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Old 02-24-2013, 11:36 AM   #1
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THIS IS NOT OVER! This goes out to all of the people who THOUGHT PTS Kakashi would beat Neji.
How can Kakashi win when all of his attacks are useless?
Earth Style
Like I told Shikamaru Nara , using the dogs to go underground or even himself is uselss. Neji can see them clearly with the bykugan. Neji did not see Naruto underground because his bykugan WAS OFF at the moment. Even if Kakashi got Neji from the ground Neji would use Rotation to attack him from underground or as soon as Kakashi touched Neji Kakashi would be hurt because Neji would use Body Blow.

Genjutsu-FAIL
Have you ever noticed that most people must stand still to use genjutsu!!! Kakashi could use minor genjutsu with his sharigan. He used it on Kakashi to freak him out on Zabuza’s lack of knowledge of the sharigan. Since Neji’s style of fighting is a kekki genki the sharigan is not very helpful. Seeing a copy of himself will not be effective with Neij’s knowledge of the sharigan. Kakashi also has the demonic genjutsu he used on Sakura. But that jutsu is even worse! Kakashi has to form hand seals AND get close to sharigan AND!!!! Stand still. That is SUICIDE! Neji would easily hit Kakashi with Air Palms if Kakashi were to dare get that close and stand still no less. I do realize Neji can not see thought genjutsu but He can realize that he is in one and with his great chakra control he can break out of it or at least cause himself minor pain.

Taijutsu-SUICIDE
I think we all know that Taijutsu is stupid for Kakashi to use. Kakashi does not have impressive taijutsu feats. Afterall he got kicked far away by Zabuza. Kakashi does not have a lot of taijutsu feats. He was almost taken over by a PTS Saskue afterall.
Dog Summonings-Animal Abuse
Not only is it OOC for Kakashi to use the dogs but it would be cruel to summon them against a foe like Neji. The dogs barely have feats. Neji can defeat them all. Gentle fist would K.O the dogs. Even if they did get close or make contact Body Blow or Rotation would send them flying. Neji can always see the dogs and with Air Palms he can attack them from afar.
Lighting Blade-Another fail
LIGHTING BLADE IS NOT SUPEIROR THAN ROTATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I honestly can not believe some of the “top debaters” would suggest this. Chidori and lighting Blade are VERY SIMILAR. And Rotation is even better than Garra’s sand! Chodori got though the sand yes…but it barely just made it to do damage on the user (Garra). Do I need to explain Rotation to you? Tenten Explains it best and here it is: “Right before the attack lands he releases a LARGE AMOUNT OF CHAKRA from hakra openings thoughtout his body which STOPS THE ENEMIES ATTACK! He then spins like a top to blast the attack away.”-TenTen talking about Neji’s rotation
So when The lighting blade hits the spinning dome it would cause Kakashi to be sent flying. Even if Kakashi were to pierce it then what? It is a SPINNING sphere afterall Kakashi would still get hurt. Kakashi could still not hit Neji.

Bykugan and Chakra Control
Neji can see the amount of chakra in lighting blade. Neji can adujust and add more power to the rotation to make sure the Rotations surpasses the Lighting blade. Afterall the best defense is the better offense. Neji has even better chakra control than most jonnin. Normally control of chakra from the chakra openings is diffucicult of jonnin they can barely release chakra like Neji from their arms and legs. But with gentle fist and due to Rotation Neji can release chakra from everywhere of his body

Eight Gates-FEATLESS
We knowKakashi can only open one gate but Neji kept up with Lee and Kakashi using this in battle is featless

Mutli clone-Featelss
Neji kept up with Naruto's clones and Kakashi has not use this in battle so its OOC

Sharigan
PTS Kakashi has low stamina. It is even OOC for Kakashi to use the sharigan with opponents he has little knowledge of or sees as a threat in a 1v1 even when he is not protecting others. The sharigan takes a massive toll on his body. It consumes too much chakra which puts Kakashi even at a more disadvantage.

So how does Neji win…..AIR PALMS!
It would take Kakashi even more chakra from the sharigan to see it and react to it. Neji is moving too fast so he will depend on the sharigan to foresee his movements which causes even more chakra and exhaustion. Eventually Kakashi will get slow and get hit by Air Palms. Lighting Blade is usless and he can not hurt Neji

@Joon- thanks for the good thread
@People who say Kakashi would win-Please tell me how cuz I know your wrong. I am not that bad of a debater that everyone thinks
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Mark my words I will be back with a way to prove you are wrong.
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Attacks him from underground huh? Even is the earth is compound to prevent it and by that time a kunai in his neck? Never though about it.

Why is this up? You could have just posted it on the actually battle thread. But OK.
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From what I have read,...
This technique is only effective when rotating, since the chakra itself is not enough to stop a physical attack thus if they cannot spin, the user becomes vulnerable.

So if he is underground he can't just spin at the drop of a hat...
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Oh and also just to get this out the way with without going off topic. Rotation is in no way superior to Gaara's sand. I don't even need to say evidence to back this up, because I don't think a single person on the forum will agree with you when you say rotation is better as a defence as Gaara's sand.
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I know its hard to believe but its true (at least its stronger than PTS Garra sand)

Saskue's chodori got though the sand and piereced Garra
on the other hand
A rotation would have reflected the direct attack

Garra's sand automatically protects but when the sand is hit there is a less guarantee that it will protecte
Neji's rotation is a 360 degree atack and once it is hit it will reflect the attack away

@SS

the thread was locked so I could not post in it. Also idk what you are trying to say. Even if NEji is standing still he can still reflect things like kunai and punches while standing still. Afterall re-read the Neji vs Kidomaru battle. Neji reflected/moved the web weapons while barley moving.

idk what you mean by this..
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So if he is underground he can't just spin at the drop of a hat...


Overall Neji wins
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PTS Kakashi vs TS Neji is a tough fight.
They are both Jonins. Hyuuga clan is the strongest in Konoha so it's a bit of hype on Neji's side.
Kakashi copied 1000 jutsus, but we've seen him use 20.
Also, Kakashi's ninjutsu is superior, while Neji's taijutsu is superior.
Neji's Byakugan is superior to Sharingan as stated in part 1.

Kakashi's way of winning is ninjutsu + genjutsu combo. He gets close....Neji kills him. GG.
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Were does everyone get he has low stamina?
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The fight with Zabuza where he used the Sharingan and put himself in bed.
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But people relaise he did fine with Itachi. The sharingan also takes a lot out of the user. It takes chakra just to be out.

He also didn't have a hard time fighting PTS Sasuke. That is bull. But Kakashi is also fast, minus him always being late.
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I sincerely believe Kakashi could beat Neji, but...

Did well against Itachi? You mean the fight where he got taken out before it started?

I'm pretty sure Neji is a lot better than PTS Sasuke....
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I sincerely believe Kakashi could beat Neji, but...

Did well against Itachi? You mean the fight where he got taken out before it started?

I'm pretty sure Neji is a lot better than PTS Sasuke....
1) During the entire fight he was has worn out as bad. But scratch that.

2) No he mentioned he taijutsu was so bad that he had some of a hard time with pts Sasuke. That is not true.
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Which once again... could have been posted on the Neji vs pts Kakashi
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Im not to sure if it was cannon, but Kakashi should know rasengan, which could potentially defeat neji's rotation. Both attacks are rotating spheres,they should at very least cancel each other out. Rasengan- concentrated ball of energy, rotation is a larger ball of which potentially makes it less dense than a rasengan and the fore a rasengan should break through. Also where are they fighting? Is there water nearby if so Kakashi can use water dragon justu and hidden mist, which may reduce neji's ability to see. If hidden mist works then either summon hounds or surprise chidori should win. Also about the dogs, I always get confused when people assume rotation is infinitely powerfull. It is definiatly in kakashi's ability to summon dogs as a distraction, and force neji to do rotation on dogs and then chidori for win or vice versa, point is multiple dogs and kakashi+shadow clone is to much for neji's defense in my opinion. Or any mix. Point is I believe in a battle Kakashi using summons would outsmart neji, considering his plan vs pein, his ability to percieve tobi's weakness and so on.

Is it any more cruel to summon dogs against neji than it too summon them against Zabuza The Demon of the Mist??
Kakashi can win with summons, mabey rasengan, chidori vs rotation is controversial, and tactics. nevi has air palms ( whats their power again, I know kyubi enchanced air palm is strong, but I never imagined regular air palm beating anyone significant. Neji is a baby jounin, Kakashi has been one for years, was anbu captain. thats all I have to say, anyways good job on creating a good topic!!
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