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Old 05-12-2013, 11:39 AM   #1
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Base Guy was keeping up with RM Naruto and Obito no problem, so there'll be no speedblitz here.
Has Raikage demonstrated the durability feats to survive something that vaporized hundreds of water sharks and Hirudora (a massive shockwave of air pressure)
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are you sure that was base Guy
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Base Guy was keeping up with RM Naruto and Obito no problem, so there'll be no speedblitz here.
Has Raikage demonstrated the durability feats to survive something that vaporized hundreds of water sharks and Hirudora (a massive shockwave of air pressure)
RM Naruto's reaction speed isn't Minato / A level. He can speed burst for a short period of time and that is all. Obito didn't dodge A's attack he just phased through it, which is a lot easier. In other words, depending on the starting distance speedblitz is very possible.

A has greater power and speed than Gai and can sustain it for a longer period of time. Gai's advantage lies in the techniques he can perform while using the Gates, the large AoE flame blasts from Morning Peacock and the extremely focused Hirudora strike with a shockwave that can be felt for miles away are what put Gai above A in overall ability, but in a flat out brawl Gai is at a disadvantage.
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^game over

Ay is more destructive than Guy
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are you sure that was base Guy
It seems like it several points in the story. Although base or gated, it's clear that he's on the same speed level as RM Naruto and Tobi.

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RM Naruto's reaction speed isn't Minato / A level. He can speed burst for a short period of time and that is all. Obito didn't dodge A's attack he just phased through it, which is a lot easier. In other words, depending on the starting distance speedblitz is very possible.
What? RM Naruto's speed > V2 Shroud A w/Shunshin's speed by a little. Therefore, unless Raikage has demonstrated superior reaction feats, RM Naruto's reaction speed is superior to Raikage's reaction speed. I wouldn't call someone who was running over the entire battlefields of World War 4 to only be capable of "speed bursts for a short period of time". It's clear that Naruto is capable of running at high speeds, not necessarily speeds that are at least as fast as the Raikage's, continously for long periods of time.

And the fact that Obito was moving at equal speed with RM also supports Gai's footspeed and reaction speed.

Speedblitz is not possible between two people with the same footspeed, unless the other is not paying attention to the blitzer.

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Greater power? No, Gai's Morning Peacock and Hirudora says otherwise.
Raikage hasn't even shown any feats of running for long periods of time.

Well luckily this isn't a flat-out brawl, but a deathmatch between two brawlers at full power. There's nothing stopping Gai from blasting A with Hirudora from a distance. The only thing the Raikage over Gai is physical durability and physical strength. Nothing more.

Speaking of distance, I really insist on the OP to specify one because it's essential in most battles.
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What chp and pg do you think guy was in base
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The chapter where RM Naruto faces off against Tobi. An example of this would be chapter 596.
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How does that chp show he can keep up with RM Naruto? They stood there most of the fight until KB throw them at once. Guy attacked Tobi and RM came to attack as well. That does not show they are on the same speed par
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How does that chp show he can keep up with RM Naruto? They stood there most of the fight until KB throw them at once. Guy attacked Tobi and RM came to attack as well. That does not show they are on the same speed par
I'm too lazy to search for the chapter where Gai directly kept up with RM Naruto.
His speed is on par with Tobi's, whose speed IS equal with RM. If you look at page 17 clearfully, you may notice that Gai reacted to RM and that he actually tilted out of the way before Naruto placed his hand on him (there was a thread about it on NF, I'll link you to it pm).
Also at least as fast as Kakashi.
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lol well that does not mean he can beat ay cuz naruto was not going at full speed
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For one he could be kept up with and seen clearly. He was compared to the Yellow flash which was so fast that they could barely be seen.
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For one he could be kept up with and seen clearly. He was compared to the Yellow flash which was so fast that they could barely be seen.
POP, you need to revisit that scene again. Who was it that made that statement? It was Killer Bee. A Base Killer Bee who wasn't even looking at Naruto and was just rhyming in his usual rap language. What's there to say that Gai's movement and reaction speed isn't higher than Killer Bee's.
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Lets use simple logic A whole team got raped by Madara by himself. Gai's four man squad held their own Gai passed out sent Madara in his susanoo flying. Based on feats Gai is more powerful than A.
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POP, you need to revisit that scene again. Who was it that made that statement? It was Killer Bee. A Base Killer Bee who wasn't even looking at Naruto and was just rhyming in his usual rap language. What's there to say that Gai's movement and reaction speed isn't higher than Killer Bee's.
Ight for humor lets say base guy is on par with KM Naruto speed... so how is Guy going to land damage to a tanker like Ay

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That is obvious he had more powerful people on his team. Doesn't change the fact he was holding his own. Better than any of the kages.

The kages were losing before perfect susanoo. So Idon't your point there.
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Madara caught Guy with wood style then Guy was able to land a hit in when Madara was not even paying attention to him

At least the kages were able to have seal attempts on him
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