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Old 04-21-2013, 08:00 PM   #1
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I got into a disagreement on another site where people kept saying Arceus would own the Phoenix Force (not the host) and that apparently the Marvel universe is weaker than the pokeverse. What do you guys think?
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Arceus becomes the phoenix bish. No lube.
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Didn't Arceus create the Pokemon universe tho?
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Didn't Arceus create the Pokemon universe tho?
So everyone claims.
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Phoenix is multiversal.
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There are also some who believe Arceus is a multiversal especially if you by the anime version.

The thing is though Arceus seems rather a glass cannon for such universal+ level being.

I know the creation trio and Arceus are supposed to be limited in power normally when they go around but still.

Anywya Topchef where did you hear those claims?
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There are also some who believe Arceus is a multiversal especially if you by the anime version.

The thing is though Arceus seems rather a glass cannon for such universal+ level being.

I know the creation trio and Arceus are supposed to be limited in power normally when they go around but still.

Anywya Topchef where did you hear those claims?
On a gamefaq tread, comicvine thread, seribii, and bulbapedia says that he may have created the entire pokemon universe but there's no proof.
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No I am talking those who said Arceus would own Phoenix Force.


Arceus creating the pokemon universe is based on the Sinnoh myths and pokedex information if I recall.

It may come true though in likelihood. Its more implied obvious in the anime version.
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No I am talking those who said Arceus would own Phoenix Force.


Arceus creating the pokemon universe is based on the Sinnoh myths and pokedex information if I recall.

It may come true though in likelihood. Its more implied obvious in the anime version.
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You have to realize that is more an ability aspect if that is true. Look at the pokemon celibi that manipulates time another example of glass canon. Pokemon abilities don't exactly reflect their durability, speed and physical stats. But good luck arguing that.
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So Phoenix rapes? (have a hard time seeing a cosmic horse winning)
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You have to realize that is more an ability aspect if that is true. Look at the pokemon celibi that manipulates time another example of glass canon. Pokemon abilities don't exactly reflect their durability, speed and physical stats. But good luck arguing that.
Arceus can be lvl 9999 and know every pokemon move there but he will still lose to the Phoenix Force. This isn't even wank, just read her powers, abilities, and scans are more than enough for her to solo the pokeverse. If I sound like I hate pokemon then I'm really sorry because I love pokemon and always have. Unova sucks though.
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Why am I not surprised its a gamefaqs thread. I know that place is quite diverse in posting sections but anyway.
But that thread is pretty bad especially for those who support Arceus.

All they have is going by conceptual logic. Concepts mean nothing if you can't back it up.

It could be possible that Arceus could do all those things but if you go strictly by feats Arceus has nothing.
The Movie version makes him both look weaker or stronger depending on how you choose to interpret it.

Also conceptual wise you have Arceus is universal at best. Anime version could boost it up to low multiversal depending on how you see it but anyway.

There is so much of lack of understanding its not even funny. And Lord and behold its Pokemon Gamefaqs section.

The thread is not one sided though there are some who gave it to Phoenix Force.



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You have to realize that is more an ability aspect if that is true. Look at the pokemon celibi that manipulates time another example of glass canon. Pokemon abilities don't exactly reflect their durability, speed and physical stats. But good luck arguing that.
I really prefer fan interpretation of the creation Trio and Arceus, makes them look more powerful than the canon versions.

Although in the anime version, yet Palkia and Dialga have their own universes.


I guess they are glass cannons to some degree.
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