Shisui/Madara theory.

[deidara330]

My theory:

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I think that Danzo, having lost an eye in battle, decided to take a Sharingan off of Shisui's corpse to replace his eye. But he left the other eye, because he believed taking bothwould be suspicious. Madara, during his fight with hashirama, lost both his Sharingan and became blind. When he went to take the Sharingan off of Shisui's corpse to replace his own, he found that one had already been taken, so he took the other. Then, when he became the third Mizukage, he left his position, but still made decisions by controlling Yagura with Shisui's powers.

What do you think?

[Sabra Kusabana]

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This is an intreguing theory. One question though, when you say blind it implies being fully unable to see, which would mean he would have had to have help to be able to even try and take the eye/s from that corpse. So who would have been in a position to both know about an Uchiha death and willing to help him. I somehow don't think Itachi would have done it, but we don't know who Madara was in league with at the time other then and including the early Akatsuki. Though it does explain why we only ever see one eye for Madara.

[Nemico]

Originally Posted by Sabra Kusabana

Spoiler:

This is an intreguing theory. One question though, when you say blind it implies being fully unable to see, which would mean he would have had to have help to be able to even try and take the eye/s from that corpse. So who would have been in a position to both know about an Uchiha death and willing to help him. I somehow don't think Itachi would have done it, but we don't know who Madara was in league with at the time other then and including the early Akatsuki. Though it does explain why we only ever see one eye for Madara.

Yea i agree...
But good theory i like it and if that were true well thats just crazy... But we can expect the unexpected from Madara....

[yondaime]

Good theory

[JPSM]

Originally Posted by deidara330

My theory:

Spoiler:

I think that Danzo, having lost an eye in battle, decided to take a Sharingan off of Shisui's corpse to replace his eye. But he left the other eye, because he believed taking bothwould be suspicious. Madara, during his fight with hashirama, lost both his Sharingan and became blind. When he went to take the Sharingan off of Shisui's corpse to replace his own, he found that one had already been taken, so he took the other. Then, when he became the third Mizukage, he left his position, but still made decisions by controlling Yagura with Shisui's powers.

What do you think?

Althought it could be...think in this...Danzo already knew that taking an eye and seeing with it would consume chakra, cause this is Kakashi's problem, and this most likely was in his ANBU chart, so Danzo having acess to it, would know that he could not take the two eyes...cause if he did it, he would have to keep them cover...

Also Danzo, only could have taken Shisui eyes in the morgue (it would be too suspicious and we would have been informed that a suicide victim appeared without his eyes), so Danzo only could take out Shisui eyes after his body went to the Morgue....the hospital is in the middle of the village, guarded, so I doubt that Madara would be able to go there and remain unseen in the process...

About Madara, I believe that he became blind with the time, but my guess is that Madara unlocked the EMS...and called it eternal cause his eye sight didn't decreased (at least in a way that he could notice), but after 80 years, of using and abusing from his EMS, he started going blind, this could explain why the only techniques he can use are the one's when the foe its too close, for him to see it...and my guess is that this moon eye plan its in some sort of way for him to restore his eye sight and amplify its strenght...

[Sabra Kusabana]

Originally Posted by JPSM

Althought it could be...think in this...Danzo already knew that taking an eye and seeing with it would consume chakra, cause this is Kakashi's problem, and this most likely was in his ANBU chart, so Danzo having acess to it, would know that he could not take the two eyes...cause if he did it, he would have to keep them cover...

Also Danzo, only could have taken Shisui eyes in the morgue (it would be too suspicious and we would have been informed that a suicide victim appeared without his eyes), so Danzo only could take out Shisui eyes after his body went to the Morgue....the hospital is in the middle of the village, guarded, so I doubt that Madara would be able to go there and remain unseen in the process...

About Madara, I believe that he became blind with the time, but my guess is that Madara unlocked the EMS...and called it eternal cause his eye sight didn't decreased (at least in a way that he could notice), but after 80 years, of using and abusing from his EMS, he started going blind, this could explain why the only techniques he can use are the one's when the foe its too close, for him to see it...and my guess is that this moon eye plan its in some sort of way for him to restore his eye sight and amplify its strenght...

But if he took the eyes after death then they wouldn't of been active. The transplanted Sharingan only has an on setting, while appearently the transplanted Byakugan can be switched from one to the other of what we know the Sharingan cannot, which means Shisui had to have been alive when the eye was taken.

I've never noticed that about Madara/Tobi before, he doesn't move until the enemy is right on top of him, and we've really only seen him use melee skills. That actually explains that feature of the character nicely.

[JPSM]

Originally Posted by Sabra Kusabana

But if he took the eyes after death then they wouldn't of been active. The transplanted Sharingan only has an on setting, while appearently the transplanted Byakugan can be switched from one to the other of what we know the Sharingan cannot, which means Shisui had to have been alive when the eye was taken.

I don't know why but I have kept this idea that if you die with your sharingan activated, it will remain activated....

[Sabra Kusabana]

Originally Posted by JPSM

I don't know why but I have kept this idea that if you die with your sharingan activated, it will remain activated....

I suppose it's possible, but the technique requires chakra so I'm not sure if that would be that way.

[JPSM]

Originally Posted by Sabra Kusabana

I suppose it's possible, but the technique requires chakra so I'm not sure if that would be that way.

maybe untill the chakra runs out it keeps activated, and when the chakra starts fading, the sharingan starts losing some of the capabilities and strenght...this could explain the diferent aspect from Danzo Sharingan...

[Sabra Kusabana]

I can see how it might stay on for a while if the brain had been 'killed' while still sending the signals to use the ability. I'm also slightly concerned with the whole arm thing that was mentioned at the same time. I can see why you'd take the eye/s off an Uchiha, but I don't think that Konoha had the medical skill at that time to make that arm useful, which is why I don't get it. We haven't actually seen Danzo use it yet.

[mrsticky005]

My Theory:

Madara wanted revenge against Uchiha because they "betrayed him".
Danzo wanted to become Hokage and didn't particularly care for Uchiha.
Madara is missing an eye or one of his eyes doesn't work. Or perhaps neither work.
Danzo's eye either was missing, didn't work, or he just wanted Sharnigan.

Madara and Danzo made a deal:

Madara would kill Shisui and make it look like a suicide. Itachi would have to take the
blame. Madara would take one of Shisui's eye and Danzo would get the other.
Madara would get his revenge against Uchiha (and Itachi would again be blamed).
Having Sasuke live was probably never part of either Madara or Danzo's plan
but now that Sasuke is alive Madara wants Sasuke to kill Danzo because
Madara has no intentions of keeping his word with the plan.


Ever notice how Naruto never goes back on his word and Madara seems to be a liar?