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Old 05-15-2013, 01:11 PM   #41
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To be honest Gaara's sand would have dealt with Kakashi. He's just going to be overwhelmed by the sand, there's too much of it for him to handle. Gaara would also make quick work of Shikamaru given that he's in the air.
How is Gaara going to get in the air anyway, as I said before there are 5 other people who can attack him before reaching in the air.
Kakashi- Long Range Lightning
Darui- Long Range Lightning
Mifune- Not doing anything
Shikimaru- Shadow
Kitsuchi- Earth dome thing

Of course this applies to everyone else as well such as Kakashi and Kitsuchi.
Okay let me say the events in which things will happen.
1. Kitsuchi uses his huge dome, Kakashi uses Kamui on Gaara who tries to fly away.
Gaara down
2. Darui atacks Kitsuchi noticing he is a Earth user and kills him with lightning. Mifune or Shikimaru attack Kakashi who dodges their attack as he has been shown to be able to react after a Kamui and is great in taijutsu.
Kitsuchi down
3. The dome still rises because despite Kitsuchi being dead the jutsu was activated. Kakashi, Mifune, Darui and Shiki all run to escape the dome but the radius is to large. Kakashi either goes underground or uses Raiton to cut through the rock, Darui uses Raiton to cut through the rock, Shiki dies, Mifune dies.
Mifune Down, Shiki Down
4. Kakashi and Darui are left. Kakashi defeats Darui in a tough battle that has been decided in other threads.
Darui down
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Old 05-15-2013, 02:13 PM   #42
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No I take back my Vote Shikamaru would beat them all he's a lot smarter he could out think them and get around all their jutsu.
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Gaara's sand would kill Kakashi before he even uses kamui..
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Gaara's sand would kill Kakashi before he even uses kamui..
Facepalm. You have no proof that Gaara sand is faster than Kamui so stop bringing that up. If Gaara sand does hit Kakashi then what is stoping Kakashi from blocking it or hiding underground. Also anyone apart from Mifune can take down Gaara.
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No I take back my Vote Shikamaru would beat them all he's a lot smarter he could out think them and get around all their jutsu.
Thats a fair comment that he is smart, however there is thinkers and then there is the making those actions happen. Even if Shika can come up with a strategy then how is he going to execute that strategy. I also doubt he is a lot smarter than Kakashi, I always figured that they were on par. For example Neji was a genius but he still could not defeat a idiot (naruto) because Naruto was too strong.
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Facepalm. You have no proof that Gaara sand is faster than Kamui so stop bringing that up. If Gaara sand does hit Kakashi then what is stoping Kakashi from blocking it or hiding underground. Also anyone apart from Mifune can take down Gaara.
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You're going to go underground.... against Gaara... who's jutsu is created from the ground... you might as well have Kakashi just give up.
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Kakashi going underground....Kitsuchi would just sandwich him as soon as he does.
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You're going to go underground.... against Gaara... who's jutsu is created from the ground... you might as well have Kakashi just give up.
One on one its not a great idea but with 6 people, Gaara is going to be concentrating on fighting what he can see rather than attacking somethin he can't see. Also you comment that blocking was stupid but I fail to see how blocking is a bad idea. Note that people are going to be attacking Gaara while he is using his sand as well, Kitsuchi giant dome
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Kakashi going underground....Kitsuchi would just sandwich him as soon as he does.
If he is underground how is the sandwich going to hit him the dome works above ground
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1. Kitsuchi uses his huge dome, Kakashi uses Kamui on Gaara who tries to fly away.
Gaara down
2. Darui atacks Kitsuchi noticing he is a Earth user and kills him with lightning. Mifune or Shikimaru attack Kakashi who dodges their attack as he has been shown to be able to react after a Kamui and is great in taijutsu.
Kitsuchi down
3. The dome still rises because despite Kitsuchi being dead the jutsu was activated. Kakashi, Mifune, Darui and Shiki all run to escape the dome but the radius is to large. Kakashi either goes underground or uses Raiton to cut through the rock, Darui uses Raiton to cut through the rock, Shiki dies, Mifune dies.
Mifune Down, Shiki Down
4. Kakashi and Darui are left. Kakashi defeats Darui in a tough battle that has been decided in other threads.
Darui down
You see this ^ is the main problem with this thread. There's waay to many variables. You could make any hypothetical situation and make anyone the winner, even Mifune. What you have essentially done their is manipulate characters into doing specific actions in order to allow Kakashi to win. It's like me saying: Kakashi preps Kamui = Gaara's sand waterfalls him, Kitsu sandwiches him, Shikamaru insta-freezes him and Darui shoots him with laser circus GG. < That is essentially what you have just done which is all you can do which is why this thread is useless.

Oh yeah blocking Gaara's sand why didn't anyone in the narutoverse think about this before?!?! Gaara uses mass sand waterfall = Kakashi blocks GG. That cannot happen you don't simply block Gaara's sand. You would need a Susanoo level defense jutsu to even stand a chance and btw not even Susanoo can block Gaara's sand so unless you're saying Kakashi has a better defense than Madara's perfect Susanoo just stop..
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You see this ^ is the main problem with this thread. There's waay to many variables. You could make any hypothetical situation and make anyone the winner, even Mifune. What you have essentially done their is manipulate characters into doing specific actions in order to allow Kakashi to win. It's like me saying: Kakashi preps Kamui = Gaara's sand waterfalls him, Kitsu sandwiches him, Shikamaru insta-freezes him and Darui shoots him with laser circus GG. < That is essentially what you have just done which is all you can do which is why this thread is useless.

Oh yeah blocking Gaara's sand why didn't anyone in the narutoverse think about this before?!?! Gaara uses mass sand waterfall = Kakashi blocks GG. That cannot happen you don't simply block Gaara's sand. You would need a Susanoo level defense jutsu to even stand a chance and btw not even Susanoo can block Gaara's sand so unless you're saying Kakashi has a better defense than Madara's perfect Susanoo just stop..
With the top half of the paragraph I agree. I feel like you are right in a way even though I thought I was right. Thank you because I said at the beggining that if there was somethin wrong with the thread feel free to tell me. I think it's best if I personally just stop posting and let others carry on, there is not really anything I can think of to change the stipulations.

I will say that I think Kakashi water and doton together could provide a solid defence against the sand but then again I have no proof.
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1. My point is that Kakashi kept up with more than One Jinchuriki so he is faster speed wise and reaction wise
Okay but that does not down play what Kitschi did and make Kakashi that much faster then him ESPECIALLy under the conditions.

2. Lightning Beast Running Jutsu,
bunch of sand>>lighting dog
Water Jutsu,
Kakashi can only use water ninjutsu when there is a water source...there is no water source so NO SUTION
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How does that help against sand?
Kamui,
Kakashi only has one shargian so he can only have one kaumi.
With that sharigan he can only see in one direction.
Soo he can only kaumi things in one direction.
Garra can attack from multiple sides at once at fast pace
So kakashi can kaumi all of the sand and he gets hurt
Lightning Clone
How does that help against sand? Especially with sand sensing and the fact that Garra can do multiple things with his sand like attack and defend. Lighting clone does nothing.

3. Thank you for explaining that because I thought you were refering to him punching Kakashi. Though I still disagree that Kitsuchi can perform that jutsu before Kakashi can even reveal his sharingan. See point number 2 for long ranged attacks. Why can't Kakashi go underground to dodge the earth dome atack.
Cuz Kitsuchi can raise the earth where Kakashi is

4. Raiton attacks can break through Gaara sand and will hit him.
lol by what logic/proof?
Also there is Kitsuchi huge dome attack to stop him from running away.
Garra can hold the dome apart with his sand so he can escape.

But these huge matches are so fun because there is so many different factors to think of so there is tons of debating to be done. Its cool being able to pit people against each other when every person has someone who they are weak against. Its like Charmander vs Squirtle vs Bulbasaur
Honstly its just Kistuchi vs Kakashi vs Garra (mainly kakashi vs Garra)
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You know the whole scenario of Gaara doing anything is dependent on whether or not Kakashi doesn't just decide to take his head with a Kamui and call it day. At this point in the story Gaara can't even land a clean hit on him because of Kamui speed and defense. Furthermore there is a massive gap in speed. Kakashi has lately displayed speed right along with characters like Naruto and Obito. A raikiri to the heart is also plausible. Gaara hasn't displayed a jutsu that can actually contain kakashi. Who slipped away from way faster and deadlier attacks than gaara's sand. All in all Gaara is a one trick magician. Versus someone who can do it all.
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Garra's sand is faster than Kakashi revealing his sharigan. Garra would just obscure his vision with sand.
Lighitng blade is not going to work when Garra is in the air

In this battle Garra will be on the offense spamming sand from the sky while Kakashi is on the defense and using kaumi
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Gaara's sand is not faster faster than kakashi.

Nothing is stopping kakashi from blitzing him at the start. Anyways the point is kakashi can silence him instantly if he decides to use raikiri or kamui on him.

How does Gaara spam without no head? kamui GG
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I don't see Kakashi faster than Gaara can react unless he is very close to him in terms of movement.
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Gaara's sand is not faster faster than kakashi.

Nothing is stopping kakashi from blitzing him at the start. Anyways the point is kakashi can silence him instantly if he decides to use raikiri or kamui on him.

How does Gaara spam without no head? kamui GG
Yes you're right. Kakashi speed blitz with Raikiri GG

Oh is that another Kamui GG I see? How can Kakashi Kamui Gaara if he can't see him through a wave of sand, which is faster than Kamui?
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I don't see Kakashi faster than Gaara can react unless he is very close to him in terms of movement.
Kakashi, Bee, Naruto, and Gai all have relatively distinguished themselves from the rest of the alliance in speed including the kages. The fact Madara was clowning Gaara and the other four with just a clone tells you the gap difference. Mind you Madara techniques are way faster than anything Gaara puts out.
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Yes you're right. Kakashi speed blitz with Raikiri GG

Oh is that another Kamui GG I see? How can Kakashi Kamui Gaara if he can't see him through a wave of sand, which is faster than Kamui?
Yep I am right Overall in speed Kakashi is faster. Plus Gaaras sand is not strong enough to stop Raikiri. Nevermind you are ignoring the fact at his peak strength he can Kamui an object as big as the Hachibi. Smaller objects he snuffs instantly.Rolling your eyes sadly doesn't equate a real answer. If you have one that is. See I can do it too...oh wait almost got it.
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