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Old 07-29-2009, 09:04 AM   #1
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We all know one thing about Naruto:
Everyone has or had a rival or a sworn enemy which is often someone they know well.

Sasuke-Naruto
Madara-Hashirama
Danzo-Hiruzen
Orochimaru-Jiraya
The list..goes on and on.

Now consider this:
???-Yondaime

If Yondaime is a Senju what I strongly believe then it would make sense that his Rival would be a Uchiha as well wouldnt it?
Here's what I think:
Shisui-Yondaime

Why I believe this?Im telling ya.
Shisui is the only member of the Uchiha clan who's face we havent seen.
Also we dont know his age nothing!!! (Except he was older than Itachi.So he could have been Minato's age.)
That doesnt fit into the storyline well.
Everyone and Every secret will be revealed.And sofar we saw nothing of him.
Im dead sure he will play a role later in the story.



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Old 07-29-2009, 09:11 AM   #2
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We all know one thing about Naruto:
Everyone has or had a rival or a sworn enemy which is often someone they know well.

Sasuke-Naruto
Madara-Hashirama
Danzo-Hiruzen
Orochimaru-Jiraya
The list..goes on and on.

Now consider this:
???-Yondaime

If Yondaime is a Senju what I strongly believe then it would make sense that his Rival would be a Uchiha as well wouldnt it?
Here's what I think:
Shisui-Yondaime

Why I believe this?Im telling ya.
Shisui is the only member of the Uchiha clan who's face we havent seen.
Also we dont know his age nothing!!! (Except he was older than Itachi.So he could have been Minato's age.)
That doesnt fit into the storyline well.
Everyone and Every secret will be revealed.And sofar we saw nothing of him.
Im dead sure he will play a role later in the story.



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maby we havent see his face yet bt th konoha police force had said that they had found his body with the suicide note,besides i dont think minato really had a rivalary with any1 ....he was hokage fr very short period of time ......besides i dnt thiinkhe wuld be itachi's age because itachi is sasuke's(whos naruto age) bro and yondaime is naruto's dad ..hw can they be the same age?
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:14 AM   #4
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maby we havent see his face yet bt th konoha police force had said that they had found his body with the suicide note,besides i dont think minato really had a rivalary with any1 ....he was hokage fr very short period of time ......
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Yeah..the same police force from the clan that planned a rebellion.
Everyone does in Naruto.Or even an sworn Enemy such as:
Shikamaru-Hidan

and Im not talking about being a Hokage he could have had a rival before he became it.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:14 AM   #5
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It is possible, that an Uchiha is yondaime's rival,
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:14 AM   #6
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We all know one thing about Naruto:
Everyone has or had a rival or a sworn enemy which is often someone they know well.

Sasuke-Naruto
Madara-Hashirama
Danzo-Hiruzen
Orochimaru-Jiraya
The list..goes on and on.

Now consider this:
???-Yondaime

If Yondaime is a Senju what I strongly believe then it would make sense that his Rival would be a Uchiha as well wouldnt it?
Here's what I think:
Shisui-Yondaime

Why I believe this?Im telling ya.
Shisui is the only member of the Uchiha clan who's face we havent seen.
Also we dont know his age nothing!!! (Except he was older than Itachi.So he could have been Minato's age.)
That doesnt fit into the storyline well.
Everyone and Every secret will be revealed.And sofar we saw nothing of him.
Im dead sure he will play a role later in the story.



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That's a great theory
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Probably is true but we wont know for sure...
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Old 07-29-2009, 11:25 PM   #9
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Its a true possibility, but then again..If Yondaime was a Senju, then wouldn't Naruto be part Senju? Or at least have Tsunade as his guardian, since she IS a Senju herself..She is the first hokage's granddaughter.

And with Minato and Shisui being rivals, it IS indeed a good possibility, but then again, Itachi was 13, and Shisui was who he considered "an older brother". So he might have been maybe 17-18, maybe even 19. Minato was young when he died, so there is really no solid evidence about your theory YET.

Sigh. Had to put it as a spoiler JUST in case..
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We all know one thing about Naruto:
Everyone has or had a rival or a sworn enemy which is often someone they know well.

Sasuke-Naruto
Madara-Hashirama
Danzo-Hiruzen
Orochimaru-Jiraya
The list..goes on and on.

Now consider this:
???-Yondaime

If Yondaime is a Senju what I strongly believe then it would make sense that his Rival would be a Uchiha as well wouldnt it?
Here's what I think:
Shisui-Yondaime

Why I believe this?Im telling ya.
Shisui is the only member of the Uchiha clan who's face we havent seen.
Also we dont know his age nothing!!! (Except he was older than Itachi.So he could have been Minato's age.)
That doesnt fit into the storyline well.
Everyone and Every secret will be revealed.And sofar we saw nothing of him.
Im dead sure he will play a role later in the story.



Your opinion?
I agree.
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I am also a strong supporter of the theory that yondaime was a Senju, and I think it would make sense that his rival was an Uchiha.
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We all know one thing about Naruto:
Everyone has or had a rival or a sworn enemy which is often someone they know well.

Sasuke-Naruto
Madara-Hashirama
Danzo-Hiruzen
Orochimaru-Jiraya
The list..goes on and on.

Now consider this:
???-Yondaime

If Yondaime is a Senju what I strongly believe then it would make sense that his Rival would be a Uchiha as well wouldnt it?
Here's what I think:
Shisui-Yondaime

Why I believe this?Im telling ya.
Shisui is the only member of the Uchiha clan who's face we havent seen.
Also we dont know his age nothing!!! (Except he was older than Itachi.So he could have been Minato's age.)
That doesnt fit into the storyline well.
Everyone and Every secret will be revealed.And sofar we saw nothing of him.
Im dead sure he will play a role later in the story.



Your opinion?
Keep in mind that yondaime got famous during one of the great shinobi wars. Maybe the war was so timeconsuimg that he didn't really get time to find a real rival.

Also, since he was about as strong as the 1st Hokage was, chances are that he already disposed of his rival a long time ago.
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Minato is probably a bit older than that, not to mention there is no proof to him being a Senju.

If minato had a rival, it wouldnt be some minor character mentioned one time.
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The 4th is NOT a Senju.
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Thats debatable. Notice she said "IF".
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Dont forget that shisui Uchiha was quick like Minato, He had the body flicker technique, and if itachi wouldnt have killed him shisui would prob. be in the running with minato for the 4th hokage
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Dont forget that shisui Uchiha was quick like Minato, He had the body flicker technique, and if itachi wouldnt have killed him shisui would prob. be in the running with minato for the 4th hokage
The body-flicker technique is NOTHING compared to Minato's teleportation. Its only a D-rank move, and just moves him 5 feet at most. Even Gaara had a body-flicker technique.
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We all know one thing about Naruto:
Everyone has or had a rival or a sworn enemy which is often someone they know well.

Sasuke-Naruto
Madara-Hashirama
Danzo-Hiruzen
Orochimaru-Jiraya
The list..goes on and on.

Now consider this:
???-Yondaime

If Yondaime is a Senju what I strongly believe then it would make sense that his Rival would be a Uchiha as well wouldnt it?
Here's what I think:
Shisui-Yondaime

Why I believe this?Im telling ya.
Shisui is the only member of the Uchiha clan who's face we havent seen.
Also we dont know his age nothing!!! (Except he was older than Itachi.So he could have been Minato's age.)
That doesnt fit into the storyline well.
Everyone and Every secret will be revealed.And sofar we saw nothing of him.
Im dead sure he will play a role later in the story.



Your opinion?
ok 1st
hw can yondaime be a senju?............i mean if he was y wuld he change his name to namikaze.............and besides all the senju clan have black hair(i kno this reasoning is dumb bt still usually people frm a clan have the same features.......u kno lik schiha have their hair which lines their face )minato has yellow hair and blue eyes.......and y wuld he deny his senju roots?..i dnt kno minato being a senju sounds a little far fetched to me
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hw can yondaime be a senju?............i mean if he was y wuld he change his name to namikaze.............and besides all the senju clan have black hair(i kno this reasoning is dumb bt still usually people frm a clan have the same features.......u kno lik schiha have their hair which lines their face )minato has yellow hair and blue eyes.......and y wuld he deny his senju roots?..i dnt kno minato being a senju sounds a little far fetched to me
Tobirama(2nd Hokage) had silver hair. Tsunade has blonde hair.
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ok yea srry i frgt........................bt stilll dsnt make sense why minato wuld nt tell any1 tht he was a senju.......even jiraya never mentioned no one ever did.......................jiraya wuld have told .............i mean they wuld have hinted it sumwer at least ....................
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ok yea srry i frgt........................bt stilll dsnt make sense why minato wuld nt tell any1 tht he was a senju.......even jiraya never mentioned no one ever did.......................jiraya wuld have told .............i mean they wuld have hinted it sumwer at least ....................
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What would have happened if it came about that Minato was a Senju and a Hokage?The Uchiha already planned a rebellion.
Also possible that he didnt know himself to a certain point of his life.
And thats why thh third didnt want noone to find out about Naruto's true heritage.If the Uchiha who still under surveillance and guard of the black ops would have found out that the fox is sealed inside a Senju some might have wanted to use that.Cmon their Uchiha and planned a rebellion they know about Madara who controlled the fox and could have misused that.


Thats just a though.
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