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Old 04-17-2013, 07:53 PM   #1
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-Prep of 5min=Jiryria uses this prep to GET READY to use Food Cart Destroyer

A friend and I were talking about this. He LOVES Jiryria and I LOVE hashirama. And I thought Hashirama would win....but then my friend brought up the point of Food Cart Destroyer!

Which is like the ultimate GG

So basically how does Hashirama counter a giant toad falling inches above him?
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Wood? lol
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Tsuande got split in half and is still alive. Senju DNA does the trick. lol
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The dude countered the strongest bijuu and the strongest uchiha with absolutely ease.

He can summon giant buddha statue hands in mere seconds

has super strenght and can heal without handseals

Not to mention wooddragon which also one upped kyuubi(again stronger then any boss toad will ever be)

How is this even a debate?

Im only leaving this open because im curious for the answer to the previous question
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The dude countered the strongest bijuu and the strongest uchiha with absolutely ease.

He can summon giant buddha statue hands in mere seconds

has super strenght and can heal without handseals

Not to mention wooddragon which also one upped kyuubi(again stronger then any boss toad will ever be)

How is this even a debate?

Im only leaving this open because im curious for the answer to the previous question
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. The bolded stuff is either false or irrelevant to this debate. The question here is entirely 'can Hashirama react in time to the technique'? I seriously doubt Hashirama wouldn't be able to react at all to the Food Cart Destroyer technique. If it was such a good opener Jiraiya and Naruto would use it in every battle. It's mostly been used against giant summons that had their attention elsewhere. So yeah, Hashi is definitely the winner.
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Ok kinda got caught in the moment with the super strenght thing but still Wood Dragon > Frog
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Thing about food cart destroyer is that you have to tag th enemy or get above the enemy to actually get it to hit the enemy. that's not gonna slide with hashirama.
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Tsuande got split in half and is still alive. Senju DNA does the trick. lol
better to be split than to be squished

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Wood? lol
Toad lolz

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The dude countered the strongest bijuu and the strongest uchiha with absolutely ease.
okay that is totally different from a toad above your head.

He can summon giant buddha statue hands in mere seconds
You do realize he has to go into SM before that which takes more than "mere seconds"

has super strenght
what feat did you get that from
and can heal without handseals
hype...but I believe it

Not to mention wooddragon which also one upped kyuubi(again stronger then any boss toad will ever be)
Dropping a frog is faster. It requires no hand sign nor blood contract. It is in an instant while Hashirama has to make a hand seal which it takes time to form the wood dragon.

How is this even a debate?
it would be if people don't wank Hashirama

Im only leaving this open because im curious for the answer to the previous question
it was barely a question. But okay thanks
How does Hashirama react to an attack he has no knowledge of and is in an instant??

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The question here is entirely 'can Hashirama react in time to the technique'? I seriously doubt Hashirama wouldn't be able to react at all to the Food Cart Destroyer technique. If it was such a good opener Jiraiya and Naruto would use it in every battle.
it is bloodlusted so its OOC. They probly don't use it cuz of plot.
It's mostly been used against giant summons that had their attention elsewhere. So yeah, Hashi is definitely the winner.
How does hashirama win? Its not IC so jiryria would use it to win. Hashirama can not react. Barely anyone can.

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Ok kinda got caught in the moment with the super strenght thing but still Wood Dragon > Frog
Wood dragon can not react and be made fast enough to counter Toad

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Thing about food cart destroyer is that you have to tag th enemy
when did anyone tag the enemy to use the jutsu??
or get above the enemy to actually get it to hit the enemy.
KM Naruto was not above Zetsu when he used it on him
Jiryria was not above the boss snake when he used it
that's not gonna slide with hashirama.
Hashirama is AWESOME...but he would let this slide since he can not react well enough.
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Default Re: Food Cart Destroyer vs Hashirama

PoP-you're using faulty logic here. Just because FCD hasn't been evaded by anyone doesn't mean it can't be evaded. IIRC it's only been used three times. Once on a giant snake summon by Oro, once on a bunch of White Zetsu, and once on the Ninetails, who obviously didn't suspect an attack coming as it didn't know Minato could warp to its location and summon a toad on top of it (he also doesn't have all that impressive speed and reactions when not linked with Naruto IIRC)
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I know hat it can be avoided and just because it hit its target does not mean it will always. That was not my logic at all

So how does hashirama counter without knowledge or prep or reaction feats or something.

The only way hashirama could win is if he is like Yamato and zetsu and can travel in the ground but it would cut it close
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@PoP You realize food cart destroyer is just summoning jutsu right? All it is is summoning the toad above the enemy. They can't summon the toad in a location other than where they use the jutsu.

And yes Jiraiya did use it above the snakes. Chapter 124 page 9, the ninja hear Jiraiya's voice up in the sky and the toad falls down

And yes Naruto did as well. How do you think Naruto was standing, or hell, ANY of the users of the jutsu were standing on top of the toad they summoned when they used FCD? They jump over the enemy and summon..

Ad Hashirama enters sage mode in literally seconds
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Didn't Minato summon it over Kyuubi, while being away from the Kyuubi?
Was that just anime? I can't recall.
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Nope, chapter 503 page 10-11
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Then you can get away from Hashirama and summon Gama on him, but it doesn't matter, Hashirama is too haxx.
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It took him seconds to go into sage mode didn't even meditate
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Oh I see it now. So when jiryria jumps up HASHIRAMA will...
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He starts prepping Sage Mode on Page 10 (Chapter 621) and enters it two pages later after a conversation with Madara.
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Oh, no, GK is right. Didn't notice that before.
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Yeah, it's pretty easy to miss, but I'm always on the look out for corner panels that focus on specific actions, because they often become relevant later. Like how the close up on Itachi's MS during the fight with Kabuto signified the first 'snapshot' for Izanami and I think the close up on Madara's EMS in Chapter 626 is somehow related to how he tricked Hashi into thinking he was dead.
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I am pretty sure in actuality Jiraiya would use this 5 minutes of prep with full knowledge to either flee Hashirama or go into Sage Mode for automatic Toad Song.
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