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Old 06-07-2013, 03:08 AM   #81
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First of all Sasori can't spam anything. He has limited needles, poison gas, and puppets.

You're best argument is that Sasori is smarter than derpy ole Neji based on hype but based on feats he's an idiot who wastes iron sand on giant legos and fell for Sakura playing possum. If his Kazekage puppet gets anywhere near Neji, rotation will shatter that puppet. Last time I checked Sasori always uses the Kazekage puppet for mele combat before he brings iron sand out.

I don't remember Neji ever having stamina issues. Pts Neji used rotation against Kidomaru and he was perfectly fine afterwards.

Again Sasori's poison needles and gas is fodder here. If Sakura and Chiyo can dodge them without a scratch then they're sure as hell not touching Neji. Sasori doesn't even have that many needles like he had in the anime. Hiruko's tail would easily get broken by a rotation. The tail got broken by a damn blade. I mean it got completely shattered by a blade.

Poison gas is only useful if Sasori is holding his victim down with ropes attached to kunai like he did Sakura but rotation would break him free. You seem to think poison gas is insta kill but its not as long as you hold your breath you're good. The radius on the poison gas was small by the way.

Sasori' s 100 puppets are all mindless punching bag. All Neji has to do is run around and let them all get near him and then use rotation. The size on rotation can be expanded by the way.

Also what the hell does chiyo's strings have to do with sakura's strength? She needed the strings to maneuver it didn't enhance her strength or anything. You do realize that Hiruko is a puppet right? It doesn't even have any defensive feats.

Once Hiruko runs out of needles and gets his tail broken by rotation then what? He has to leave to summon the Kazekage puppet.

This is how the fight would go based on how these two would fight

Hiruko starts off shooting needles and they all get dodged like sakura and chiyo did. Once he runs out of needles, which he will fast, He will try to attack Neji with his tail and the tail gets broken by rotation.

Sasori then leaves Hiruko to summon the Kazekage puppet and he will bring its blades out like he did against sakura and chiyo and when his puppet gets near Neji, he gets 1 shotted by rotation.

Sasori then summons 100 puppets and Neji will simply run around and round them up in big numbers then rotation. Once all 100 puppets are broken Sasori will desperately try to attack Neji with a poison sword and because Neji can sense the chakra in his heart he will destroy it.

This is how Sasori fights

Again Sasori can't spam anything so I don't know where you got that from.




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Umm if he has an arsenal large enough to take down a nation then I'm pretty sure he has unlimited weapons for a single damn shinobi. Did you even pay attention to the fight? Sasori had thousands of weapons at his disposal and never showed any signs of running out.

Sasori IS smarter than Neji because Neji has barely any battle experience. Really? You are comparing an Orochimaru fodder henchmen to Sasori? LOL. If Sakura could go back in time then she would tear him apart. Sakura was NOT playing possum.. Sasori is too smart to fall for that. This was when she used her first antidote which only Tsunade herself was expected to be capable of. So realistically, unless Tsunade herself was involved (which she technically was) then it would be impossible to resist the numbing of the poison. Once again the 3rd Kazekage even in taijutsu has shown incredible destructive feats, crushing Hiruko's tail like it was a nothing. Sakura crushed a giant BOULDER with that same punch. Are you saying that Sakura's power is only equivalent to a Kaiten? Kaiten could repel but not crush this particular puppet.

Neji has no stamina issues? He is only human. Sasori does not NEED staimina since he can fight forever, HENCE, the feat of taking down a whole nation which only an unlimited arsenal of deadly weapons and unlimited stamina could accomplish. He does not have stamina, therefore outclasses Neji in stamina who uses a lot of chakra.

His gas and needs are not "fodder" just because they were the first weapons to depart. Are you out of your mind? Chiyo is probably the most evasive shinobi ever seen.. nobody can evade like her. Sakura was on puppet strings so it doesn't count. Neji is not evasive. You talk about Neji as if he is leagues above Chiyo.. the strongest in the sand village who also happen to be the perfect counter to Sasori. Chiyo would wreck Neji. Chiyo is equivalent to a Sannin based on what we have seen. Neji is merely a rookie and fodder Jonin.
When Hiruko's tail was "shattered by a blade", that was to show 3rd Kazekage's destructive feats. That tail has retrained one of Kankuro's puppets and has swung people around like they don't even weight anything. Also, there was no way anyone was getting close to Sasori without his tailed being tampered with by Chiyo's strings. Neji can't possible get close to it. His Kaiten reaction is not equivalent to Hiruko tail's speed blitz.

Kankuro's fodder gas easily affected Shino who is just as cunning as Neji. Shino knew that he was screwed the second he inhaled.. this proves that no amount of wit can withstand a poisonous gas bomb. You would need EVASIVE skills, like Chiyo and Sakura, which Neji does not have. Sasori needed the ropes to tie Sakura down because she is an evasive type who counters Sasori. Neji cannot evade like someone who trained to EVADE with Tsunade for 3 years. As Lee mentioned, Neji is arrogant with his jutsu disposals, therefore does not train himself in areas that his jutsus can simply cover most of the time. You cannot compare his evasive capacity to Chiyo and Sakura. Stop belittling them when comparing to Neji... Chiyo is miles ahead of Neji and Sakura is miles ahead in this particular field.

Sasori said that only the "best" can join his ranks in the 100 puppets techniques. They only seemed so pathetic compared to Chiyo's elite puppet squadron. I bet Sasori's fodder puppets could even take on Kankuro back then. Sakura needed an ANTIDOTE to be able to physically break those puppets.. without it she would be DEAD. They would have been DEAD multiple times without antidotes or knowledge, and it still was not enough. Sasori was STILL only toying with them and chose suicide in the end. How do you expect Neji to handle something like this? You are only playing favourites and overhyping Neji's abilities.

During the fight, Sasori will know ALL of Neji's capabilities just like Kidoumaru did, except that Sasori is much smarter and will know how to handle it. So he won't "desperately" try to attack Neji because by that time he will have 100% data on Neji and will know all risks. Once again, Sasori chose suicide. Sasori isn't dumb enough to put himself at risk.
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How would sasori even have knowledge of that vaccuum? Sasori didnt charge into sasori attacked and chiyo countered with the vaccuum.

Multiple times you mean like two times?

Chiyo clearly states that sasori let them win. You have no ground here.

Chunin you mean.



The reason the 100 puppets didnt touch sakura or chiyo is because they were fighting with the equivalent of TWELVE people.(chiyo+sakura and those 10 elite puppets)

No they wont neji cant frikin spam rotation he never has hes uses it around 2-3 times max in every fight hes been in. The moment he stops rotating is the moment he gets stabbed. Neji doesnt have the cover that TEN additional boys provide.

No your just wanking (non existant) rotation spam here.

Why would sasori even pull out the third when iron sand is restricted?

Anyway neji doesnt ten additional warriors-meat shields covering for him. He will die. Either being overwhelmed or just from the exhaustion
Again Neji has shown the ability to spam rotation against his clone so its not really wanking at all. Not that he needs to because by the time he uses it 2-3 times all the puppets will already be gone. You make it sound like Neji is vulnerable when he stops rotating, when he's not. He could just use 64 palms afterwards, then rotation, then 64 palms again and all the puppets are gone. Or he could just save the trouble of doing all that and cut off the threads.

Sasori can't spam anything, he has a limited arsenal just like you make Neji out to be. He does not have infinite senbon, and he doesn't have infinite puppets.

Neji doesn't need 10 people covering for him. He's fought multitudes of opponents like this before, and your previous point in saying they weren't poisonous Is irrelevant since he didn't get hit while fighting them outside of his blind spot which Sasori won't find.


And Shisko Shi, grabbing Neji's feet is a terrible idea because he'll just end up like that Zetsu clone. Full Body Blow.
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Yes Sasori is a retard that let his puppets charge into a vacuum. Neji did use rotation 3 times in that panel and the craters in the ground is proof. Knocking someone through a thick tree means you can smash a damn puppet.

Sasori has oroven to be intelligent. No he is not retarded. Gyio is not easy opponent old or not. Shoot look at the 3rd Hokage, old but busted a move on Orochimaru.

If the needles are accurate then why did they all miss? The fact that he used rotation twice means he can use it multiple times. Just because some time passed doesn't mean he's defenseless in the time being,

Yea he isfrom using it again. He will be over welmed and poisoned from the tell Like I said. GG Bra.

Sasori doesn't have any accurate attacks besides iron sand and Neji has show to be able to use rotation multiple times.

Accurate? I am sure him sending a puppet to Nejis actual location from afar is pretty damn accurate. Not to mention the tail that stabbed Konkuro.

Of course Sasori gave up at the end. They smashed all his puppets and he had literally nothing left. He was going to die regardless and he knew that. He went all out in that fight and its obvious.

He still could have won. That trap he let himself die. He was happier that way. He gets to see his family and crap. So I believe as no one knows. Did he go all out? I am sure, who would give up an not put up a fight. Htere is a defrence from putting up a big fight and giving up and just trying to survivie. But no one knows.

Sasori isn't that smart in battle. He practically wasted iron sand and fell for Sakura playing possum. He relies on poison and quantity rather than skills. Sasori sucks and you guys just can't stand the thought of a genin beating an Akatsuki member.


A Genin? How retarded are you? Take the old lady out in the beginning and she be dead in seconds... That the ONLY reason she lived bro. They team worked. Also Sakura was a Chunin... NARUTO is the Genin. And rank means nothing. naruto is a genin and is clearly the most powerful atm in terms of who is alive. Minus Obito. Rank means nothing... Thats does not determine strength or power.


Hidan could even whip Sasori's ass with knowledge


HAHAHAHAHAHA! OMG That is bigger BS then the txt you are reading!
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And Shisko Shi, grabbing Neji's feet is a terrible idea because he'll just end up like that Zetsu clone. Full Body Blow.

He actually said that is the only way he could stop Rotation and that he doubts it. Not that Sasori would.
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Sakura could break puppets like they were nothing but could also break boulders like Kananda said. Neji hasn't got the destructive force to cope with this. Puppets have no circulatory system so his air palms are useless here. I also agree that Neji could not dodge any of Sasori's weapons like Chiyo and Sakura. Kaiten is his only defence which will exhaust him very quickly. Sasori is clever enough to exhaust Neji from excessive chakra use. Hiruko alone should take this.
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Neji dies this is one of the worst opponents for him period. Though if he can use 64 palms and air palm combo it might give him a weapon. The puppets are pretty weak on the durability side. He can probably do some damage.
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Again Neji has shown the ability to spam rotation against his clone so its not really wanking at all. Not that he needs to because by the time he uses it 2-3 times all the puppets will already be gone. You make it sound like Neji is vulnerable when he stops rotating, when he's not. He could just use 64 palms afterwards, then rotation, then 64 palms again and all the puppets are gone. Or he could just save the trouble of doing all that and cut off the threads.

Sasori can't spam anything, he has a limited arsenal just like you make Neji out to be. He does not have infinite senbon, and he doesn't have infinite puppets.

Neji doesn't need 10 people covering for him. He's fought multitudes of opponents like this before, and your previous point in saying they weren't poisonous Is irrelevant since he didn't get hit while fighting them outside of his blind spot which Sasori won't find.


And Shisko Shi, grabbing Neji's feet is a terrible idea because he'll just end up like that Zetsu clone. Full Body Blow.
How many times exactly?

Besides the fact that rotation barely has any destructive feats (meanwhile it took sakuras strenght to break said puppets) , do really think all hundred of them are gonna charge into the same rotation?

64 palms for what. 64 palms is a technique (like most of the jyuuken) which focuses on disabling the chakra network(which puppets lack or dont use) and causing internal damage (Sasori himself is the only puppet with an organ).

Its useless vs puppets. It wouldnt cause damage all it would do is knock them back. And neji cant rotate while doing 64 palms so thats just an invitation to a poison sword through his back.(again cant guard while your in the middle of attacking especially not vs 100 puppets)

Yes cut off all the puppeteer strings of all 100 puppets at once . seems legit. Or the more plausible scenario that neji gets stabbed in the back by one of the other 99 puppets while trying to cut the strings of 1 puppet.

Sasori does have unlimited stamina , which neji lacks.

Err no never in the series has neji fought puppets (which makes his jyuuken pointless) which all can poison neji.

(small)Spiders (which did nothing but just falling on neji) are not comparable to sasoris poisonous puppets. Each one capable of murdering him with a single poisonous strike.

So no he didnt he multitudes of opponents like that before making my statement relevant once more.

Neji dies. If hes so fantastic as you claim him to be he wouldnt be dead.
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Iron sand is restricted and the 100 puppets don't even have poison on their weapons.

To the people that keep saying Neji doesn't have the strength to break a puppet

Chapter 194 page 4

How does puppets survive rotation? They don't because they're puppets.

Rotation> 100 fodder poisonless puppets that couldn't even touch Sakura whos a close range fighter or Chiyo.

100 derpy puppets cannot survive rotations

If anyone is wanking its the people who are using he took down a nation as a feat.

You people say Sasori is smart but the way he fought was retarded.

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Rotation makes craters in the ground. Let me know when Sasori and his puppets get defensive feats. All you do is wank the puppets like they're tanks.

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Rotation has never inflicted major damage to anyone it was used against. Its not an offensive technique.

It simply repels what ever is aimed at it.
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All of Sasori's weapons are poisoned, Chiyo said so, stop denying it.

Your strength feat is Neji hitting one target 64 times, he's not going to be able to do that. He will not have the time to land multiple strikes on a single target.

Rotation is a defensive tactic, it doesn't kill the puppets and even if it broke them apart Sasori can reconstruct the parts or use individual parts as weapons.

Sakura had Chiyo's help and ten of the greatest puppets ever made. Sakura has the power to one hit smash the puppets into dust Neji does not.

The puppet army isn't fodder each one is dangerous, but they didn't compare to the ten greatest puppets made, that are designed to work together.

Sasori wouldn't throw all his puppets into the rotation and you know it.

Neji won't be able to get close and he will eventually get hit, and that means he's dead.
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Rotation has never inflicted major damage to anyone it was used against. Its not an offensive technique.

It simply repels what ever is aimed at it.
It would still disarm all of the puppets making them useless and he proceeds to smash them. Rotation will give him the win either way.

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Where does chiyo or sasori say that the 100 puppets have poison on their swords.

And you just admitted that the 100 puppets were fodder

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When she warns Sakura that ALL of Sasori's weapons are poisoned.

No I said they didn't stack up to the greatest puppets ever made, that are designed to work together against groups of people.
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When she warns Sakura that ALL of Sasori's weapons are poisoned.

No I said they didn't stack up to the greatest puppets ever made, that are designed to work together against groups of people.
She didn't even know about the 100 puppets at that point. She was talking about the Kazekage puppet or hiruko unless you can show me a panel where they say the 100 puppets have poison because they didn't say so and it wasn't even indicated in the artwork
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She was talking about Sasori's weapons in general.... this is just getting pointless.

Sasori wins, you are the only person who refuses to see that.
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She was talking about Sasori's weapons in general.... this is just getting pointless.

Sasori wins, you are the only person who refuses to see that.
He's not winning without iron sand. Rotation will disarm all the puppets and he will smash them.
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He's not winning without iron sand. Rotation will disarm all the puppets and he will smash them.

You fail to release that Sasori is not Spider boy. He is not sending all his puppets at him at the same time. After the needles shoot and rotation goes the tail poisons him from below.

Also the "Tree" He broke was after 64 palms.... He does that to one puppet the others will stab him.

So its not going to be easy. Sasori is not an idiot.
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You fail to release that Sasori is not Spider boy. He is not sending all his puppets at him at the same time. After the needles shoot and rotation goes the tail poisons him from below.

Also the "Tree" He broke was after 64 palms.... He does that to one puppet the others will stab him.

So its not going to be easy. Sasori is not an idiot.
Dude sasori sends all his puppets he doesn't leave any on standby.

Stop saying what sasori will do when he's done the exact opposite.

Hiruko's tail has never went underground in the manga. That was anime only and kishi has nothing to do with the anime.
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I'm done because I don't like Neji or Sasori,
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Neji dies this is one of the worst opponents for him period. Though if he can use 64 palms and air palm combo it might give him a weapon. The puppets are pretty weak on the durability side. He can probably do some damage.
You have it wrong; the puppets are not weak on the durability side. Each puppet in Sasori's army is more sturdy than a human. Sakura's punches can destroy boulders so of course a puppet would cave. Trying to beat a puppet with brute force is meaningless unless you have super strength or a destructive jutsu, neither which Neji has.

If you look at Kankuro's puppets then it's obvious that they are too durable to air palms or taijutsu. All you can do to a puppet is avoid it and try to aim for the user, which Sasori will be out of reach so that is a major blind spot covered.
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