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Old 07-08-2013, 11:02 AM   #41
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I stick to my order. Everyone thinks Danzo is weak when he's a tie with 3rd... 2nd hokage died to 20 weak ninja. Any other hokage would've pwned 20.

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Old 07-08-2013, 01:33 PM   #42
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Let me think.
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I did.
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So how would Hashirama beat Minato?
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:38 AM   #45
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Twenty Weak ninja? They were elite hunter nin......
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Compared to the other hokages that hype fails to compare to the others

Minato is too fast for Hashirama
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:26 PM   #47
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Nah. Minato can't beat 1st, it's been proven and pfft. Any other hokage can beat eleite nin. Maybe not 3rd because we don't know his strength but he only killed 5 of them or like 7 I forget.
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tobirama keeps getting shafted.

According to naruto wikia hes very adept to space time ninjutsu and is the strongest water style user of the series
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tobirama keeps getting shafted.

According to naruto wikia hes very adept to space time ninjutsu and is the strongest water style user of the series
So far he is manga hype and nothing more as of this point.

Hopefully Tobirama does something insane.

Well we were about to with Tobirama's finger until Hashirama stopped him.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:18 AM   #50
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I couldn't agree more.
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no doubt its the 1st hokage
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Well, yes but we also want to know the others. ATM my list is.
Harshima
Minato
Danzo
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Minato namikaze, I believe, is the strongest of them all...
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Nah. Minato can't beat 1st, it's been proven and pfft. .
How and when has it been proven? How does Hashirama beat one of the fastest characters in the series?

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tobirama keeps getting shafted.

According to naruto wikia hes very adept to space time ninjutsu and is the strongest water style user of the series
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no doubt its the 1st hokage
How does Hashirama beat KM Minato?

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Well, yes but we also want to know the others. ATM my list is.
Harshima
Minato
How would Hashirama beat Minato when Minato is too fast for Hashirama to hit him? Even if Hashirama himself is fast his wood style is not. Can you please explain how Hashirama beats Minato in a 1v1 fight?
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Kakashi would be stronger than Danzo or Tsuande. He would use kaumi to warp them into another dimension
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Minato namikaze, I believe, is the strongest of them all...
agreed

FYI-If minato does not have KM then I agree that Hashirama would win
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The first hokage was able to beat every single tailed beast one on one, with his raw power. He even beat madara while he had the 9-Tails..
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How and when has it been proven? How does Hashirama beat one of the fastest characters in the series?


and?


How does Hashirama beat KM Minato?





agreed

FYI-If minato does not have KM then I agree that Hashirama would win

I like Minato, I do but he's very tricky with his moves very strong and fast. His wood can become at high speeds and he can make tons making it almost impossible to dodge. Minato would put up a fight but he would run out of chakra before he could beat the first hokage. Minato knows that he can't beat the first hokage, he has more raw strength than the 9-Tails
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Lets look at there feats and how the hokages can deal with them.

hashirama has wood style on a great level then any other ninja. Sage mode to power up his wood style. Weakness kakashi S/T jutsu.

tobirama has FTG, Water Style on a level of its own, impure world, weakness (FTG is to slow to avoid Kakashi s/t jutsu.

Hiruzen has little to no feats. cant avoid S/t jutsu.

tsunade cant avoid s/t jutsu.

Danzo cant avoid s/t jutsu with no feat proving he will reappear in the real world with izungi.

Minato FTG insane speed feats, KCM mode, Summoning toads.

by feats the only one able to avoid kakashi's s/t jutsu is minato. we cant say tobirama can still use FTG from the other world because that feat hasn't been proven.
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Ok lets look at other feats. removing Kakashi's S/t for now.

hashirama has no speed feats to prove he can match minato. minato can tag anything he touchs with a ftg tag. so how will be even touch the 4th? once hashirama gets tag he is beheaded.

danzo has 11 lives but has no skills to touch minato in battle.

Hiruzen no feats to prove he can beat minato. let alone KCM mode.

tsunade will run out of chakra and then she will die.

kakashi's only way to beat minato has already been proven inaffacted jutsu against minato.

tobirama has no feats to prove he can beat minato. edo's will just get sealed.

Minato by feats is the strongest he is OP with KCM mode and FTG
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By hype and feats Hashirama takes all of them.

Just because Kakashi can defeat potentially anyone in here with Kamui doesn't always mean he is superior all round.
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By hype and feats Hashirama takes all of them.

Just because Kakashi can defeat potentially anyone in here with Kamui doesn't always mean he is superior all round.
He has more feats then most of them.

Explain how hashirama avoid kamui?
Explain how tobirama avoids kamui?
Explain how Hiruzen avoids kamui?
Explain how tsunade avoids Kamui?
Explain how Danzo avoids Kamui?
Explain how Naruto avoids Kamui?

You can't say Naruto avoids it with speed because once Kamui hits you speed cant help you. until proven otherwise.

Tobirama is either too slow at activing the FTG or he moves through the void at a slower speed to avoid Kamui.

no one other then minato has shown the skill to avoid that jutsu.

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He has more feats then most of them.
More feats doesn't mean necessarily superior.
Its also about the quality.

Think about also Manga portrayal.

Minato could barely seal half of Kyuubi. Hashirama casually defeated it and Perfect Susanoo.

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Depends. Hashirama can easily replace him self as the latest chapter seems to suggest against Juubito's blitz attempt.

But other than Kamui, Kakashi is much inferior to Hashirama in all round.

Hashirama will always be the much stronger character.


What you say doesn't change what I said earlier. All you doing is banking on Kamui argument.

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Tobirama was not part of my argument.

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Explain how Hiruzen avoids kamui?
Hiruzen was not part of my argument.
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Tsunade was not part of my argument. Moving on.

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With Izanagi on he can.


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Have you not read the part when Naruto's immense speed feat, Kakashi thought he was seeing Minato? He was literally blitzed.
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