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Old 01-20-2013, 08:45 AM   #1
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They are both intellegent obviously. But Shika's jutsu isn't going to be very effective against the sheer mass of bugs.

Shino would be able to beat Shika cause I can't think of a way for Shika to beat him
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I say Shino.
Even if Shikamaru got a hold on Shino, the bugs will still be moving. I don't know how Shikamaru is going to defeat a swarm of them.
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Tie.

Shika drills holes through shino with his shadow/snaps his neck meanwhile shika gets drained
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^would shika maintain enough chakra to do that...also Shino could use a bug clone
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He had enough chakra pts he will have enough chakra now.

Shika can also use exlosive bags and those blinding bombs. Also he can shadow stitch anything he sees so clones wont matter much.

Edit: Scratch that shika managed to bind V2 ginkaku or kinkaku idk idc. Shino is toast anyway. I dotn see shika shadow stitching/explosive tagging all bugs so shikas toast in the end too.
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I say Shino has a bigger chance of winning.

Shikamaru has to stand still while he's using his jutsus, allowing Shino's bugs to eat away at his chakra in the meantime. If Shikamaru uses the neck binding technique, the bugs would still be draining him. The neck binding technique weakens with each passing minute anyway, so the bugs would just weaken it more.
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He had enough chakra pts he will have enough chakra now.

Shika can also use exlosive bags and those blinding bombs. Also he can shadow stitch anything he sees so clones wont matter much.

Edit: Scratch that shika managed to bind V2 ginkaku or kinkaku idk idc. Shino is toast anyway. I dotn see shika shadow stitching/explosive tagging all bugs so shikas toast in the end too.
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Shino totally wins especially within the FOD with all of the bugz

Shino can send out multiple bugs faster than Shikamaru can send off his shadows

NOBODY has escaped Shino's bugs (besides Tobi) people have escaped out of and avoided being captured by Shikamaru's shadows

Shikamaru usually needs help to capture his foes.

Shikamaru can not evade the mutiple fast bugs and definielty can not break out when caught

Shikamaru will not be able to make a plan cuz the bugs will be sensing him and attacking
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He had enough chakra pts he will have enough chakra now.

Shika can also use exlosive bags and those blinding bombs. Also he can shadow stitch anything he sees so clones wont matter much.

Edit: Scratch that shika managed to bind V2 ginkaku or kinkaku idk idc. Shino is toast anyway. I dotn see shika shadow stitching/explosive tagging all bugs so shikas toast in the end too.
Shadow stitch is way too slow to touch Shino.
Also, to date, I'm not sure we've seen Shika use it in real motion.

The only time I can think of is against Hidan, but they weren't in motion when he actually caught him, they were like...frozen in the air. Shino isn't very fast, but you don't have to be to dodge Shika, and that's his downfall.

Shino's attacks barely use chakra considering the fact that it's a parasitic bug doing all of the work, not an actual jutsu. Compared to Shino's chakra reserves, Shika just won't be able to keep up in the event of a stalemate. He'll run out of chakra before Shino does.
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The forest puts Shino at a larger advantage (even though he would win with or wihtout it)

Shino's bugs are quite and quick not to mention sneaky. Idk how Shikamaru would notice it.

The forest does have shadows but Shino is also tatcial and would watch out for it not to mention his bugs are there to help out

In a pinch Shino was bug clones to confuse his foe.

Shikamaru is NOT winning this. He would need prep at least and get close which he can not afford to do
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Shikamaru rarely wins 1v1 battles and if he does the opponent was dumb or it was for plot
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A place with a lot of trees is advantageous for both sides, perhaps more so for Shikamaru seeing as there's going to be alot of shadows. Plus, they already know each other's general abilities.
However, Shino's bugs will suck him dry before Shikamaru can do anything to him, bind or no bind. Especially if he has no prep time to decide his strategy.
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Shino totally wins especially within the FOD with all of the bugz

Shino can send out multiple bugs faster than Shikamaru can send off his shadows

NOBODY has escaped Shino's bugs (besides Tobi) people have escaped out of and avoided being captured by Shikamaru's shadows

Shikamaru usually needs help to capture his foes.

Shikamaru can not evade the mutiple fast bugs and definielty can not break out when caught

Shikamaru will not be able to make a plan cuz the bugs will be sensing him and attacking
Shino has nothing to do with the bugs in the forest of death.
Prove it. And no tobi doesnt count as he was totally playing around.
Shika was fast enough to dodge a suprise attack from kakazu. How fast is shino again?

NOBODY has dodged konohamarus rasengan /seewherethisgoes.
Give me a speed sample besides tobi(who was agin playing around not to mention shino had an entire team backing him up).

Same could be said of shinos insect sphere. Besides that he managed to capture hidan a superior opponent by himself.

Again neither can shino.

How does him being sense /attacked inhibit thinking?

In addition to all this shika can use his shadow to distract shino while he himself attacks.

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Shadow stitch is way too slow to touch Shino.
Also, to date, I'm not sure we've seen Shika use it in real motion.

The only time I can think of is against Hidan, but they weren't in motion when he actually caught him, they were like...frozen in the air. Shino isn't very fast, but you don't have to be to dodge Shika, and that's his downfall.

Shino's attacks barely use chakra considering the fact that it's a parasitic bug doing all of the work, not an actual jutsu. Compared to Shino's chakra reserves, Shika just won't be able to keep up in the event of a stalemate. He'll run out of chakra before Shino does.
Shikas shadow stitch was fast enough to inetercept hidans 'suicide' attempt. That speed should suffice for shino.

Shika doesnt have to keep up anything as soon as he pins his shadow down with a shuriken/kunai/jutsu he uses shadow stitch and drills through shino killing him.
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I'm not sure actually I've learned to never doubt Shikas intellect especially if he finds some range and comes up with a plan, I think its just a matter if Shika would be able to beat Shino before running out of Chakra.
Would be a very interesting fight, I've thought about this quite a few times before I'm not sure who takes it though..
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Not when they're surrounded by trees. There's no way that Shika's going to be able to hit Shino with a shadow before the bugs hit Shika. The cool thing about Shino's technique is that since the bugs are living just as much as Shino, they don't stop when Shino stops. There are so many bugs that once Shika is surrounded by them he won't be able to touch Shino. Eventually they will sap all of his chakra up and he will die.

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I'm not sure actually I've learned to never doubt Shikas intellect especially if he finds some range and comes up with a plan, I think its just a matter if Shika would be able to beat Shino before running out of Chakra.
Would be a very interesting fight, I've thought about this quite a few times before I'm not sure who takes it though..
I tend to take intellect with a grain of salt, especially when it comes to battles. Assuming that someone will be able to get out of a bind is not a good basis for an argument since it's circumstantial. It would be like saying that Obama wouldn't have so many issues with the economy if Bush hadn't been President. Who knows? Bush sucked, but that's not what I mean. I mean, who's to say someone worse than Bush could have been elected and the economy could have been worse? Or someone better and the economy gets better?

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The distance is 30m which is nothing for shinobi on top of that shikas jutsu also works with shurken/kunai.they both close the distance shika captures him with his shadow>shadowstitched and then shika gets drained > tie.

The trees also make it harder for the bugs to find shika. It works both ways.

Shino has never used that many bugs. The most he used was vs tobi that that clearly was not alot.
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Good point! I guess we'll never know though it seems as though the majority is with Shino but like you said it's circumstantial
I think if there was prep time Shikamaru would take this though
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In addition to all this shika can use his shadow to distract shino while he himself attacks.
Distract shino how? All shino has to do is send his bugs to shikamaru. The bugs will either crawl on the gorund or fly to get to shikamaru. Once they're on him, the end.
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That's if the bugs didn't get to him first and drain away his chakra...
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Distract shino how? All shino has to do is send his bugs to shikamaru. The bugs will either crawl on the gorund or fly to get to shikamaru. Once they're on him, the end.
Yes, Shino. Not Shino's bugs

That's if the bugs didn't get to him first and drain away his chakra...
All shika has to do is send his shadow to shino. I dont see your point. He distracts him the same way he distracted hidan.

Hence the tie.

give an example of the bugs speed.
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Shino has nothing to do with the bugs in the forest of death.
it does not hurt. There are other insects and animals so it would be harder to detect them. The bugs are sensors so they can find Shika first. The bugs are nimple and can hide and are pretty quick
Prove it. And no tobi doesnt count as he was totally playing around.
Tobi would still have gotten caught if he did not have the intagiablity
Shika was fast enough to dodge a suprise attack from kakazu. How fast is shino again?
Who cares how fast Shino is its the bugs that have the speed. And what chp. did Shik do that??

NOBODY has dodged konohamarus rasengan /seewherethisgoes.
That is TOTALLY different and you know it. Even kakashi praised the ability and the capturing rate of the bugs. Kakashi never said that about Konohmar /seewherethisgoes

Give me a speed sample besides tobi(who was agin playing around not to mention shino had an entire team backing him up).
What's your point. Most of the time SHikamaru had a team backing him up when he used his shadows. He only won ONE 1v1 battle. What speed sample of what?

Same could be said of shinos insect sphere. Besides that he managed to capture hidan a superior opponent by himself.
FALSE!! (well kinda)
Shikamar needed prep and field advantage and his team to help him capture Hidan by himself. And Hidan is not that superior he is the slowest of the akasuki his kinjutsu was sloppy and poor. He was just immortal nothing special besides that

Again neither can shino.
can not what??

How does him being sense /attacked inhibit thinking?
It's in the forest so Shino can hide easier and not be sensed then Shik cuz the bugs sense him

In addition to all this shika can use his shadow to distract shino while he himself attacks.
too bad Shino just attacked a bug clone
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