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Old 06-25-2013, 06:27 PM   #81
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Minato is above Naruto.. And it's Bijuu Mode for him too, not just KCM

Onoki isn't that fast IIRC. I mean he can hold his own

What feats put BM Minato over BM Naruto?
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Its not bad, its just becoming one of those tier debate threads that rarely achieves anything in the longer run due to constant arguing.
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Running or moving there is no difference. The point is he out distanced himself from the attack while it was in motion. It was clearly speed because the famous speed lines surrounded them to illustrate both were moving fast. Furthermore like I said it is a panel not a live motion event. This much is fact.

He literally was in madara and kurama face at the start of the event.

Madara yells you are not getting away. Bijuudama being fired.

The bijjuudama chasing Harishima while he was in motion.

Harishima stops and performs a jutsu while the bijuudama is coming at him.

Nothing in that scene depicts Harishima as being slower than the bijuudama while everything point to him being thay fast. Nevermind how far he was overall from them.

As for him being faster than A of course is. Also you are using a match where Madara was i penly playing around. His perfect susanoo strikes were fast and the fact he could counter a raging naruto tells you how fast he was. Some stuff he could have easily countered. Basically he said he was too lazy to do so. He is sitting down looking at the fight with the juubi with no worries. It is clear he is not truly serious yet.

As for the timeframe part why would a timeframe be needed in a singlr verse debate. The only thing that matters is feats and depiction here.

You did prove however why naruto characters don't need to fly. If that was jump.
In front of kurumas face not in their face as we can still kurumas entire face even though its many times larger then hashi (just look at gamabunta). Hashirama already had some distance judging from this.

Hashirama was already moving before the bijuu bomb was even charged.

Madara chased hashirama through the valley/forest. hence the 'you are not getting away' followed by madara/kuruma rampaging through the valley and hashirama running/jumping away from THEM not the bijuu dama.

Then while hashirama is still moving madara goes ' f this ' and fires the bijuu bomb(while hashirama is still moving)

Hashirama still moving sees the bijuu bomb catching up to him he lands and uses kuchiyose. He didnt outrun anything. If he kept running he wouldve been nuked hence he had to use rashomon to not get nuked.

You have the panel where the bijuu bomb is behind hashirama, then a panel where madara says something. Then the panel with hashirama landing and using kuchiyose.

There was no outrunning involved madara aimed the bijuu bomb at an already moving/fleeing hashirama cause he was tired of chasing him. hashirama knew the bijuu bomb would get him and he reacted to it.

And no hashirama jumped from some flying debris.
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In front of kurumas face not in their face as we can still kurumas entire face even though its many times larger then hashi (just look at gamabunta). Hashirama already had some distance judging from this.

Hashirama was already moving before the bijuu bomb was even charged.

Madara chased hashirama through the valley/forest. hence the 'you are not getting away' followed by madara/kuruma rampaging through the valley and hashirama running/jumping away from THEM not the bijuu dama.

Then while hashirama is still moving madara goes ' f this ' and fires the bijuu bomb(while hashirama is still moving)

Hashirama still moving sees the bijuu bomb catching up to him he lands and uses kuchiyose. He didnt outrun anything. If he kept running he wouldve been nuked hence he had to use rashomon to not get nuked.

You have the panel where the bijuu bomb is behind hashirama, then a panel where madara says something. Then the panel with hashirama landing and using kuchiyose.

There was no outrunning involved madara aimed the bijuu bomb at an already moving/fleeing hashirama cause he was tired of chasing him. hashirama knew the bijuu bomb would get him and he reacted to it.

And no hashirama jumped from some flying debris.
Bro you are grasping at straws. The fact that Harishima was moving while the bijuudama was moving is the only thing that matters. You see it went miles casually while moving at something that is clearly highspeed. The fact it never blew harishima ass up tells you he was either moving equal to or greater to it. Considering he had time to stop and perform a summoning only adds fire to it. Mind you he was in the direct path of it.

Also like I said he started off next to kurama and depicted to be fired on after Madara said a sentence. You and everyone else act like Madara let him runaway whilr holding his nuts and yelling. That is not the case. Especially when their is a big ass panel with the bomb on his trail moving fast. So what exactly are you arguing when most feats dont come no clearer.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:39 AM   #87
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^ dude.

If hashirama did in fact outrun a bomb that went to coast to coast in blink of an eye then it would mean hes faster then anything in the series which is clearly not true as he did not get to the battlefield first.

Sir you fail in your own logic.
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Lol no sir you fail. I point blank said Minato is faster. Minato casually blocked the juubi bijuudama and Kurama's. Then there is the fact Naruto also blocked such rounds in BM from the juubi.(nevermind the fact he is kurama.)As did Bee who dodged the laser version of it Harishima's feat just gives a front seat view of how fast a bijuudama really is.

This whole debate of a simple ass scene is pointless because of tge fact multiple top tiers speedsters have similar feat. Also pretty sure harishima was catching them before that scene with his wood style or something like that.
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Hashirama gained enough distance on the bijuu bomb between panels to summon 5 rashomon... between him and the bomb.

What is so difficult to understand?

If he stopped running as abruptly as you said BMC he would have undoubtebly been hit by the bomb.

Eventully the bomb would explode so it needed to be deflected. Also hashirama said something about not wanting to destroy the land.

Bijuu bombs are so sketchy... you'd think it would explode on impact.
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Bro you are grasping at straws. The fact that Harishima was moving while the bijuudama was moving is the only thing that matters. You see it went miles casually while moving at something that is clearly highspeed. The fact it never blew harishima ass up tells you he was either moving equal to or greater to it. Considering he had time to stop and perform a summoning only adds fire to it. Mind you he was in the direct path of it.
So.. bearing this logic in mind. Lets say a car was again, travelling towards me at 90mph. I am in the 'direct path' of it and I am fully aware that is travelling towards me. If I turn around a dodge the car at the last second with a side step does this mean that by using your logic because I was not hit by the car that I was therefore moving equal or even faster to 90mph?
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Not exactly.

What DL is saying is right and wrong. The fact that you could react to a car in the amount of time it takes for the car to reach 0-90 miles per hour and accelerate to the point where it's about to hit you (which is also a variable by the way; different cars can reach different speeds at different times), it means that your reaction speed is equal to that or greater than that of the car's speed.

That doesn't mean that your running speed is the same speed, however. In short, you are both right in some respects.
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^Thats exactly what i have been saying.

The never gained distance on the bijuu bomb.

It didnt go Hashirama standing still > Bijuu bomb firing > Hashirama running

He wasnt running/escaping from the bijuu bomb itself but from madaras rampage. Hence madara get tired of chasing him and fires the bombs. WHILE hashirama is still fleeing.

Also please point we the panel where he 'runs' i cant find any.

And no sora because he reacted fast enough to summon rashomon in time.

Besides the speed of the bijuu bomb doesnt have to the same the entire time. It could lose and in this case probably GAIN speed after hashirama blocked it with rashomon.

I suck at examples but imagine a rubber band. You hold it back the moment you let lose( bijuu bomb gets first blocked and deflected) it shoots forward with great speed.
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So.. bearing this logic in mind. Lets say a car was again, travelling towards me at 90mph. I am in the 'direct path' of it and I am fully aware that is travelling towards me. If I turn around a dodge the car at the last second with a side step does this mean that by using your logic because I was not hit by the car that I was therefore moving equal or even faster to 90mph?
Car try a bullet that is the first point you need to stop at. Secondly what you are describing is plain reaction speed. Harishima didn't just react he gained distance from it in order to summon the gates. As seen in the big ass panel with the attack at his back. If he didn't do that he would have been dead.
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A side note, generally running speed is only applied to offense.
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Not exactly.

What DL is saying is right and wrong. The fact that you could react to a car in the amount of time it takes for the car to reach 0-90 miles per hour and accelerate to the point where it's about to hit you (which is also a variable by the way; different cars can reach different speeds at different times), it means that your reaction speed is equal to that or greater than that of the car's speed.

That doesn't mean that your running speed is the same speed, however. In short, you are both right in some respects.
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Not exactly.

What DL is saying is right and wrong. The fact that you could react to a car in the amount of time it takes for the car to reach 0-90 miles per hour and accelerate to the point where it's about to hit you (which is also a variable by the way; different cars can reach different speeds at different times), it means that your reaction speed is equal to that or greater than that of the car's speed.

That doesn't mean that your running speed is the same speed, however. In short, you are both right in some respects.
Not really because said car started at 90 and was shown close to him on a panel. Next scene he was shown stopping a decent distance away from said car while it was still doing 90. That is not reaction.
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Assuming Hashirama is behind the 5 rashomon, that would mean he had to gain that much distance between him and the bomb. The distance between him and the bomb when it was initially fired cannot fit 5 rashomon that surpass the mountains in size.

The panel where he 'runs' doesn't exist, it happened between panels

the bijuu bomb could possibly gain speed due to the rotating susano'o swords.. but after being blocked by the gates it would likely slow down for a bit
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Old 06-26-2013, 07:25 AM   #98
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^Thats exactly what i have been saying.

The never gained distance on the bijuu bomb.

It didnt go Hashirama standing still > Bijuu bomb firing > Hashirama running

He wasnt running/escaping from the bijuu bomb itself but from madaras rampage. Hence madara get tired of chasing him and fires the bombs. WHILE hashirama is still fleeing.

Also please point we the panel where he 'runs' i cant find any.

And no sora because he reacted fast enough to summon rashomon in time.

Besides the speed of the bijuu bomb doesnt have to the same the entire time. It could lose and in this case probably GAIN speed after hashirama blocked it with rashomon.

I suck at examples but imagine a rubber band. You hold it back the moment you let lose( bijuu bomb gets first blocked and deflected) it shoots forward with great speed.
Bro I have already addressed this. You just skipped the response. So are you saying there is no scene with a rather large one at that with harishima staying ahead of the bijuudama? That fact alone tells you what you are saying is wrong. Furthermore the attack would have been slowed down by the gates not increase its speed. What even lead you to that train of thought.
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Not really because said car started at 90 and was shown close to him on a panel. Next scene he was shown stopping a decent distance away from said car while it was still doing 90. That is not reaction.
Yes really. It doesn't really matter how far away it is. That doesn't change the fact that it's still reaction speed as opposed to running speed. It just increases his reaction speed.
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A side note, generally running speed is only applied to offense.
Not really most speed feats in general specifically in manga come from defensive moves than offensive. To be defensive requires a higher degree to outperform a offensive attack.
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