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Old 06-11-2013, 03:24 PM   #61
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So you are telling that manda>gyuki in durability?
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Besides sasuke somehow teleported him and mada to another location plus they only got hit by a part of the blast. Chapter 364 page 14
its chapter 363,but it seems like this is correct.


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Manda isnt fast compared to A the frikin fastest alive shinobi aside from maybe naruto.

You said manda is not fast in previous post,which i proved to be a wrong statement.I never compared Ay and Manda's speed.Obviously Ay is faster but the statement that manda is not fast is completely false.



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And how did manda evade tsunades sight there all manda did was directly attack katsuyu which she was standing on. Thats not escaping sight.


chapter 170 page 9

The gigantic manda evaded the acid even before it landed down.Then you can see tsunade turning her head to keep track of Manda.Thats pretty much escaping sight.


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Either way yes he closes the distance and knock manda down like he did to gyuki

Umm the problem i just noticed is this:

How can you knock a snake down?its already on the ground and not even to mention that Ay doesn't have the neccesary strenght.In case you don't suggest Ay can pull manda out of the ground while he is going in it?thats just....lol
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:33 PM   #62
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@Zig the knockdown would be more to prevent it from digging underground then to damage it.

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yep.

its chapter 363,but it seems like this is correct.

You said manda is not fast in previous post,which i proved to be a wrong statement.I never compared Ay and Manda's speed.Obviously Ay is faster but the statement that manda is not fast is completely false.

chapter 170 page 9

The gigantic manda evaded the acid even before it landed down.Then you can see tsunade turning her head to keep track of Manda.Thats pretty much escaping sight.

Umm the problem i just noticed is this:

How can you knock a snake down?its already on the ground and not even to mention that Ay doesn't have the neccesary strenght.In case you don't suggest Ay can pull manda out of the ground while he is going in it?thats just....lol
Read my previous post nope. Manda is not more durable then one of the strongest bijuu out there.

Meh somewhere in the 300s

Seeing the subject of this thread it should be kind of obvious that i was comparing manda to A.

Turning her head to follow manda meant she could still see him. And keep track of him. Hence he didnt escape her sight. She merely adjusted her head so he wouldnt go out of it in the first place.

Manda in a neutral position keeps his head lifted in the sky. The Sannin fight is an perfect example.

And even though it is manda the snake sasuke summoned in the current manga showed the same.

Again read my previous post he knocked gyuki down with a chop of his manda poses no danger. A has enough strenght to knock manda down.
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:47 PM   #63
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Turning her head to follow manda meant she could still see him. And keep track of him. Hence he didnt escape her sight. She merely adjusted her head so he wouldnt go out of it in the first place.
Sigh.....OR it means she lost him from sight and turned her head around and was suprised to see him already warping himself around katsuyu.Its pretty much how you get it when you read,and anyway we can both agree manda is fast as crap.Not faster then Ay of course >.>


Just because he knocked gyuuki that was chained doesn't mean he could knock out manda.And even if he does "knock him down" he just helped manda to get in position to go underground.


AFTER ALL oro doesn't even need manda to go underground he can do it himself.
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I have read and nothing makes sense of how he hits Ay
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:27 PM   #65
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^ u blind boy.

Oro doesn't hit Ay,minato does.
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:35 PM   #66
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in that case yeah

Prep time always gets me confused
idk if ET is offensive/defensive measures
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:41 PM   #67
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WAITTTTT

I agree that Oro has all dna of hokages on him
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where is he going to get the sacrifices?!?!

Nobody else is allowed in the fight. Oro cant stop by his house and get the dead bodies.
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^ why can't he?he has 1 hour prep right?
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:38 PM   #69
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But prep is not allowed to involve people. That would be outside help.

It's like somone asking onoki to touch them so they can fly
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Someone asking naruto for kyubbi chakra
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Kiba for food pills

Sacrifices are not standard prep for Oro. Hokage DNA is. Oro woul hve time to use it. But who knows how far a body would be.

It's like captain America getting help with te avengers
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:53 PM   #70
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Prep time: Neither side receives any notable prep time before the starting bell. Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell. Planning is allowed and powers that are automatic or 'always on' can be up, but actions such as setting up forcefields, taking flight, or consciously activating powers is not. For example, Batman cannot shove together an 'anti-Avengers spray' before the fight.

No outside help: Unless specified otherwise, no contestant may call for outside assistance, even in scenario matches. For example, Captain America cannot call in the Avengers during a fight with Batman.
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Well in that case,without Edo Tensei oro is screwed against Ay.


I still heavily doubt that Ay can fight manda as he is the same size as a third of manda's eyeball,but thats for another thread.
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I think that if Orochimaru gets in his true form (the one where he is a snake made out of smaller snakes), he could possibly win. He gets blitzed by A and cut in half. Then, the poison in the snakes' blood paralyzes A. Oro then just deals with him in whatever way he sees fit.

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Old 06-13-2013, 09:46 AM   #73
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Manda can't blitz or touch Ay and ay can hop on Manda

Oro can only use that true form every 3 years the OP does not say oro can use it so.. He can't
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