as possible for him not to be Senju. As of now, I'm not believing it.
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Default Re: *Spoilers* Naruto is not a Senju. *Spoilers*

i havent seen a thread saying naruto was in senju???
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Naruto is not a Senju. His father was Minato Namikaze, and his mother was Kushina Uzumaki. His name is Naruto Uzumaki, and he isn't a Senju clan member. When Tobi spoke with him in the Land of Iron, Tobi said
"This is only the second time we've met, but I can tell the fire of the Senju clan dwells within you."
He does not call Naruto a Senju, he is simply stating that he has the Senju's fire. Hashirama Senju was Tsunade's grandfather, and Tsunade never had any children. Plus, I don't believe that either of Naruto's parents were confirmed to be of Senju heritage, or how either of their family names could change so quickly from Senju to Uzumaki or Namikaze. So since it was never actually confirmed or proven, I believe you shouldn't make threads saying that he is a Senju, or discussing Naruto using Senju heritage as a fact.

Its a theory..

and the Minato's name was Namikaze.

Dan's name could have been Namikaze, his last name was not revealed.
and so wasn't Tsunade's...

as long as you don't base something on the theory, I think the threads are fine
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Naruto isn't a Senju. There's just no way that he is, because like I said in another thread, there's allmost no way that Tsunade is Minatos mother, and we don't know any other female ninja from Senju clan that can be his mother, and I can't think of any other way that Minato could be related to the Senju clan. And if he's not related, that means that Naruto isn't from Senju clan, too.
I'm pretty sure since it's called the "Senju Clan" there were more than 3 people to begin with. Just because Kishi puts more detail on 3 Senju's in Madara's memories doesn't mean there weren't more just like with Uchiha. So technically if a woman from the Senju clan married another ninja from another less known clan wouldn't she take his last name? therefore Minato could very well be a descendant of the Senju clan. I do agree however that it's unlikely Tsunade is Minato's mom for lots of reasons. As for what Madara stated in the last chapter to me it kind of confirmed Naruto is a Senju BUT it could also just be he and the 1st are similar in how they do things...
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Naruto is not a Senju. His father was Minato Namikaze, and his mother was Kushina Uzumaki. His name is Naruto Uzumaki, and he isn't a Senju clan member. When Tobi spoke with him in the Land of Iron, Tobi said
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He does not call Naruto a Senju, he is simply stating that he has the Senju's fire. Hashirama Senju was Tsunade's grandfather, and Tsunade never had any children. Plus, I don't believe that either of Naruto's parents were confirmed to be of Senju heritage, or how either of their family names could change so quickly from Senju to Uzumaki or Namikaze. So since it was never actually confirmed or proven, I believe you shouldn't make threads saying that he is a Senju, or discussing Naruto using Senju heritage as a fact.
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Tobi also said that fate chosen the two clan to battle...so if it was a war between only and strinctly the Senju and the Uchiha...why would Naruto be picked to this war?he isn't a Uchiha so he must be a Senju descendent...also like I said a lot before, and already a lot of people said it...you don't need to be SENJU something, to be a descendent of the senju...
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besides nobody knows who the parents of the 4th are maybe his mom or dad or maybe one of his grandparents were from the senju clan
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I don't think so.
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I know, that Naruto isn't a Senju. He's more like the 'spirt' of the Senju.(for say) but people may disagree with you.

*like people still think Tobi is Obito regarless that it has been disproven. This may end up like that*
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dude as time rolls on blood thins and family create differnt surnames just cause you are related by blood does not mean you have the same surname many are realted to a particular family by blood but do not have the name in those days clans were expanding and didnt want to only have senju names maybe minato mother was a full bood senju and his father just another family in the land of fire you cant say naruto has no relation to the senju after seeing that they were powerfula nd very large and unlike uchiha not narcistic
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He does not call Naruto a Senju, he is simply stating that he has the Senju's fire. Hashirama Senju was Tsunade's grandfather, and Tsunade never had any children. Plus, I don't believe that either of Naruto's parents were confirmed to be of Senju heritage, or how either of their family names could change so quickly from Senju to Uzumaki or Namikaze. So since it was never actually confirmed or proven, I believe you shouldn't make threads saying that he is a Senju, or discussing Naruto using Senju heritage as a fact.
I dont belive that Naruto is a senju but saying he's a decendant well thats another story its possible that he or not and all that Tobi said was that he had the fire of the senju clan in him... theres just too little information
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"My battle with the first hokage, Senju Hashirama... was fated"

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"You two have been chosen by fate"

That was him confirming it. After rereading it i'm convinced that naruto is a Senju decendent. Thats pretty much him saying it.
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I'm pretty sure since it's called the "Senju Clan" there were more than 3 people to begin with. Just because Kishi puts more detail on 3 Senju's in Madara's memories doesn't mean there weren't more just like with Uchiha. So technically if a woman from the Senju clan married another ninja from another less known clan wouldn't she take his last name? therefore Minato could very well be a descendant of the Senju clan. I do agree however that it's unlikely Tsunade is Minato's mom for lots of reasons. As for what Madara stated in the last chapter to me it kind of confirmed Naruto is a Senju BUT it could also just be he and the 1st are similar in how they do things...
I agree. For right now Tobi could've meant that he shares the same will of fire or that he is a decendant of their clan. It remains to be seen. We will all have our theories and it is great to discuss. Until I read this I would've have never have thought Tsunade and Minato to be related...again a theory but an interesting one...
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:26 PM   #58
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Default Re: *Spoilers* Naruto is not a Senju. *Spoilers*

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Naruto is not a Senju. His father was Minato Namikaze, and his mother was Kushina Uzumaki. His name is Naruto Uzumaki, and he isn't a Senju clan member. When Tobi spoke with him in the Land of Iron, Tobi said
"This is only the second time we've met, but I can tell the fire of the Senju clan dwells within you."
He does not call Naruto a Senju, he is simply stating that he has the Senju's fire. Hashirama Senju was Tsunade's grandfather, and Tsunade never had any children. Plus, I don't believe that either of Naruto's parents were confirmed to be of Senju heritage, or how either of their family names could change so quickly from Senju to Uzumaki or Namikaze. So since it was never actually confirmed or proven, I believe you shouldn't make threads saying that he is a Senju, or discussing Naruto using Senju heritage as a fact.
Kishi never mentioned Minato or Kushina's family. The Senju Clan was huge, Hashirama Senju might not be directly related to Naruto, but that doesn't mean the two have no relation at all.

Well if you take into account everything that you just said than you can look at this the completely opposite way.
Since it was never confirmed, proven, or disproved then you shouldn't make threads saying that he is not a Senju.
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:38 PM   #59
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I dont belive that Naruto is a senju but saying he's a decendant well thats another story its possible that he or not and all that Tobi said was that he had the fire of the senju clan in him... theres just too little information
I think that Tsunade will be a key character to learn this...there must be a reason to Kishimoto didn't kill Tsunade...notice that never in Naruto universe, a character wasw in coma...when you consume all chakra you die, or if get near it, you will need to stay in bed for a few days...this was what we already saw...so this could mean that Tsunade has at least a last role to fullfill...right now Kishimoto thrown to us this almost confirmation that Naruto is a Senju descendent...and then Tsunade will came to clear things up...possibly other elder members like the advisors, the older Hyuuga's (cause I believe that they know a lot of Konoha history probably more than the majority of everyone thinks they know)...my guess is that for now this truth will be kept on hold, until the end of Sasuke Vs Raikage...then we will have that conversation between Naruto and Sakura, and probably when this conversation happens things will start beeing cleared up....
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