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Old 11-04-2013, 06:54 AM   #641
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Or we can all NPC Valar. Or Maiar, and move continents around for lelz.
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Frankly, Gandalf doesn't do much with magic. >.>
Neither does Saruon, or Saruman, or Radagast.
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Valar don't have kids

Sauron threw entire navy's ground melted Ghil Galads face and gave Elendil radiation poisoning with his dark chi...

Gandalf caused a few lightening storms..and a hurricane and napalmed a hill

they don't do much magic but when they do..hah\


as to the fourth age Aragorn invades the middle east and China and parts of Africa and destroys the Sauron/Morgoth worshipping culture and tears down the serpent cults towers...unites the old world under westernese rule...and then dies of old age at two hundred and some...his son rules in peace while some bored rich Gondorian kids start practicing the Morgoth worship faith to be cool kids...and the dumbasses blunder into something that within a thousand or so years destroys their culture

then you have the complete collapse of all civilization everywhere..ands its rebirth in China, India and the fertile crescent
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I am amazes every time I remember that Tolkien's verse is made to be some sort of myth for the real world, and that it takes place on Earth in the past.
And it's high fantasy.
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I am amazes every time I remember that Tolkien's verse is made to be some sort of myth for the real world, and that it takes place on Earth in the past.
And it's high fantasy.
it was a very popular thing to do in the old days several fantasy writers were doing it at the time.

Robert E Howard and HP lovecraft and Arthur Conan Doyle I think were the ones who pioneered it and tolkien took it running and made it into his spectacular epic.
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Sauron threw entire navy's ground melted Ghil Galads face and gave Elendil radiation poisoning with his dark chi...

Gandalf caused a few lightening storms..and a hurricane and napalmed a hill

they don't do much magic but when they do..hah\


as to the fourth age Aragorn invades the middle east and China and parts of Africa and destroys the Sauron/Morgoth worshipping culture and tears down the serpent cults towers...unites the old world under westernese rule...and then dies of old age at two hundred and some...his son rules in peace while some bored rich Gondorian kids start practicing the Morgoth worship faith to be cool kids...and the dumbasses blunder into something that within a thousand or so years destroys their culture

then you have the complete collapse of all civilization everywhere..ands its rebirth in China, India and the fertile crescent
I'm curious as to whether istari would still exist after the end of the fourth age or if they all said "screw it" and left

Another thing that makes me curious is if the tolkeinverse equivelent of the americas and south pacific were populated during the second, third and fourth ages and by who?
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I'm curious as to whether istari would still exist after the end of the fourth age or if they all said "screw it" and left

Another thing that makes me curious is if the tolkeinverse equivelent of the americas and south pacific were populated during the second, third and fourth ages and by who?
Radagast may very well be the only Istari left in ME - the blue wizards either failed or succeeded (and considering the host of the east was much weaker than it could have been it seems to my mind they did in fact succeed) the brown wizard may have been the only one who failed besides Saruman

if you buy the "lesser" istari lost road stuff maybe a few dozen weak maiar in human flesh endured but its doubtful

as to them, probably a mix of the surviving elements of ancient and primitive men some Avari and maybe a fringe Numenorian colony or two

edit- we know that aside from the Celts and the Basque peoples that European native cultures were destroyed by Eastern and southern humans fleeing a cataclysm...likely some of them were from the Americans as well - this happened around fifteen thousand years ago...if Tolkiens work was updated to modern historical understandings..that could be the fall of Gondor and the united old world due to vast armies of American and pacific Duneiden and their regular human allies fleeing the ice age (or end of one)
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Me: *googles dunedain*

- *clicks link to lotr wiki*

- full page undissmissable ad for a big twilight box set pops in over the wiki article.......

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Numenorian exiles and their watered down descendants basically

who are still pretty ubber
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I figured that out after closing and reopening the link to the wiki article

But come on!!! You have to admit that that occurence was rage worthy. No?
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Im gonna post soon, gonna get everyone to pull out and we are going sailing on my boat :P
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Anyway. Gonna post soon.
Also, IWD, I'm reading the Lost World now for school.
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In the Lost Tales it seems to imply that they have "Houses", meaning like, god-like followers or kids.
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I think that's more along the lines of "spiritual children".

Don't think the valar actually reproduce
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They were served by the Maiar and Elves.
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Ah. So "those from the house of Tulkas" refers to Maiar then?
Because a lot of this went on without the Elves' participation.
Also, I returned the Silmarillion. Should get it next week.
And, also, Tulkas = god of anger-management and bad-assery?
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Ah. So "those from the house of Tulkas" refers to Maiar then?
Because a lot of this went on without the Elves' participation.
Also, I returned the Silmarillion. Should get it next week.
And, also, Tulkas = god of anger-management and bad-assery?
Tulkas is a badass, kinda like Achiles + Beowulf turned into a god and given divine physical power.

THe houses are the houses of great elf branches: Noldor, Teleri and Vanyar.
Like the house if Finwe, Ingwe, Elwe.
Each elf family had a Vala who liked them the most.

I think that's the case
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Er, um...
Noldor/Noldoli is Aule's favorite, I know that.
I'm super confused. I was told by Mr. Christopher Tolkien that the Teleri were the later Vanyar.
And then there are the Solosimpi...?
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Also, I returned the Silmarillion. Should get it next week.
And, also, Tulkas = god of anger-management and bad-assery?
Tulkas is the bro...the pro wrestler the Rock/Steve Austin in the verse' pI picture the Valar and Elves who serve him are all massive over the top hams chewing scenery left and right and bro fisting..

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Noldor/Noldoli is Aule's favorite, I know that.
I'm super confused. I was told by Mr. Christopher Tolkien that the Teleri were the later Vanyar.
And then there are the Solosimpi...?
yup pretty much he kept playing with the names...but the Vanyar are almost an entirely different "species" than the rest of the elves- comparing a Teleri to a Vanyar is comparing a Neanderthal to a modern human..

Solosimpi were proto Teleri and the Vanyar were Teleri in the early drafts

these drafts also had Morgoth using an army of dragon Gundams that fired plasma at mountains...so you..know...he probably had a few too many conversations with Asimov or Heinlein
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I found the Silmarillion! There's going to be alot of reading going down this week. And next week, I will come back smarter and with a better understending of LOTR.
And I noticed that no one has posted in the RP thread within the past week....
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