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Old 05-08-2013, 03:13 PM   #1
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Default Itachi vs Tobirama

Ok just to let you guys know this is my first thread.


Itachi vs Tobirama, itachi doesn't have a full susanoo, and the battle is in the land of iron.


Pick who you think would win and please have a resonable explanation thanks.
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Itachi wins for having superior feats. I can't even recall any Tobimara feats.
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Except for the thunder god's slash. Ya know where he teleports while decapitating people.
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Except for the thunder god's slash. Ya know where he teleports while decapitating people.
Good luck getting past Itachi's gengutsu
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Good luck getting past Itachi's gengutsu
Lol yeah he'd need something like a lifetime of fighting the Uchiha, to get past that.
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Tsukyomi, or amaterasu GG
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Tobirama has Uchiha exp so will know how to counter genjutsu. I think it will be a good fight, but thunder god slash is much harder to dodge than Amaterasu. Also, the incomplete Susano cannot protect him from a) high level water jutsu which water >fire, and b) he can teleport into the susano anyway.

Orochimaru said that Hiruzen could have defeated Itachi, so Hiruzen is a league above Itachi and Minato. Tobirama had too little feats, but he is really smart and has fought Uchiha before.

Either way, I don't think it's a stomp for anyone. Itachi can not amaterasu GG him.
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The the incompletely susanoo can do that even in its rib cage stage

Susanoo isnt a fire jutsu so why would that even matter?

He can? we have only seen him do it in a open area. We havent seen him going through walls/barrier/chakra(which susanoo is made of) plus the lack of explanation for the technique make me doubt he would be able to do that.

When did he say that?

I suppose he could dodge it with the FTG slice. Still he only has some water jutsu which ammy should clear with ease.

And yes he has fought uchiha before but itachi extremely talented even compared to other uchiha. How would tobirama deal with stuff like finger genjutsu etc?
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Can this be locked? Clearly there is no good feats for this... Konahamaru might as well join....
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To be fair with anime feats he has:

Rasengan
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which is more then tobirama
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I think this is a very good thread if you think about the powerscaling.
Tobirama > Izuna so Tobirama > Itachi? hmm..
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Tobirama does have feats. A top class slaughterer of uchiha, and put them in a corner in the leaf. That straight up says that he was superior to the entire clan. Not all feats revolve around combat considering some characters have abilities discussed only briefly.
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The the incompletely susanoo can do that even in its rib cage stage

Susanoo isnt a fire jutsu so why would that even matter?
It could still vanquish the Susano. Tobirama out-elements him through his fire base techniques so that's a huge advantage.
He can? we have only seen him do it in a open area. We havent seen him going through walls/barrier/chakra(which susanoo is made of) plus the lack of explanation for the technique make me doubt he would be able to do that.
Lol. It's a space/time jutsu. Not a blitz. Learn the difference.

When did he say that?
Whoah, I need to reference this? You really believe that Itachi can defeat the 3rd?
I suppose he could dodge it with the FTG slice. Still he only has some water jutsu which ammy should clear with ease.
"Only some water jutsu" LOL. He is a water jutsu master and create high scaled attacks out of thin air. He has enough feats to show that he can do a lot with his water element. At least more than Itachi with fire element.
And yes he has fought uchiha before but itachi extremely talented even compared to other uchiha. How would tobirama deal with stuff like finger genjutsu etc?
Izuna was also an extremely talented Uchiha, just not at the same level as Madara. So you are saying that Itachi DOES stand up to Madara? You're out of your mind. Whether Itachi or Izuna is stronger is still debatable. Oh.....finger genjutsu GG. YOU SURE GOT ME THERE. I'm sure the most tactical Hokage in history will fall for that. Something Naruto could almost break out of is sure to hit Tobirama, who has fought Uchiha his whole life and obviously has no knowledge of breaking out of genjutsu.
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Leaning towards Tobirama. A high level of chakra and very skillful chakra control, Danzo was able to break out of Sasuke's and while he stated it was weaker this proves that it can be broken out of.

A full Susannoo has been shown to be breakable by Kage level techniques, so again Tobirama is likely to be able to get past this.

And finally any opening is exploitable by the FTS, which currently we have no limitations for.

I'd really like to see Tobirama fight soon, so we can put some of these unknowns to bed.
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To be fair with anime feats he has:

Rasengan
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Harem jutsu
Kage bunshin no jutsu
Fire style: Burning ash

which is more then tobirama

But cleary He is not in this and since it was never stated it can only be assumed to be Manga.

Either way this is a slaughter... Hype? Tobi

Feat? Well no need to explain that....>.>
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Izuna was also an extremely talented Uchiha, just not at the same level as Madara. So you are saying that Itachi DOES stand up to Madara? You're out of your mind. Whether Itachi or Izuna is stronger is still debatable. Oh.....finger genjutsu GG. YOU SURE GOT ME THERE. I'm sure the most tactical Hokage in history will fall for that. Something Naruto could almost break out of is sure to hit Tobirama, who has fought Uchiha his whole life and obviously has no knowledge of breaking out of genjutsu.
Izuna has 0 feats. Itachi has a One Hit K.O sword and shield which blocks 'everything'.

Being madaras brother does not make him talented. There is a reason he died/lost before madara (they fought the same battles).

The most tactical hokage in in history?

The dude who was like

'f this Sh!z we cant win, run mofos'

Yeah true tactical genius there *eye roll*

Naruto couldnt break out of it. He was broken out of it. By either Chiyo/kakashi or sakura. Dont remember.

And that was vs a 30% itachi clone.

And fyi it wasnt finger genjutsu GG. I just listed that as one of the advantages itachi has has here. Regardless if even if he knew how breaking out is still going to take time. Time in which he can either take out or critically injure tobirama (Again One hit k.o sword). Dont slaughter my posts with your inability to understand them.

Space Time or not doesnt matter. Itachi manhandled KCM naruto the same KCM naruto who was keeping up with A who was rivals with a guy the most famous space time jutsu in naruto.

And yes you do need to reference it. Otherwise people could spout all kinds of nonsense like 'he said this/he said that' .

Again shield which blocks 'everything' one hit k.o sword. amaterasu/tsukuyomi. Im not the one out of my mind if think itachi loses against the third.

From what we have seen the third gets his ass handed to him. He will probably gets some more feats because hes edo tensei'd but for now he loses ... hard. (and i like hiruzen more then itachi). But lets save that for another thread.

The problem with his water jutsu is that his yata mirror can block easily. And those arent high level compared to users like kisame and mei.
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Izuna has 0 feats. Itachi has a One Hit K.O sword and shield which blocks 'everything'.
I will agree that Itachi wins because of feats.

But the way that the first post in this thread is written, it seems like you can use hype as well.

It says who do you think would win and to give a reasonable explanation. Usually, using only feats is not a reasonable thing to do.

So I believe hype could be used in this debate as well.

Itachi does have many powers but that alone is not enough to win.

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Being madaras brother does not make him talented. There is a reason he died/lost before madara (they fought the same battles).
Well, considering that two of them were the first in their clan to awaken Mangekyo Sharingan, I'd say Izuna was very strong. And also Izuna was claimed to be second while Madara was the first. Just like Hashirama was the first in their clan and Tobirama was the second.

And the reason Izuna died was Tobirama.

So, it wasn''t just an ordinary battle!!!

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The most tactical hokage in in history?

The dude who was like

'f this Sh!z we cant win, run mofos'

Yeah true tactical genius there *eye roll*
I am not sure what you are trying to say. Tobirama did show to be very smart and skilled.

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Naruto couldnt break out of it. He was broken out of it. By either Chiyo/kakashi or sakura. Dont remember.

And that was vs a 30% itachi clone.

And fyi it wasnt finger genjutsu GG. I just listed that as one of the advantages itachi has has here. Regardless if even if he knew how breaking out is still going to take time. Time in which he can either take out or critically injure tobirama (Again One hit k.o sword). Dont slaughter my posts with your inability to understand them.
But Naruto at that point wasn't still Jonin level. And even if he was his defense against Genjutsu is still notably weaker than those of skilled and analytical Shinobi.

I am not sure how much stronger his Genjutsu would be if he was a real person.

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Space Time or not doesnt matter. Itachi manhandled KCM naruto the same KCM naruto who was keeping up with A who was rivals with a guy the most famous space time jutsu in naruto.
Well, Space time matters since it can be used in more than one way!!!

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Again shield which blocks 'everything' one hit k.o sword. amaterasu/tsukuyomi. Im not the one out of my mind if think itachi loses against the third.
In the first post it says that Itachi can't use full Susanoo, so I am not sure whether he can use all those powers!!!

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The problem with his water jutsu is that his yata mirror can block easily. And those arent high level compared to users like kisame and mei.
But Itachi can't use full Susanoo.

And these are high level Jutsu, considering that he used Jutsu with a single Handseal which usually requires over 40 Handseals!!!
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I will agree that Itachi wins because of feats.
This is true, though we all know that Tobirama would most likely split him in half
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]But the way that the first post in this thread is written, it seems like you can use hype as well.
Tobirama is mostly hype.
Common logic tell us that he's haxx, even if it's hype.
Finger raised = the ground splits
One hand seal Water Dragon....nuff said.
FTG one shots on Izuna...nuff said.


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It says who do you think would win and to give a reasonable explanation. Usually, using only feats is not a reasonable thing to do.

So I believe hype could be used in this debate as well.
Hype could be used, I agree.
In such one sides feat threads, hype is inevitable.
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Itachi does have many powers but that alone is not enough to win.
I agree.
People overestimate Sharingan, it's so stupid.
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Well, considering that two of them were the first in their clan to awaken Mangekyo Sharingan, I'd say Izuna was very strong. And also Izuna was claimed to be second while Madara was the first. Just like Hashirama was the first in their clan and Tobirama was the second.
Itachi said Izuna was always competing with Madara to see who's stronger.
He had MS, MS = auto haxx.
Also hype, though.

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And the reason Izuna died was Tobirama.

So, it wasn''t just an ordinary battle!!!
It was an all out battle between many warriors.
War, basically.



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I am not sure what you are trying to say. Tobirama did show to be very smart and skilled.
Hokage = skill
Lords don't choose random ass people to lead one of the most powerful cities in the world.
What idiot would let, say for example, terrorist Sasuke to lead it?
No one would.

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But Naruto at that point wasn't still Jonin level. And even if he was his defense against Genjutsu is still notably weaker than those of skilled and analytical Shinobi.
Naruto was always lame at chakra control and genjutsu.
Simple mind tricks were enough to one shot pre-Kyuubi bond Naruto.




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Well, Space time matters since it can be used in more than one way!!!
FTG = OP
As seen with Minato blasting Obito to kingdom come.


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In the first post it says that Itachi can't use full Susanoo, so I am not sure whether he can use all those powers!!!
He can use Full Susano'o, but not Perfect Susano'o like Madara.


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But Itachi can't use full Susanoo.
He can. He can't use Perfect one.
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And these are high level Jutsu, considering that he used Jutsu with a single Handseal which usually requires over 40 Handseals!!!
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And needs no water nearby.
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