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Old 06-01-2013, 08:28 AM   #1
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Dark swamp GG(also makes his summoning useless)
Giant frogs stomp on him
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Lol this fight happened already Jiraiya couldn't win with Orochimaru and Tsunade helping. Hanzo rolf stomps.
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^that was a LONG time ago

Care to explain how Hanzo wins? Like strategy not just what you heard.
They have all grown since then so if you think jiryria is still that weak then...
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dark swamp has never worked effectively, if it did Jiraya would not be dead with his arm ripped off and 6 puncture wounds in vital spots.
If he could he would have been able to turn that entire hallway into a dark swamp which he did not and pain was able to get around it easily.
Now please do share the growth chart that explains jiraya's increase in ability from the time of him first fighting Hanzo with 2 other sannin. Not saying jiraya is a weakling, just saying that dark swamp has perhaps been his least utilized jutsu period and as far as I can tell.
only PoP used dark swamp as a GG, are you him?
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Also, Jiraya has most feats done in sage mode, out of sage mode he has very little to offer,
his summons are wonderful for sure, but Hanzo has clearly dealt with it before.
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Sure Jiraiya kneels to cast dark swamp and catches a kusarigama to the throat, as you know his throat is his weak spot. Frogs get poisoned. Hanzo wreaks Jiraiya.
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Since when does jiryria need to kneel to use dark swamp? Since when is his thoat a weak spot? Dark swamp is only one had sign.

Jiryria can dodge the weapon
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He can't cast the jutsu and dodge at the same time. The throat thing was a joke, I mean Pain knew it was his weak spot. Dark Swamp is situational and it never works lets say Hanzo gets pulled in, uses kusarigama to pull himself out while spitting poison clouds at Jiraiya. Hanzo wins.
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Even bough dark swamp is huge and would sink Hanzo quickly it would also get the weapon stuck in the mud as well

Jiryria can use had or clones first before e does anything that way Hanzo can not get a good hit. One would grap the weapon while te other attacks

Come on now. It jiryria vs a guy with a weapon/poison. It's a stomp

And no I'm not PoP . I just like dark swamp mostly doton moves an the swamp is underrated
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He has always kept dark swamp's size in check with the target, also who would throw their weapon into the mud rather than the a wall. Hanzo's attacks are large scale and fatal on contact. How does Jiraiya avoid or counter poison clouds? Hanzo is also able to use fire release and is an excellent tactician. Ever wonder why Nagato is in a wheel chair? Not to mention he can use the Body Flicker technique meaning his speed is comparable to A's. (Chp.447 Pg.12)

Hanzo in his prime stomps Jiraiya.
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Wow wow wow wow.

Body Flicker makes you as fast as A?. Dafuq are you smoking.

What fire release?

If the reason for nagato being in a wheel chair was ever given it was because gedo mazo impaled his back.

He could also use toad mouth bind to prevent hanzo from doing anything.

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dark swamp has never worked effectively, if it did Jiraya would not be dead with his arm ripped off and 6 puncture wounds in vital spots.

If he could he would have been able to turn that entire hallway into a dark swamp which he did not and pain was able to get around it easily.
Now please do share the growth chart that explains jiraya's increase in ability from the time of him first fighting Hanzo with 2 other sannin. Not saying jiraya is a weakling, just saying that dark swamp has perhaps been his least utilized jutsu period and as far as I can tell.
only PoP used dark swamp as a GG, are you him?
It's ok we won't tell your secret but we will.

Also, Jiraya has most feats done in sage mode, out of sage mode he has very little to offer,
his summons are wonderful for sure, but Hanzo has clearly dealt with it before.
It disabled the opponent two out of two times it was used it was very effective. Jiraiyas lack of knowledge on pains 6 bodies does not mean his jutsus did not work.

No he hasnt as the fight was off panel. For all we know kuchiyose wasnt even used in that fight we dont know.

Debating for dark swamp makes you PoP. Seems legit. -.-
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When thy fought they all where in their prime. How will this help with poison coming out? This might go to pervy sage. I mean that fight also could have been one of the Plots only fights. as we nowsee much more and better feats with pervy boy.
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Lol saying dark swamp GG makes you PoP.

I said comparable not equal they have the same high speed technique.

The explosive tag fire attack combo that Hanzo used to cripple Nagato.

Toad gets poisoned and dies.
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By that excellent logic I gues I'm PoP then

Hanzo can use poison cloud on his own. He needs to summon the salamander.

Poison clouds are beaten by a paperbomb or holding your breath >.>

And don't use nagato! He was put in a dangerous situation form the start. Plus Hanzo had an army with him. And nagato was not a full rinnegan powers

Jiryria is a tactican to. He figured ou te mystery of pain while Hanzo got killed by him

And I was not saying he would throw he weapon but It would be waist deep and get caught on the swamp

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Hanzo can use poison cloud on his own. He needs to summon the salamander.

Poison clouds are beaten by a paperbomb or holding your breath >.>

And don't use nagato! He was put in a dangerous situation form the start. Plus Hanzo had an army with him. And nagato was not a full rinnegan powers

Jiryria is a tactican to. He figured ou te mystery of pain while Hanzo got killed by him

And I was not saying he would throw he weapon but It would be waist deep and get caught on the swamp

Thanks for clearin up his BS, BMC

No using it in a stupid way makes you PoP. But the Dark swamp I can see working. But Pervy sage would have to make it not effect him. That is what PoP did that made it stupid. YOurs seems very logical.

Unless his summons or he can use the poison first then pervy sage has this one.
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Well thanks!

And I think Hanzo has poision on his weapons. Lets be honest mekuto you really don't think jiryria can't counter a simple weapon

The salamander is the one with a lot of posing and the mist
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Yup you're PoP

Hanzo wears the mask to protect others from his poison breath, everything about Hanzo is poisonous.

Lol cause holding your breath is sure a great and long lasting defense. Neither of these will effectively counter the poison gas.

Even though Hanzo had overwhelming forces he correctly anticipated and prepared for Nagato to attack him.

Hanzo was old at the time of death not believed to be at full strength, also the context you are getting this comparison from a sage mode Jiraiya with frog song.

Waist deep doesn't mean that his arms would be trapped in the mud, he throws it into a wall and pulls himself out. Simply put Dark Swamp doesn't trap him, next tactic.

Jiraiya gets poisoned and then gets killed.
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If mifune's takes off the mask he is just risking himself frying positioned. And we have not seen the effects of his breath plus with the distance his own breth would not reach that far.


Mifune surivied by holding his breath
Sakura countered sasori's poison via paperbomb so why would it not work?

Jiryria was as old as Hanzo (or near) and he got fuether than Hanzo ever would even without SM

Fine whatever forget the swamp

What about 2 shadow clones? What about that strategy! And explain why the counters to the poison would not work

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lol.

Hanzo had to tell people about his weak spot. It's not common knowledge and less of a danger, if he wanted to he could take off the mask and rock face.

Hanzo can summon and attack with the salamander very quickly, this attack covers a wide area.

Mifune held his breath while swallowed by the salamander and quickly escaped from the mouth, it would not be effective if the combat zone were filled with a full charge of poison like the salamander uses upon being summoned.
Saori's poison is not Hanzo's the amount and method of delivery isn't the same.

You don't know their ages, and you don't know anything about Hanzo's fight with pain.

Poison gas, shadow clones would go down just like Jiraiya.

For the record Hanzo is shown to be very proficient with his Kusarigama. How does the weaponless and not fast outside of sage mode Jiraiya, effectively block the weapon?
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Jiryria does not need to know that info. I am trying to Inform you that if no fine takes off his mask... Which is OOC would endanger himself and jiryria will not get that close for his breath to do damage. Do you even have feats for hanzo's breath.

Jiryria can also summon gama and attack very quickly it's just that gama is more powerful and bigger. And his attack does not cover a wide area cuz they had to get close to lankuro's squad to use it.

I know sasori's poison and Hanzo is different but they are both poison mist. Which means a paperbomb will destroy/disperse the poison gas. You have no reason why that would not work.

I know pain wrecked Hanzo. And Hanzo didn't get as far as jiryria and Hanzo did not figure anything out

The shadow clone was for if Hanzo used his weapon and you know it. Jiryria's shadow clone would take the hit or grab the weapon to protect the original


Chp.530 pg 15-shows how there is a limit to the gas and he ha to concentrate . We have only feats of salamander poision gas not hanzo's
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