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Old 10-12-2013, 05:11 AM   #1
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Both are bloodlusted and healthy with full chakra.

Battleground is where Naruto fought the six paths and the starting distance is the same.
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Old 10-12-2013, 07:27 AM   #3
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If they are full chakra can't Pain just use his massive ST or CT.
I suppose he could possibly survive ST seeing how his lightning armour is most likely a better defence than Katsuyu
Though I can't think of a way for him to break out of CT, as the kyuubi had to go into 8 tailed mode (the mode without skin) to break out of that. He could destroy the orb like Itachi said, though he has no long range attacks I can think of and he is not as smart as Itachi. That means CT is a game winner right?
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:45 AM   #4
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Preta absorbs his lightning shroud if he gets close.

Raikage gets soul sucked. He has no genjutsu resistance feats.
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Preta absorbs his lightning shroud if he gets close.

Raikage gets soul sucked. He has no genjutsu resistance feats.
Since when did Pain use genjutsu anyway?
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Old 10-12-2013, 10:05 AM   #6
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Whenever he interrogated people, closed off people's minds(On every dead body), placed seals in their minds, or used Hell Path.

Soul rip is kind of a genjutsu but kinda not. Either way, it was powerful enough that it was going to work on cloaked Naruto and KB. No reason it wouldn't work on 3rd.
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Whenever he interrogated people, closed off people's minds(On every dead body), placed seals in their minds, or used Hell Path.

Soul rip is kind of a genjutsu but kinda not. Either way, it was powerful enough that it was going to work on cloaked Naruto and KB. No reason it wouldn't work on 3rd.
I don't think that was genjutsu.
1. The interogation thing would not have worked on Shizune as she was like Sakura and had great chakra control and likely would have broken out of genjutsu
2. How does that help in a battle against someone? It only works on dead bodies
3. Isn't closing of someones mind the same as placing a seal?
4. How was hell path a genjutsu, Killer B saw it and he managed to break out of MS genjutsu.

Don't agree that it's a genjutsu but yeah, it would work on him.
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3RK should take this. The only legitimate threats are Preta and Human Path. Everyone else just gets brute force stomped. And Human Path needs to get into melee range, which is suicide, same for Preta. And because he wasnt shown using it people usually forget, but TRK is also the inventor of black lightning, which is an extremely long ranged attack. Not to mention, even without their shrouds the Kumo Kage family are all extremely durable and physically adept. Even if Preta did manage to suck of 3RK's shroud he would just get his face smashed in the next second. then 3RK would just reactivate it and move on.
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I don't think that was genjutsu.
1. The interogation thing would not have worked on Shizune as she was like Sakura and had great chakra control and likely would have broken out of genjutsu
2. How does that help in a battle against someone? It only works on dead bodies
3. Isn't closing of someones mind the same as placing a seal?
4. How was hell path a genjutsu, Killer B saw it and he managed to break out of MS genjutsu.

Don't agree that it's a genjutsu but yeah, it would work on him.
It was genjutsu. He read the minds of his opponents before ripping their souls out of their body. It even worked on Shizune, even with her chakra control. He got the info he needed and then ripped out her soul.

There are several ways to use that to his advantage, least of which is to read the 3RK's mind and see how he managed to damage himself in his fight against Gyuuki.

Human Path and Naraka path are both capable of using it.

Then you have Gedo and Phantom Dragons, which there is no way the 3RK could resist that, considering the method in which he was sealed away as an Edo.

And someone already said before. He can't break out of CT, no reason to assume that he could.

Preta Path renders his cloak and his Hell Stab ineffective.
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It was genjutsu. He read the minds of his opponents before ripping their souls out of their body. It even worked on Shizune, even with her chakra control. He got the info he needed and then ripped out her soul.

There are several ways to use that to his advantage, least of which is to read the 3RK's mind and see how he managed to damage himself in his fight against Gyuuki.

Human Path and Naraka path are both capable of using it.

Then you have Gedo and Phantom Dragons, which there is no way the 3RK could resist that, considering the method in which he was sealed away as an Edo.

And someone already said before. He can't break out of CT, no reason to assume that he could.

Preta Path renders his cloak and his Hell Stab ineffective.
I suppose have no evidence to back up my point

Would he need to do that, if he is able to control him long enough to read his mind then surely he has won already

That didn't really answer my point

Didn't that technique need all akatsuki members to use quickly and it still took days

I was the one who said that

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Nagato used the phantom dragons alone against Hanzo.
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Nagato used the phantom dragons alone against Hanzo.
That was Nagato though
We are talking about the 6 paths of pain who may be under control of Nagato but have not used the same abilities.
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since trk dont use senjutsu i think pain will win this one because he can absorb any ninjutsu..
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That was Nagato though
We are talking about the 6 paths of pain who may be under control of Nagato but have not used the same abilities.
Bah. I hate that argument. Pain used every single ability of Nagato's for the most part.

But since there's no true counter to it, I won't argue it. I don't like fallacies.
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Genjutsu argument is moot. He gets close to 3RK he's dead...instantly, brutally stomped.
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It's as if people act Deva Path doesn't exist.

Standard distance is 50 meters.

Also Human Path abilities are ninjutsu not genjutsu. All Rinnegan abilities are classified as ninjutsu.
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I don't see how delving into the mind and putting up menter barriers isn't considered genjutsu. Where is this classified? It's not labeled anything, but it seems like common sense to me.
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I don't see how delving into the mind and putting up menter barriers isn't considered genjutsu.
Something that is similar to Yamanaka's clan family jutsus. They aren't genjutsu, rather they are ninjutsu as well.

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Because the entire rinnegan repertoire revolves around ninjutsu. Genjutsu causes illusions or something similar along those lines even if stretched.

Human Path doesn't.
It just reads your mind and then rips your soul.
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I agree that he can use genjutsu, but it's like how Kakashi can "use" genjutsu. He probably understands it and has a few techniques, but he it isn't the kind of thing that's combat ready, like MS genjutsu. That being said, there's no evidence it would even be strong enough to work, if that were the case it would have been a nice counter to Naruto who didn't have the Kyuubi to break him out back then.
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That being said, there's no evidence it would even be strong enough to work, if that were the case it would have been a nice counter to Naruto who didn't have the Kyuubi to break him out back then.
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