Right or Wrong?

ThunderSpirit · 08-24-2009, 07:03 PM

Consider the following hypothetical scenarios and tell me what you think.

1. You are very poor, and you have done everything you can but you cannot find a way to feed your children. Your neighbor has an abundance of food and money, but they refuse to share any even with your starving children. Would you consider it morally acceptable to go and take some not all of your neighbors food by force?

2. Now take scenario one, but this time you have to physically harm the neighbor in order to obtain the food for your children.

3. This scenario is much the same as scenario one, but this time the neighbor has very little food, more than you have but not an abundance. In this case, if you take his food to feed your children, his children will starve. What do you do?

Thoughts?

Cupcake · 08-24-2009, 07:06 PM

1. Yes, I would do anything for my kids....
2. Maybe. Depends on just how bad the situation is.
3.Probably not. I would panhandle and starve myself before I would let any kid starve. It's just not right.

zerosameri · 08-24-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderSpirit

Consider the following hypothetical scenarios and tell me what you think.

1. You are very poor, and you have done everything you can but you cannot find a way to feed your children. Your neighbor has an abundance of food and money, but they refuse to share any even with your starving children. Would you consider it morally acceptable to go and take some not all of your neighbors food by force?

2. Now take scenario one, but this time you have to physically harm the neighbor in order to obtain the food for your children.

3. This scenario is much the same as scenario one, but this time the neighbor has very little food, more than you have but not an abundance. In this case, if you take his food to feed your children, his children will starve. What do you do?

Thoughts?

1) Not really right but not really worng
2) Wrong
3) Wrong

Kuroda Taishi · 08-24-2009, 07:07 PM

1. Yes
2. maybe
3. No

ShariKage · 08-24-2009, 07:07 PM

theyre all wrong but if your kids are dying, what are you gonna do?

Gamabunta · 08-24-2009, 07:08 PM

1. Yes if you have done everything.

2. Yes.

3. No.

Shkin · 08-24-2009, 07:13 PM

yes, only after you've done everything but still failed
maybe, if the need arises
no.

why your neighbor? why not the people from other places...that case you won't get arrested that easily...lol!

itachi/madara · 08-24-2009, 07:23 PM

no.
no.
no.

Amai Shikome · 08-24-2009, 07:24 PM

I think first of all I wouldn't expect them to just "give" me something out of the goodness of their heart, just because it may be the right thing to do. I would probably work out some kind of trade for for food. Whatever it takes, whether it be free labor around the house or whatever else would tempt them. I would go through great lengths to try and feed my kids. If worse comes to worse I will do what I have to do to take care of my kids but I don't think I would do it at the expense of another child's well being.

Sharingan_Kakashi_Hatake · 08-24-2009, 07:29 PM

i would go rob mcdonalds

Timoto · 08-24-2009, 07:29 PM

i honestly think that if you have to resourt to stealing then you've made terriable decisions with your life. You should have to suffer the conciquences of your actions. if your a parent you shuold have other resources in your life ... family friends donations ... but if it comes down to YOU not having anything at all.. i suppose all three would have to be considered. But keep in mind that your children might be hungry, but if your caught and put in jail or killed... then they're going to have more than a few nights of hunger (with no one to care for them at all) ??

brooksey · 08-24-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderSpirit

Consider the following hypothetical scenarios and tell me what you think.

1. You are very poor, and you have done everything you can but you cannot find a way to feed your children. Your neighbor has an abundance of food and money, but they refuse to share any even with your starving children. Would you consider it morally acceptable to go and take some not all of your neighbors food by force?

2. Now take scenario one, but this time you have to physically harm the neighbor in order to obtain the food for your children.

3. This scenario is much the same as scenario one, but this time the neighbor has very little food, more than you have but not an abundance. In this case, if you take his food to feed your children, his children will starve. What do you do?

Thoughts?

I would look for a shelter and not be an idiot for breaking into someones house.

I believe that is sin in itself if I have not tried my very best to find things I need before I go raging onto other people.

The solution would be to look for my other neighbors and my friends for help, not break into another family's house.

ThunderSpirit · 08-24-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kakashi4ever

I think first of all I wouldn't expect them to just "give" me something out of the goodness of their heart, just because it may be the right thing to do. I would probably work out some kind of trade for for food. Whatever it takes, whether it be free labor around the house or whatever else would tempt them. I would go through great lengths to try and feed my kids. If worse comes to worse I will do what I have to do to take care of my kids but I don't think I would do it at the expense of another child's well being.

Consider it a case in which there is no other way that you can get the food. All forms of bargaining have failed.

In addition, there are no other services that can help. For discussion's sake, assume that the world is in a state of anarchy, so it is every person for their self.

Amai Shikome · 08-24-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderSpirit

Consider it a case in which there is no other way that you can get the food. All forms of bargaining have failed.

It's kind of hard to imagine no other way to get food other than from my neighbor but if worse comes to worse I have to provide for my kids. I would probably steel from my neighbor and possibly harm them if I had to. I honestly don't think I could take from them if they had hungry children as well. But animal instinct screams "self preservation", even though I couldn't imagine myself doing such a thing.

ThunderSpirit · 08-24-2009, 08:17 PM

My answers would be:

1. Yes

2. Yes

The first two are quite simple to me. In both of these cases the neighbors children will not starve, you have simply done what was necessary to obtain what you needed for your children.

3. hmm, the dilemma here arises because to feed your children you must make others starve. What is more important your children or someone else's.

This third one is tougher. If you take the food for your children, then the neighbors children will starve. Obviously people place their own children as the highest priority, but it isn't right that any children should starve. This one is a quandary especially if you have no other options. I wouldn't want to take food from someone else's children for any reason, but if I had children....... Its a no-win situation, someone will starve no matter what decision you make.

This is all predicated on the idea that I have no other options. Its a purely hypothetical situation, of course. Although when civilization collapses in 2012, its gonna be every man/woman for himself/herself.

ItachiAnbu · 08-25-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderSpirit

Consider the following hypothetical scenarios and tell me what you think.

1. You are very poor, and you have done everything you can but you cannot find a way to feed your children. Your neighbor has an abundance of food and money, but they refuse to share any even with your starving children. Would you consider it morally acceptable to go and take some not all of your neighbors food by force?

2. Now take scenario one, but this time you have to physically harm the neighbor in order to obtain the food for your children.

3. This scenario is much the same as scenario one, but this time the neighbor has very little food, more than you have but not an abundance. In this case, if you take his food to feed your children, his children will starve. What do you do?

Thoughts?

It's all situational. If I benefit from stealing something, then to me, I'm doing the right thing. But to my neighbor, I'm doing the wrong thing. It all depends on where you stand; your point of view.

There really is no universal right answer.

mrgreypoop · 08-25-2009, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderSpirit

Consider the following hypothetical scenarios and tell me what you think.

1. You are very poor, and you have done everything you can but you cannot find a way to feed your children. Your neighbor has an abundance of food and money, but they refuse to share any even with your starving children. Would you consider it morally acceptable to go and take some not all of your neighbors food by force?

2. Now take scenario one, but this time you have to physically harm the neighbor in order to obtain the food for your children.

3. This scenario is much the same as scenario one, but this time the neighbor has very little food, more than you have but not an abundance. In this case, if you take his food to feed your children, his children will starve. What do you do?

Thoughts?

1. I would take the food.
2. I would take the food.
3. I really don't know what I'd do, I guess I need to think about it more later.

Kyuubi<3 · 08-27-2009, 09:28 AM

1. You are very poor, and you have done everything you can but you cannot find a way to feed your children. Your neighbor has an abundance of food and money, but they refuse to share any even with your starving children. Would you consider it morally acceptable to go and take some not all of your neighbors food by force?

I believe this is not right. The fact that your children are starving does not give you the right to take whats not yours. I would still do it though, even though it is wrong, in order to save my children.

2. Now take scenario one, but this time you have to physically harm the neighbor in order to obtain the food for your children.

I would.

3. This scenario is much the same as scenario one, but this time the neighbor has very little food, more than you have but not an abundance. In this case, if you take his food to feed your children, his children will starve. What do you do?

I would not.

AuroraxEve · 08-27-2009, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderSpirit

Consider the following hypothetical scenarios and tell me what you think.

1. You are very poor, and you have done everything you can but you cannot find a way to feed your children. Your neighbor has an abundance of food and money, but they refuse to share any even with your starving children. Would you consider it morally acceptable to go and take some not all of your neighbors food by force?

2. Now take scenario one, but this time you have to physically harm the neighbor in order to obtain the food for your children.

3. This scenario is much the same as scenario one, but this time the neighbor has very little food, more than you have but not an abundance. In this case, if you take his food to feed your children, his children will starve. What do you do?

Thoughts?

Yes.
Yes.
No.

Phoenix Wright · 08-27-2009, 04:55 PM

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.

08-24-2009, 07:03 PM	#1
ThunderSpirit Chunin Join Date: May 2009 Location: I'm a wanderer Posts: 1,073 Rep Power: 0	Right or Wrong? Consider the following hypothetical scenarios and tell me what you think. 1. You are very poor, and you have done everything you can but you cannot find a way to feed your children. Your neighbor has an abundance of food and money, but they refuse to share any even with your starving children. Would you consider it morally acceptable to go and take some not all of your neighbors food by force? 2. Now take scenario one, but this time you have to physically harm the neighbor in order to obtain the food for your children. 3. This scenario is much the same as scenario one, but this time the neighbor has very little food, more than you have but not an abundance. In this case, if you take his food to feed your children, his children will starve. What do you do? Thoughts? __________________ Every single one of us goes through life depending on and bound by our individual knowledge and awareness. And we call it reality. -Uchiha Itachi

08-24-2009, 07:06 PM	#2
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Shkin Veteran Chunin Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4,652 Rep Power: 9	Re: Right or Wrong? yes, only after you've done everything but still failed maybe, if the need arises no. why your neighbor? why not the people from other places...that case you won't get arrested that easily...lol!

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Amai Shikome Chunin Exam Proctor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Somewhere and Nowhere Posts: 1,895 Rep Power: 0	Re: Right or Wrong? I think first of all I wouldn't expect them to just "give" me something out of the goodness of their heart, just because it may be the right thing to do. I would probably work out some kind of trade for for food. Whatever it takes, whether it be free labor around the house or whatever else would tempt them. I would go through great lengths to try and feed my kids. If worse comes to worse I will do what I have to do to take care of my kids but I don't think I would do it at the expense of another child's well being.

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Sharingan_Kakashi_Hatake Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CATCH ME AT THE SKATEPARK!! Posts: 2,294 Rep Power: 0	Re: Right or Wrong? i would go rob mcdonalds __________________ I really need to get back on this thing more often...

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Timoto Chunin Exam Participant Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Gotemba Japan, Camp Lejeune NC USA Posts: 565 Rep Power: 0	Re: Right or Wrong? i honestly think that if you have to resourt to stealing then you've made terriable decisions with your life. You should have to suffer the conciquences of your actions. if your a parent you shuold have other resources in your life ... family friends donations ... but if it comes down to YOU not having anything at all.. i suppose all three would have to be considered. But keep in mind that your children might be hungry, but if your caught and put in jail or killed... then they're going to have more than a few nights of hunger (with no one to care for them at all) ?? __________________ It is better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees

08-24-2009, 08:17 PM	#15
ThunderSpirit Chunin Join Date: May 2009 Location: I'm a wanderer Posts: 1,073 Rep Power: 0	Re: Right or Wrong? My answers would be: 1. Yes 2. Yes The first two are quite simple to me. In both of these cases the neighbors children will not starve, you have simply done what was necessary to obtain what you needed for your children. 3. hmm, the dilemma here arises because to feed your children you must make others starve. What is more important your children or someone else's. This third one is tougher. If you take the food for your children, then the neighbors children will starve. Obviously people place their own children as the highest priority, but it isn't right that any children should starve. This one is a quandary especially if you have no other options. I wouldn't want to take food from someone else's children for any reason, but if I had children....... Its a no-win situation, someone will starve no matter what decision you make. This is all predicated on the idea that I have no other options. Its a purely hypothetical situation, of course. Although when civilization collapses in 2012, its gonna be every man/woman for himself/herself. __________________ Every single one of us goes through life depending on and bound by our individual knowledge and awareness. And we call it reality. -Uchiha Itachi

08-27-2009, 09:28 AM	#18
Kyuubi<3 Genin Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Gone. Posts: 304 Rep Power: 0	Re: Right or Wrong? 1. You are very poor, and you have done everything you can but you cannot find a way to feed your children. Your neighbor has an abundance of food and money, but they refuse to share any even with your starving children. Would you consider it morally acceptable to go and take some not all of your neighbors food by force? I believe this is not right. The fact that your children are starving does not give you the right to take whats not yours. I would still do it though, even though it is wrong, in order to save my children. 2. Now take scenario one, but this time you have to physically harm the neighbor in order to obtain the food for your children. I would. 3. This scenario is much the same as scenario one, but this time the neighbor has very little food, more than you have but not an abundance. In this case, if you take his food to feed your children, his children will starve. What do you do? I would not.

08-27-2009, 04:55 PM	#20
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