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Old 05-04-2013, 08:24 AM   #21
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I forgot this is pre susanoo Sasuke. Yea Kakuzu stomps so bad here. He will realize Sasuke has gengutsu after Sasuke takes out 1 heart but Kakuzu will get right back up and turn this fight into a massacre.

Pre pain arc Sasuke and Naruto are close range fighters while Kakuzu prefers long range and mid range and can easily outclass Sasuke in taijutsu

Also Naruto and Sasuke make a horrible team. They'll be arguing while the hearts fight together just fine.

Sasuke can't read hand signs as fast as Kakashi so he wont know that domu is an earth release technique.

Naruto without sage mode or rasenshuriken is useless here. What is he going to do fly in the air and blitz a heart? All his clones will be taken out by 1 typhoon or fire wave.

Kakuzu wins this after losing 1 heart because of gengutsu.
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:25 AM   #22
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That is the point, they function well together and would not split up, I am not sure about him using Kirin however, but I think Naruto and Sasuke win.
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That is the point, they function well together and would not split up, I am not sure about him using Kirin however, but I think Naruto and Sasuke win.
Kirin requires a a ridiculous amount of prep. Sasuke had to have a fire vs fire fight with Itachi just to be able to create a cloud big enough for kirin. Kakuzu doesn't just use fire release moves like itachi. Sasuke has to deal with 3 other element spams and Kakuzu will easily gun him down. Naruto gets soloed by 1 heart.

Also the hearts DO split up. What are you talking about? The lightening heart was chasing Shikamaru while the other 2 was chasing Kakashi.

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I just realized something. If sasuke gets killed naruto's going tailed beast mode and raping.
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That's basically what I said, I said I am not sure about him using Kirin like one person defending Naruto and Sasuke in the debate.
They are both fast enough to dodge the spams and are both pretty clever characters. I don't think so, again clones could just cause a massive problem for Kakuzu,, read the post I made towards the end of the last page.
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If Naruto gets in a death-barring situation then he'll just turn into the Kyuubi and rape Kakuzu.
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Kakuzu has shown insane speed blitz feats through that entire arc.
Speed is relative. Tobi's performance against is far more impressive on speed.

Kisame's reflexes have been more impressive reacting against Base Bee.

Itachi is obvious. Pain is obvious.
Even Deidara reacted to Sasuke's shunsin.

I am not saying Kakuzu can't, but the few speed feats he has, his best one is technically blitzing Kakashi at point blank. (maybe with shunshin)
and his thread speeds were too fast a close range.

Kakuzu may be a fast character but he doesn't stand out in the Akatsuki.

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This didn't occur in the manga not like it matters even if it did.

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Tsukuyomi - can only affect 1 heart and he has one shot. whilst using it other heart will burst out and attack him
Who in their right mind would use Tsukiyomi on a heart?

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Kirin actually requires little chakra to use. Its the set up that requires alot but Sasuke became exhausted largely because he used Oral Rebirth which uses up a lot of chakra.

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If Naruto gets in a death-barring situation then he'll just turn into the Kyuubi and rape Kakuzu.
He only goes kyuubi when he loses control of his anger. He couldnt go kyuubi at will.
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How does that help your case topchef?


If he is about to die he will go kyuubi, if Sasuke is about to die or does die, he will go kyuubi even as a last resort, Naruto and Sasuke win.
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How does that help your case topchef?


If he is about to die he will go kyuubi, if Sasuke is about to die or does die, he will go kyuubi even as a last resort, Naruto and Sasuke win.
Did he go kyuubi when Kakuzu was about to rip out his heart? No.

His bond with Sasuke and whether or not he will go kyuubi for him is debatable.
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He went kyuubi 4 tails because Orchimaru was talking about sasuke. If sasuke dies he'll go full nine tail rampage.
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He did it against Haku for Sasuke, and because there were like 5 people there to help him out.
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Pre Pain arc sasuke still has CS2 and Kirin.

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Not mention its easy to prep when you have someone with you who can make hundreds of clones and can summon a giant frog the size of a bijuu.
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Is there anything they can do to counter his fire + wind combo?

Naruto doesn't have sage mode..
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No, they just have cursemark mode, and Bijuu mode. Nothing major at all though. Basic dodging skills have been enough to dodge and they are both pretty fast characters. The fact of the matter is what will Kakuzu do with 100+ clones coming at him in different directions some using win style: rasengan while Sasuke Amaterasu's from a distance.
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We discussing pre pain arc naruto & sasuke so i dont think sasuke has amaterasu.
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No, they just have cursemark mode, and Bijuu mode. Nothing major at all though. Basic dodging skills have been enough to dodge and they are both pretty fast characters. The fact of the matter is what will Kakuzu do with 100+ clones coming at him in different directions some using win style: rasengan while Sasuke Amaterasu's from a distance.
This is pre pain arc... No Bijuu mode, no curse mark. Sasuke doesn't have that anymore. So, yeah.

Kakashi only nearly escaped it because of his water jutsu, which still wasn't enough to stop it really. Kakashi had actually lost the fight but Shikamaru's blood swap plan with Hidan saved him.

I mean clones are blasted away by kakuzus large AOE jutsu..

Only way i Sasuke and Naruto winning is if Kirin is prepped along with ammy but they both ooc
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