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Old 04-24-2013, 10:31 AM   #1
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Default Will Kakashi Come Back The Same -Tobi's Agenda

First of all, I fear for you KHY....

Here's some deduction that could give us a glimpse into Obito's agenda...

While some are hoping there will be a discussion about rin; and Obito will change...I'm thinking quite the opposite... Yes, there will be some enlightenment on the rin case...

* Obito knows very well, that Kamuing Kakashi wouldn't help anything... Kakashi has the ability to come back... so why'd he attempt it...

** Unless he himself planned on staying in the Kamuiland with Kakashi to deal with him, there's no reason for him to Kamui Kakashi again...

***Obito said that It's about time, maybe he should become the Juubi Jinchuriki



For Madara to be successful...he needed an ally...Until he found Obito right?

-Now, Obito is certain madara isn't playing along right...so Obito is planning on doing his own thing from now on. But he can't do it in front of Madara so He'd have to go Into Kamui land...To do so, he'd need a diversion so Madara isn't suspicious...That's why He Kamuid Kakashi there...

Now, In chp 628, Naruto called Obito a loner, which provoked some expression out of Obito obvioiusly...He's a loner and he can't win in this Game alone...Madara isn't an ally anymore...

So what is Obito looking for? I say an Ally
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Guess what, there's no Other person to play this role but Kakashi Hatake...


Remember this interview with Kishi:
(Kishimoto in an interview once said something significant will happen to Kakashi...and he described it's darkness to the color (DARK BLUE)..)

... I think at this Point, just as Sasuke has become "good", Obito will do something to Kakashi to make Him Fight On his side thus Kakashi becomes "bad"...

Kishi is very symmetric in his thinking...and always tries to keep balance so I can see a switch over between sasuke and Kakashi...

As far as what Obito is going to do...I have a few theories but I won't put them here yet...

So yea, Kakashi might NOT come back the same... He might come back as a help to Obito against his own will... More HAXXED and FUN under Obito's control... Yea, I know...it's far-fetched...

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Old 04-24-2013, 11:08 AM   #2
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i think there's a higher probability of obito killing kakashi than of him turning kakashi into a villain.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:31 AM   #3
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^Not a villain... but a TOOL
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wah waoh woah back that truck up! Kakashi turn against everyone as a tool....thats like blasphemy! I mean I love the idea, but its still crazy! so Sasuke turns good, Kakashi turns to the other side, its like a mid season trade...idk if that would actually happen but it would be nuts to see!
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Highly doubt Kakashi will suddenly switch sides.
He has Naruto and the rest of the fodders to protect, and to keep his promise.
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what i'm saying is...he would be forced to... Remember how Itachi was forced to protect the village or how Nagato was forced against his will as Edo Tensei....

That's the kinda force/tool I meant...
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what i'm saying is...he would be forced to... Remember how Itachi was forced to protect the village or how Nagato was forced against his will as Edo Tensei....

That's the kinda force/tool I meant...
That would require a functional Shisui MS, which both are now destroyed. So i think that would be impossible
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He won't give in that easily!
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Simple.

Have a lengthy battle with Kakashi, Kakashi loses.

Obito uses a Zetsu with dead Kakashi.

Edo'd Kakashi, kind of hard to believe, but it IS possible that this stupid jutsu could be used one last time.
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Not bad, not bad at all but... Kakashi wont die, again. He's already been dead once, somehow he'll get back to the fight but I think he'll kill Obito and take the other eye.

Imagine, Kakashi with 2 sharingan...

This won't happen but a man can dream right?
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I don't understand the reasoning for Kakashi not dying.

because he died already? For like 10 chapters?

No, he can die, but if he's Edo'd, he's technically still there to the viewers, he might even pull a Madara...
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Another reason he can't perish.

Angry fans will storm Kishi's office and home.
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That would require a functional Shisui MS, which both are now destroyed. So i think that would be impossible
Edo Shisui?

Tobi still gained Shisui's destroyed eye, and I don't see why he couldn't use Edo tense I other than a needed sacrifice.

I felt like Shisui needed some screen time, he has the most powerful genjutsu and all he gets his name mentioned and less that a minute of screen time.
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almost everyone else has come back. bring back izuna too while they're at it.
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I think kakashi will kill obito the same way he killed rin. He will use the same words obito told him when he was younger: "Those who abandon their friends are worse than scum."
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I fixed that comment for you Daph xD ^
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:00 PM   #17
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I think kakashi will kill obito the same way he killed rin. He will use the same words obito told him when he was younger: "Those who abandon their friends are worse than scum."
except kakashi is not really on obito's level (and this is coming from a huge kakashi fan). even with the help of guy and naruto he wasn't able to faze obito.
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almost everyone else has come back. bring back izuna too while they're at it.
As long as Danzo is not brought back. I want him to remain untainted by the Kishi zombie dreck.
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That would require a functional Shisui MS, which both are now destroyed. So i think that would be impossible
remember I said in the thread that I know how Tobi was going to do this...I just didn't want to mention it... See how much mention of madara was made before Tobi showed up to say he is Madara?

Kishi isn't mentioning shisui's Name in vain... He's building his character at his absence at the moment...Too many flashbacks of him to the point that even when Kagami is mentioned, Shisui had to be linked to him...

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Well...I hope he doesn't either... either ways, I'll still be rooting for him...


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Simple.

Have a lengthy battle with Kakashi, Kakashi loses.

Obito uses a Zetsu with dead Kakashi.

Edo'd Kakashi, kind of hard to believe, but it IS possible that this stupid jutsu could be used one last time.
I think an Edo Kakashi that doesn't have to worry about chakra lost would be too deadly

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Not bad, not bad at all but... Kakashi wont die, again. He's already been dead once, somehow he'll get back to the fight but I think he'll kill Obito and take the other eye.

Imagine, Kakashi with 2 sharingan...

This won't happen but a man can dream right?
haha...Actually...there's no way kakashi can kill obito... secondly, kakashi can't handle two sharingan...he'd die while trying to warp himself back to the real life...as a matter of fact he'd end up in limbo if he attempted that... But then again, i had a theory recently about this...
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Yea...i got a bit bored..

So, Obito dies before Madara!... but with his last strength, and kakashi laying almost dead, Obito Warps Kakashi into the box dimension....

Many Chapters later, Kakashi returns with Both Mangekyo Sharingan, Senju Hashirama's tissue on his right leg that got previously severed... so now he can spam MS...not only that, the best part is KAKASHI's SUSANOO, with white flames...

Afterall, Obito's sharingan is the best! so it's susanoo, would be the most awesome..
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only this time...Obito doesn't die...

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Edo Shisui?

Tobi still gained Shisui's destroyed eye, and I don't see why he couldn't use Edo tense I other than a needed sacrifice.

I felt like Shisui needed some screen time, he has the most powerful genjutsu and all he gets his name mentioned and less that a minute of screen time.
This is very close to what was in my head when I wrote this theory...lol...but yea...shishui MUST represent for sure!

When Obito used the Edo Tensei Jinchuriki for 6 paths he made a comment like "The new 6 paths of pain composed entirely of Jinchuriki...Not entirely to my taste but whatever..?


If Nagato used completely dead bodies, And tobi managed to used Edo Tensei (who are both dead and alive) I have little doubt that Tobi can use A living body for The 6 path system afforded by the rinnegan... Afterall, didn't NAGATO say he could control Naruto with just his chakra...and Naruto was living... Nagato only failed because of the Kuubi's power...But it's TOTALLY POSSIBLE

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almost everyone else has come back. bring back izuna too while they're at it.
Yep...ET is like Nen from HxH... it has too much possibility.... And Kishi didn't have Tobi learn it in vain... ...

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except kakashi is not really on obito's level (and this is coming from a huge kakashi fan). even with the help of guy and naruto he wasn't able to faze obito.
Agreed...for sure

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As long as Danzo is not brought back. I want him to remain untainted by the Kishi zombie dreck.
lol...i'd have thought you'd want to see your dear Danzo...but, it's true, his gray character should remain intact
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Did Obito warp them or was it Kakashi who removed Obito from the battlefield?

I like where you're going with this, but I can't see Kakashi being "used" by Obito. We don't even know the real story behind the Kakashi/Rin issue, which we will come to find out, but Kakashi has already been affected enough by their deaths to think that now all of a sudden Obito will have some massive negative impact by using Kakashi.
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