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Old 08-18-2013, 09:12 AM   #1
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This is my first time posting a thread like this, so sorry if it isn't exactly what you expected guys.


Prep Time: Both sides have 12 hours to prepare themselves for the upcoming battle.

They have considerable knowledge about eachother, but not 100% knowledge.

Orochimaru has changed his body again, his chakra is 100% and he is as strong as ever.
Sasori has 100% too and he has also made a new poison. He is in the Hiruko puppet, and has all the abilities that he had before, same applies for Orochimaru.

Orochimaru cannot summon Manda, but he can use the Eight Branches Technique. No other restrictions.

The two opponents with fight until one of them dies. No running away.

They fight at the bridge where Naruto transformed into V2 in the battle vs Orochimaru, they are 15 meters from exchanging fists and kunai.
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This is an awesome thread dude!!! its better than my first thread for sure!!!

Well I've never seen sasori fight before, but I know he's all puppets and poison and stuff. Orochimaru is versatile like hell. He's got a jutsu for everything. If he's as strong as he's ever been, he wins this one hands down!!!
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Hey dude, welcome to the battlegrounds.

I'd go with Orochimaru in a tough fight. He has the speed to match 4-tails Naruto while weakened, and even go so far as to play with him. He has a pretty serious poison resistance too, but even if he got poisoned, he could shed his skin. That's the biggest thing, anything Sasori does, Orochimaru can more or less repair.

He can go underground to avoid Iron Sand to an extent, and he has a reach that can keep him from having to have a close-range fight with him. But speed is the first reason I put Orochimaru above Sasori.

I don't see what Sasori could do to Hydra either, since it squashed the Uchiha Hideout like a bug and took a Totsuka sword to do any damage.

Then you have Rashomon for projectiles, boss snakes for puppet distraction, and nobody can plan like Orochimaru. 12 hours of prep is considerable, considering he completely remade the Konoha Attack plan in a matter of hours when Kimmimaro became ill and he was forced to face the 3rd alone.
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Well sasori was defeated by chiyo and sakura... surely orochimaru can match that!!!
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Well sasori was defeated by chiyo and sakura... surely orochimaru can match that!!!
That's because Chiyo and Sakura were literal counters to Sasori and plus Sasori was supposedly wanting to die in the end.

Although the sad part is that if he spammed Iron Sand Drizzle he would have won.




Although I see no strong counters to Hydra.
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Ok so that wraps it up...
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That was also PnJ regarding Chiyo and Saukra.
Sasori wanted to to die, so is it not reasonable to believe that he was never 100% trying the whole time?
Iron Sand, Water guns that can cut through rocks, flamethrowesrs, rotating blades, ability to switch bodies, 100 puppers = GG.
High difficulty but I am going with Sasori, as Orochimaru can shed his skin Sasori can switch bodies with his 100 puppets.
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Only just realised edo tensei is not allowed to be debated
I am not making it up, just using it from a different source of the same series, but didn't realise this was just manga feats.

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rashomon blocks sand drizzle/bullets

The bullets can just bounce of the rashomon and around the arena, you know that right? plus before Orochimaru even knows what Sasori is doing the bullets will already be heading towards him.

thanks for informing me

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Oro cant summon 1,000snakes from his mouth....he can summon
10,000 snakes!!!

Numbers don't mean anything, 10,000 Zetsu clones vs Naruto could be a point to prove that.

So Sasori does not have power in his numbers. It's 10,000 vs 100 so the puppets are outnumbered 10 to 1.

The snakes are not even that fast. I am sure Sasori is faster then Oro's snakes.

Also Oros sword is super long and can cut through anything. So the puppets or chakra threads will be cut with ease

It didn't cut through Naruto in four tails mode, and all that is, is chakra and blood I think, not 100% on that though.

Not to mention Oro can go underground to avoid things or blow away puppet attacks like posion or weapons or the pupppet itself

How will he blow the puppets away when he is underground?

No evidence suggests Orochimaru is immune to Sasori's poison, though that's a common misconception for most fans of Orochimaru.




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rashomon blocks sand drizzle/bullets

The bullets can just bounce of the rashomon and around the arena, you know that right? plus before Orochimaru even knows what Sasori is doing the bullets will already be heading towards him.

since when can the bullets bounce off the wall? Once it hits the wall they will just fall to the ground. You are seriously underestimating Oro's reaction time.
Chp. 295 (starting pg6) Oro was able to summon Rashmon AFTER Naruto fired off a TBB


I don't keep up with the manga so I didn't catch that fair enough, although the speed of a bullet compared to TBB is still debatable, unless I am missing something



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10,000 snakes!!!

Numbers don't mean anything, 10,000 Zetsu clones vs Naruto could be a point to prove that.
True. But 10,000 zetsu vs Neji would end in favor of the zetsu. If your going to compare or use examples can you use realistic ones please. Plus Naruto can make more of himself so that is a poor example. Anyway the gap in power between them is nothing ilke zetsu and naruto compared to Sasori and Oro.

My point was only the fact that in certain situations numbers are irrelevant, I wasn't staging it as a gap between powers, I am just saying numbers can sometimes be irrelevant especially when Oro's snakes are not even that fast.

What we do know
1-there are power in numbers
2-Oro has the advantage in numbers
Advantage:Oro

Does having more people mean you will win...NO
Does it help..YES


I didn't say it would make him win, yes it gives him an advantage, although a minor one as his snakes are pretty slow.


So Sasori does not have power in his numbers. It's 10,000 vs 100 so the puppets are outnumbered 10 to 1.

The snakes are not even that fast. I am sure Sasori is faster then Oro's snakes.
proof? Snakes are fast. Manda for example was quick especially for not having legs. You do realize Sasori (like most puppetmasters) are stationary fighters. Sasori has 0 speed feats.

Your comparing his generic multiple snake summon to Manda, of course there is going to be a difference, I do know that in the arena where Sasori fought Sakura and Chiyo (which was a pretty big arena) that he was able to switch bodies, which were almost the whole length of the arena in a matter of seconds, it took the snakes ages to get to Naruto, also because the snakes are moving in one big number they are rather clumsy and are slowed down.

Also Oros sword is super long and can cut through anything. So the puppets or chakra threads will be cut with ease

It didn't cut through Naruto in four tails mode, and all that is, is chakra and blood I think, not 100% on that though.

true...but what does that matter? Sasori and its puppets are nothing compared to Kyubbi chakra

Plus that sword again is not really that quick, there is no guarantee it would land a hit on Sasori, I am not saying it definitely won't, I am just saying assuming it would is a bit stupid.

Not to mention Oro can go underground to avoid things or blow away puppet attacks like posion or weapons or the pupppet itself

How will he blow the puppets away when he is underground?
I didnt say he would do it at the exact same time. I gave 2 different situations. He can go underground to dodge or blow away an attack

How does he blow away the attack? Sasori logically can use his fan, flamethrowers, 100 puppets and poision swords at the same time. Again I am not sure if Oro can blow all of them away but oh well.

No evidence suggests Orochimaru is immune to Sasori's poison, though that's a common misconception for most fans of Orochimaru.
he can shed his skin or switch bodies or spit out a new Oro. Plus Kakashi said posion was practically useless when Sakura tried to kill Sasuke

But senbon drizzled in poision lasts for a while it lasted for at least 20 seconds, so Oro either switched body and get's his fresh body poisoned as well, or he tanks multiple thousand poisoned senbon before switching out.




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To get logical, he uses Wood style on The wooden puppet. And he has his arms back 1more.
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This has been debated a lot, and Sasori wins most of the time.
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