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Old 04-29-2013, 01:25 AM   #1
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Not even Itachi can beat Pain. Sasuke couldn't even beat Deidara, one of the weakest members.
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amaterasu is his only hope...but it get pushed awy
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Whoa whoa whoa. The underestimation of Sasuke here is astounding. Not saying he wins yet but it'd be damn close. High level genjutsu (which happens to be Pain's weakness), adept at close combat (counters Preta and Human Paths), strong mid to long range techniques (matches Asura Path), top tier defensive technique (buffers effects of Deva Path), and large scale instakill MS technique (counters Animal Path). All of this in addition to Sasuke's tactical genius is a very dangerous combo.

He can defeat any one of the paths if he gets a clear shot, I just think the all out ambush and lack of intel makes it too much. Itachi and Sasuke are both top notch 1v1 but fights like this put them at a disadvantage and Sasuke is no Itachi as we've come to see.
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Not even Itachi can beat Pain. Sasuke couldn't even beat Deidara, one of the weakest members.
Dude Deidara was the third most broken character in the Akatsuki. You need to be a sensory type ninja and be able to fly to avoid c4 micro bombs.
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Sasuke did manage to avoid the micro bombs with quick thinking. But Pain is on a completely different level. Could Sasuke keep up with Pain reviving his multiple paths? Plus the one path of Pain that can absorb jutsu would come in handy. Sasuke's genjutsu isn't really stellar. Itachi's was better. The Sasuno'o would be important. But the attack speed with the bow isn't really fast and Pain could use his Gravity style moves to just bury Sasuke in a ball. Like he tried with the Nine Tails. The amaterasu is only isn't really capable of coming close to Pain.

End product: Sasuke does his best. But soundly dies.
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Pain has knowledge of genjutsu though, because the frogs tried it with Pain and he instantly Bansho tenin'd the frog, Sasuke is pretty powerful but it is still a curbstomp.
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Dude Deidara was the third most broken character in the Akatsuki. You need to be a sensory type ninja and be able to fly to avoid c4 micro bombs.
Pain, Itachi, Sasori, Kakuzu and Kisame are all stronger than Deidara so I guess that makes Deidara lower tier

All of them are broken.. but the top five are like Kage level monster broken.
Hidan in a lot of ways is "broken" but at the end of the day he's still considered a weakling (not that I agree).
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Sasuke will know Pain. Pain to the world. This isn't much of a fight.
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EMS Sasuke is supposed to be above MS Itachi and Pain.

However he needs to spam Susanoo Arrow and Amaterasu to keep up.
Because his base skills are rather inferior to Pain and Itachi which is ironic because Sasuke actually has shown superior ninjutsu repetoire to Itachi.

Pain is obvious why he is above Sasuke unless Uchiha keeps using the strongest Susanoo with Arrows and Amaterasu.
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You mean Deva Pain (Yahiko)?

Sasuke could easily use Tsukuyomi and win it with Amaterasu.

When Sasuke obtained the EMS, he pretty much gained his brothers amazing Tsukuyomi prowess.

If Pain uses CT, Sasuke can just burn it with Amaterasu, which can burn anything. Or fire Susanoo Arrows.

If Pain uses ST to push Sasuke in air, he could just summon a hawk.

If Pain uses BT to pull Sasuke in, he can just use Susanoo and fire a Susanoo Arrow to his advantage.

People underestimate Sasuke's full power, he's never gone "all out" before.
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You mean Deva Pain (Yahiko)?

Sasuke could easily use Tsukuyomi and win it with Amaterasu.

Sasuke's Tsukuyomi is not powerful enough to stun Pain long enough to use Amaterasu (which Pain could always ST anyway).

When Sasuke obtained the EMS, he pretty much gained his brothers amazing Tsukuyomi prowess.

I'm pretty sure that's not true. It doesn't matter whose eye a person has. It comes down to their effective use of the jutsu, and Sasuke is not good enough to use Tsukuyomi like Itachi can. Because Sasuke's version does not control time like Itachi's, one of the paths could run over and kill him while he is focusing on one Pain.


If Pain uses CT, Sasuke can just burn it with Amaterasu, which can burn anything. Or fire Susanoo Arrows.

Amaterasu doesn't have enough destructive power to stop CT. It took Naruto, Killer Bee, and Itachi attacking it for it to dissipate.

If Pain uses ST to push Sasuke in air, he could just summon a hawk.

And then what... Swoop down for an attack that's just going to get absorbed or shinra tensei'd?

If Pain uses BT to pull Sasuke in, he can just use Susanoo and fire a Susanoo Arrow to his advantage.

I would think Preta Path could just absorb it.

People underestimate Sasuke's full power, he's never gone "all out" before.
He didn't go all out versus Orochimaru, Deidara, Itachi, Killer Bee, the 4 Kages, or Danzo?

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Since when. I understand Danzo broke out of Sasuke's Tsukuyomi effortlessly but that's a man with over half a century of battle experience, a sharingan of his own, and mastery over one of the strongest genjutsu in the series. Pain has none of those things and has shown susceptibility to genjutsu. I think ever since that Danzo fight people think Sasuke's genjutsu is something to laugh at. With just ordinary sharingan genjutsu he was able to go toe to toe with Itachi who's base sharingan genjutsu almost had Naruto choke himself to death. Sasuke even one-upped that feat when he caused a genjutsu specialist to almost suffocate at the Kage Summit. Bee probably would have been downed for a significant period of time if he wasn't immune to most genjutsu.

If you're trying to say that he can't keep a path pinned for the fraction of a second it takes to use Amaterasu you're being ridiculous.

Other than that I agree with everything you said.
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I don't see how Tsukiyomi is going to affect Pain in the first place.

Unless you want to argue Mental Torture can transfer its effects across the chakra waves into Nagato from the paths.
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Unless you want to argue Mental Torture can transfer its effects across the chakra waves into Nagato from the paths.
Ha ha. I hadn't thought of that. As for the Amaterasu idea. Sasuke can keep up a steady stream of it while Pain can create a burst.... and then wait 5 seconds. that 5 secs would be crucial to Sasuke.
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I thought it was known that eye based genjutsu doesn't work on Pain? Anyway pain stomps Chibaka Tensei....gg
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Ha ha. I hadn't thought of that. As for the Amaterasu idea. Sasuke can keep up a steady stream of it while Pain can create a burst.... and then wait 5 seconds. that 5 secs would be crucial to Sasuke.

Well that mainly against Deva Path, Sasuke only has to worry about PReta Path absorbing Amaterasu. Considering he will always be surrounded somewhat he is likey going to use Susanoo quite often.

As for 5 seconds.

5 seconds isn't a short time for ninja the problem is that Pain is at least one similar speed tier with Sasuke so the Uchiha isn't going to out maneuver unless he goes direct hand to hand to combat against most bodies.

Not all bodies are the same though Asura Path for example is way different to PReta Path who isn't a taijutsu oriented or Human PAth which is clearly taijutsu oriented body.

EMS Sasuke is supposed to be superior to Pain but we haven't seen much of it yet.

I suppose though in EMS Sasuke can spam Amaterasu and Susanoo Arrow with greater ease and as long Pain doesn't break his Susanoo he should be fine.

Which comes to the problem of CST and CT.
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