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Old 02-01-2013, 05:08 AM   #41
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the why did one eye go blind when he use that jutsu to place kabuto under genjutsu?
Because that doesn't damage the eye like regular MS jutsus, that seals the eye, which is unaffected by being an edo.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:30 AM   #42
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Default Re: Could Itachi have gotten an EMS if he wanted to? A: Yeh

izanagi/izanami always seal away the eye that uses, no matter if it's MS/EMS or any sharingan.

@DrKage Yes I find the sample size too small. All Uchiha's are family. But is it close relatives that allow an MS to turn into an EMS only? There was only ever two cases, so it's not certain yet.

@Rikudou Sage.... Yes I see where you're coming from. But Madara and Izuna could also have swapped eyes to gain EMS each then, no?
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Because that doesn't damage the eye like regular MS jutsus, that seals the eye, which is unaffected by being an edo.
Yup, what this guy said.
Izanagi/Izanami caused blindness is not normal. It seals the Sharingan and the eyesight.
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@Rikudou Sage.... Yes I see where you're coming from. But Madara and Izuna could also have swapped eyes to gain EMS each then, no?
That's a good point.. But we still dont have a valid proof to deduce that "simply" transplanting MS that comes from anyone within the Uchiha clan can progress MS to EMS. All I know is to gain EMS you need your brother's MS. For now I consider this correct until proven false.
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Default Re: Could Itachi have gotten an EMS if he wanted to? A: Yeh

Ok, and I'll continue research... hehe
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Default Re: Could Itachi have gotten an EMS if he wanted to? A: Yeh

Ok imma solve the 1 eye argument. Yes itachi could have had 1 ems. Why cuz the fact that both kakashi and obits have 1 ms. Toni has 1 ms and a tinny so it's very possiable that itachi could have 1 end and ms. Someone said his sussano would change. True but it would get stronger considering the ms is what allows him to have it. Madara has his brothers eyes and his sussano is a beast.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:49 PM   #47
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Oh yea the reason I say it's possiable is because they said only Uchiha could get ms and at that time only 3 had ever unlocked it. Now kakashi a non Uchiha unlocked a ms how should that be possiable. The only known way to get ems is from siblings it is said but only 1 was recorded by then. So that was a proven method. The rinny was suppose to be the most evolved from sharingan but Nagato yet another non Uchiha was able to obtain it. I know someone's gonna say he was a uzamaki which are decendents from the so6p but if that's the case then any shinobi can since everyone can trace their lineage from one of the two brothers.
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Default Re: Could Itachi have gotten an EMS if he wanted to? A: Yeh

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If Itachi took Sasuke's MS eyes, he'd have gotten the EMS. If Itachi took Sasuke's eyes before he had MS, no EMS.

As for Shisui and his MS, that's a good question. Madara said something about it needing to be brother's or family eyes, but really, how could he know that? When he got his EMS, the only other person in the world who had MS was his brother. Until Obito and Kakashi had the same MS eyes, the only people that had MS were Itachi and Shisui, followed up by Sasuke getting it. Now, Sasuke has EMS because he had Itachi's eyes implanted. So in the only two cases of EMS, they happened to be brothers eyes.

But we could just be looking at small sample size. I really don't know and could make a case either way. MS is MS and who cares, you get a second set and BAM!, EMS. Or you need to be clsoely related so the MS isn't rejected, but Kakashi isn't even an Uchiha and got MS from an implanted Sharingan, so are they really that picky?
so it just has to be the person you most care about.
It does not have to be a brother or family member, I have proof because when Rin died obito obtained the MS so it just has to be the person you most care about.
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Thats probably the reason why Kakashi killed Rin. Because he had to obtain MS. The only way to do that was to kill Obito's best friend. Which, obviously, was Rin.
How would Kakashi have any knowledge of this? He killed her because he had to most likely. At that point in time, even Obito had no knowledge of MS
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Default Re: Could Itachi have gotten an EMS if he wanted to? A: Yeh

Kakashi didn't unlock MS. I believe that Obitos eyes are forever linked. So when Obio saw Rin get killed by Kakashi. MS was unlocked and since the Sharingan Eye Kakashi possesses is from Obito.. It was unlocked in him also.
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i have a question... what happens to all these eyes lol? madara took his brothers, what did he do with his old pair of eyes?.. why not give them away right? Maybe if all the uchiha just switched around eyes they could all be ems lol. saves some violence for sure :P Sasuke got itachis eyes, where are his old ones? in a mason jar somewhere?
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did tobi put them in all those jinchuriki? did i miss that part maybe
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nah, that wouldnt account for the rinnegan they had
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i have a question... what happens to all these eyes lol? madara took his brothers, what did he do with his old pair of eyes?.. why not give them away right? Maybe if all the uchiha just switched around eyes they could all be ems lol. saves some violence for sure :P Sasuke got itachis eyes, where are his old ones? in a mason jar somewhere?
from the looks of it, a mason jar isn't that far off...
But I don't think it would work if everyone switched eyes around...it would be way uncool too.
Also, the fact that no one thought of doing it before denotes that there may be some other kind of reason why they couldn't do like you suggested.
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i have a question... what happens to all these eyes lol? madara took his brothers, what did he do with his old pair of eyes?.. why not give them away right? Maybe if all the uchiha just switched around eyes they could all be ems lol. saves some violence for sure :P Sasuke got itachis eyes, where are his old ones? in a mason jar somewhere?
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from the looks of it, a mason jar isn't that far off...
But I don't think it would work if everyone switched eyes around...it would be way uncool too.
Also, the fact that no one thought of doing it before denotes that there may be some other kind of reason why they couldn't do like you suggested.


There's a cool theory that the 'extra' eyes are absorbed. I think either Kalmeast or Paradigm1977 came up with and made a thread of it
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Obito had all those Sharingan eyes in what appeared to be jars.. There was an episode where Sasukue had Itachis eyes transplanted and the wall in the backround was well a wall of eyeballs. Cannot remember the episode atm.. Though it could have been around the same episode, but it was with Obito and the Rinnegan eye transplanted at the time.. Somewhere around there.
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