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How does Kakashi use that to kill neji
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A Genjutsu + Raikiri combo should be able to take neji out. Kakashi has no chance with just his taijutsu.
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Since when could Kakashi used genjutsu. He had nothing on that level to take out neji. Also with bykugan neji would know he is in genjutsu. Neji would not even make eye contact.

Like I said if Kakashi gets close rotation or 64 or palms ends it
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Since the first bell test and the episodes/chapters after that.

Everyone knows that they are in a genjutsu even without dojutsu ,why wouldnt neji make eye contact?
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I'm almost positive byakugan sees through genjutsu.
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I dont remember that ever being claimed. Nor an byakugan user that ever was fighting a genjutsu user.
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I know Kakashi can use genjutsu but he used it on boy crazy Sakura. Neji is a jonin. He is not as foolish. And the bykugan can see though genjutsu. When hinata engage tobi she checked if there was a genjutsu taking place.

Neji would easily break out if genjutsu with his chakra control
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If she can see through any genjutsu anyway how would she notice that someone was trying to put her in one. The only thing she could do is check the chakra network for disturbances but that doesnt mean she can see through them just see if someone is in an genjutsu.
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Your right that's what I was trying today there. Plus Kakashi genjutsu was on a lower level. They do not cause harm
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Byakugan has shown some ability to see through genjutsu. Chapter 394 pg 15, ch 459 pg 15. It can even see through the jutsu placed on the 4th mizukage.
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Ao probably noticed that yaguras chakra system was disturbed. I doubt obito perceived ao as an actual threat.

We cant be for sure on hinata as she never was under an genjutsu.
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So how does Kakashi win?

When Kakashi fought team 7 he was using lower rank ninjutsu. He was going easy on them. He easily caught a distracted frantic Sakura with genjutsu. And the way Kakashi was saying the Jutsu was low level. Sakura leaned about genjutsu but he was not thinking clearly

Kakashi also used genjutsu on zabuza but it was not anything major. Kakashi's genjutsu would not harm the foe in anyway possible. Plus neji has the bykugan an he is an elite jonin so that kind of genjutsu won't work

Kakashi does not have the speed not reaction to get past a hyugga taijutsu style.
Lighting blade is the only thing we saw Kakashi kill a foe with and he needs to be close up which is suicide!

Without lighting blade Kakashi can not win. He does have the sharigan to help him dodge and react better but just because Kakashi can see it does not mean he can react in time.

And giving an air palms or 64 palms would be impossible to react to

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I dont remember that ever being claimed. Nor an byakugan user that ever was fighting a genjutsu user.
Yeah I misperceived it.

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Elite jonin? Neji was just an regular jonin -.-

The genjutsu doesnt have to harm neji (which most genjutsu dont do as they are illusions) it just has to create an opening for a raikiri through the chest.

He doesnt have to react while neji is immobilized/trying to escape an genjutsu. As neji will be temporary defenseless.
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Neji could take down most Jonin. Especially Ebisu who was an elite jonin. I dont mean he was elite like Ebisu and his job title but Neji could take down Asuma and Kureani for example. Maybe even Kakashi without kaumi

I knowz but the opening would not be big. And the best genjutsu harm the user mentally. Kakashi used D-rank level genjutsu on team 7. Do you really think It will take that long to realize and for Neji to break out of genjutsu? Leaves coming out of nowhere is a huge give away. Plus Kakashi has to stand in place to use genjutsu.
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I cant believe you dont explain why neji would win
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Byakugan has shown some ability to see through genjutsu. Chapter 394 pg 15,

ch 459 pg 15.

It can even see through the jutsu placed on the 4th mizukage.
Oh yeah, now Obitos Kamui is a Genjutsu.

All Ao saw Shisuis Chakra under Danzos Eye Bandage and deducted that Danzo uses it.

Genjutsu affects a persons cerebral system which is a part of the Chakra System thus of course a Byakugan user sees through it.Doesn't mean it works on themselves as they are the center point unless you can provide a panel where a Byakugan user has shown to look within themselves.


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Since way back during the Bell Test against someone who is stated to be the Genjutsu type.
And don't give me "Lol it was Noob Sakura", she perfectly disrupted Kabuto's Genjutsu and is stated to have tremendous Chakra control.

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Neji would not even make eye contact.
No he wouldn't.You're just misinterpreting Ao.

Kakashis Genjutsu didn't require Eye Contact.



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As for Rotation did it ever block a non physical attack?
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Default Re: Neji vs PTS kakashi

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Since way back during the Bell Test against someone who is stated to be the Genjutsu type.
tat weak ish aient going do ish on Neji (ghetto talk)
Seriously though Kakashi has to stand still to use that genjutsu.
Petals are an obvious genjutsu plus Neji would know he is in genjutsu. ANd what genjutsu would effect Neji? There is nobody else on the field.

No he wouldn't.You're just misinterpreting Ao.

Kakashis Genjutsu didn't require Eye Contact.

You guys are SERIOUSLY overestamting Kakahi's genjutsu. It is a D-rank genjutsu afterall that caught PTS SAKURA of all people

afterall there is a possiblity that Neji has no major fears or anything that would effect hiim much via fear. Neji was scared of his clans issues (not really) but not that it is resolved he has no know fears

Neji would see his chakra flow is disturbed and release it.

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It's in my post stop playing dumb, I mentioned about Sakura.

So what if it's D-Rank?
So is Body Flicker we know how great it is.
Learn from Zetsu, it's all up to the user.

Other D-Ranks are Hidden Mist Jutsu or Kibas Beast Clone and Tsuga.
Heck even Orochimaru used D-Rank Jutsu with great effects.
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