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Old 08-05-2009, 04:20 PM   #1
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I say Neji. Zabuza's Hidden Mist Jutsu is useless against the Byakugan, so Zabuza's element of surprise is gone. And, because Shippuden Neji is faster than Zabuza, if Neji can pull off 8 Trigrams 64 Palms, than Zabuza's water style ninjutsu is gone. And before anybody says that Zabuza would win only because Neji is close range and Zabuza is long range, Neji does have 8 Trigrams Air Palm and Mountain Crusher, which could very likely counter a Water Dragon, should Zabuza use it before Neji can disrupt Zabuza's chakra flow
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^Fanboyism? Byakugan can't see in the mist. Sharingan can barely if at all see in the mist as well, so what makes you think Byakugan can? I believe this was filler, but there was once a time Neji was in the mist and he couldn't see a thing.

Filler or no filler, Neji can't see in it. There's no way to prove it, but most likely sharingan is more advanced.

64 palms won't do much since he can only see about a meter in the fog. Zabuza can't see either, he can hear fairly well.

As long as Zabuza can hear Neji, it's over. It's over anyways. Water vortex is powerful, Neji can't escape it. Especially since he can't see where it's coming from.
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^Fanboyism? Byakugan can't see in the mist. Sharingan can barely if at all see in the mist as well, so what makes you think Byakugan can? I believe this was filler, but there was once a time Neji was in the mist and he couldn't see a thing.

Filler or no filler, Neji can't see in it. There's no way to prove it, but most likely sharingan is more advanced.

64 palms won't do much since he can only see about a meter in the fog. Zabuza can't see either, he can hear fairly well.

As long as Zabuza can hear Neji, it's over. It's over anyways. Water vortex is powerful, Neji can't escape it. Especially since he can't see where it's coming from.
That was not fanboyism, that was my opinion. Byakugan can see whether or not there's mist, that's one of its abilities. Sharingan may have evolved from Byakugan, but they are different eye techniques with different abilities. Shippuden Neji has a very strong Byakugan, so he could see through the Hidden Mist Jutsu, and as long as Neji can see Zabuza, Neji would win, because he speedblitzes Zabuza. If I thought Zabuza could beat Neji, I would say so, I'm not voting for him because I like him
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We just did this debate. Neji came out on top.

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Byakugun focuses not on the surrounding area, but on the chakra, the very energy of the enemy. The fog would not hide that energy, making it useless against Neji. Bottom line, Zabuza has no weapons he could use against Neji.
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I would have to say if neji pulls of 64 palms it is over. I would Consider Zabuza not to be stupid and not ever even knowing one of the most simple battle styles of Konoha's Hyuuga Clans.. Blocking Chakra with their attacks. Also IDK if it is all over if Zabuza Catches Neji in the Water Prison Jutsu. Do to one of the episodes in the search for w/e that bug was needed to find Sasuke was. Hinata was captured in an insect web and was able to emit chakra from a lot of places from her body to disrupt the chakra flow in the chakra flow. But the Hidden Mist Part is correct that the Byakugan cannot see very far to help no farther than he can reach. with that said Neji would probably try to blow away the mist with the technique mentioned by ByakuKage. Quickly I hope Neji would realize that is just failure and then he should probably go in to his stance. If we are near a water supply I would have to say Neji is at an extremely bad situation despite if his hearing is really good. It mainly comes down to how Zabuza would attack since Zabuza Forced Neji to play it Defensive. I do know the clones are not distinguishable in that fog do to he cannot see but it is just energy. Best bet for Zabuza is his water jutsu with water clones. IDK the ways water jutsu works if the user can be hurt by the water or how quick they can perform a second jutsu but the best bet Zabuza'sbest bet would have to be his Water Giant Water Vortex Jutsu mentioned by Trueborn_Uchiha11. He will from there either kill Neji or Put neji in the air from Neji dodging. from there best thing would be Waterfall or Dragon Missile to Kile or push Neji the water. Final stage Kill Neji while under water with the sword or rendering him of no movement underwater and killing him that way. Now that Zabuza's theoretical outcome in his favor has been said lets see how Neji Fairs if things would happen to go in his Favor. We all know that sword of Zabuza's is not so much a primary weapon as it is an oppurtunistic weapon for a foe who is faster than Zabuza. With Neji's 8 Trigrams Air Palm Neji can push his range to Mid to Semi Long. Neji should then keep advancing on Zabuza eventually closing the gap. If Zabuza swings that sword of his and is still holding it He will definately lose unless by a 1 in a billion chance Neji fails to counter that slow sword... Zabuza's Water Clone are rendered useless because the Byakugan can tell clones from the original. Zabuza is not a Long enough range fighter or the type of figther that Kidomaru from the Sasuke Retrieval are was. Zabuza does not have the accuracy that Kidomaru has to take advantage of the the 1-w/e Degree blindspot Neji had with the Byakugan. Nejis 8 Trigram Air Palm Renders just about all of Zabuza's water attacks useless. The chance of a water vortex does not exist since Zabuza's clone cannot sneak up on Neji since he holds the Byakugan (only works in the Mist) IDK the effect of the Air Palm or Mountain Crusher ( though that looks and sounds like it would have a violent effect on the victim : \ ) does to the opponent. But for every hit Neji lands the less and less chance has of winning... lol I love these types of threads so fun for the imagination.... hope I did not go into depth too much Tried to stay out of that part I make sure however to give both sides the benefit

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Neji was originally supposed to be the best genin to ever come from the hidden leaf so he has to get stronger than all of those before him...in theory anyways. Neji would win
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Neji was originally supposed to be the best genin to ever come from the hidden leaf so he has to get stronger than all of those before him...in theory anyways. Neji would win
so basically ur saying neji is stronger than naruto and sasuke and everyone woh came below him in his class.....that doesnt make a bit of sense and zabuza isnt part of the leaf village..and its off topic anyways neji wins bykugan can see chakra so he can track zabuza and neji much faster than zabuza anyways neji wins
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I am giving this one to Neji, Zabuza loses the element of surprise and can counter Zabuza's blade with rotation.
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neji is very strong but people dont give zabuza enough credit he was the boss of kisame at one point and let me ask you who wins neji or sugetsu. hmm...?

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