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Old 01-18-2013, 06:24 PM   #1
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Default Sasuke and Itachi could possibly be related to Madara.

This is just a theory. Looking back on all the Shippuden episodes, as far as I've known, Sasuke and Itachi are the only one's who have shown to have a similar prowess close to that of Madara, although Itachi was one of the most gifted Genjutsu artist in all times, besides Shisui who IS the greatest. I believe that Sasuke and Itachi are in somewhat of a way related to Madara, why? Madara is the only one before Itachi and Sasuke to be able to use Susanno, Susanno requires a rare bloodline, and needs a unique special type of prowess to achieve it, Obito/Tobi said that it's very rare for an Uchiha to be able to use Susanno and Amaterasu. Madara was the only one with those unique abilities, I don't know about his brother Izuna.

And the most important piece of all... Kyuubi said it. It was when Sasuke entered Naruto's subconscious, the Kyuubi saw Sasuke's prowess and related him to one person. Madara Uchiha.

This again is a theory, it's possible for sure though.
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Since they are Uchiha's it's pretty much a given.
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Default Re: Sasuke and Itachi could possibly be related to Madara.

yes, plus they have to know how to do it too, they are the ones how had enough guts to do something that was going to cost them dearly.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:28 PM   #4
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Default Re: Sasuke and Itachi could possibly be related to Madara.

It was an assumption from the very moment and first time I saw the Kyuubi say that Sasuke's eyes are just like Madara.
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Default Re: Sasuke and Itachi could possibly be related to Madara.

Lol I get what your saying. All Uchiha are related but your trying to say that they could be a direct bloodline descendent not just a cousin or Uchiha member. It's a pretty good theory though, sounds like something Kishi would do.
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Wasn't Madara banished when he defied the treaty? I'm sure they chose another leader of the clan after that. Sasuke and Itachi are his descendants.
Madara never came back to Konoha.
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Default Re: Sasuke and Itachi could possibly be related to Madara.

stated this theory a while ago.. mainly based on the susano.. sasuke/itachi inherited that from madara (great or great great grandfather). kurama saying that sasukes eyes were similar to madaras is like a confirmation of this. on a side note, i think itachi is the greatest ninja parallel with minato.
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Default Re: Sasuke and Itachi could possibly be related to Madara.

Like Maruko said, that couldn't be possible since Madara left Konoha after his defeat against Hashirama, and never returned. If this is the case, what other Uchiha woman could he gotten pregnant with, and how come sasuke's family all live in konoha?

Edit: Unless Madara already got someone pregnant before his fight against hashirama
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Before or after Madara's existence, there's no other Uchiha member's who's activated their Mangekyou and used, Susanno, Amaterasu or Tsukyuomi except Itachi or Sasuke. Amaterasu and Susanno are beyond rare jutsu's. Madara was unique. You gotta look at it this way. Look at the similarities with Madara Sasuke and Itachi, all of whom can use all the abilties I just said and are the only one KNOWN to use them. Check that one off. Who has the prowess to tame the Kyuubi? Madara, Obito and Sasuke. Itachi, I've never seen him be able to detain a Bijuu and control it or shut it down. Now you're probably wondering why I said Sasuke. "He's never CONTROLLED a Bijuu." that same episode that Kyuubi told Sasuke that his visual sharingan prowess is that to Madara's. Sasuke surpressed the Kyuubi not allowing Naruto to interact with the Kyuubi in his subconscious. That itself says Sasuke's prowess can control the Kyuubi, though.. We don't know that and will probably never know that. But I don't believe Obito is related to Madara, he doesn't have the bloodline ability to use Susanno, Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.
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Of course Sasuke and Itachi are related to Madara. They are from the same clan and they all can awaken the sharigan. Also you can tell they are all related by the fact that they both have the Uchiha Fan on their clothing and they have jet black hair which the Uchiha Clan are also unique for. And most of the clan members can use Fire Release.
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Of course Sasuke and Itachi are related to Madara. They are from the same clan and they all can awaken the sharigan. Also you can tell they are all related by the fact that they both have the Uchiha Fan on their clothing and they have jet black hair which the Uchiha Clan are also unique for. And most of the clan members can use Fire Release.
look at what I said bud, that's what he's trying to say.
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There from the same clan. And share a bloodline trait. Nah thank you for pointing it out for me.
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Well geez. There from the same clan.

So there related.
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There from the same clan. And share a bloodline trait. Nah thank you for pointing it out for me.
Not true. If someone marries out of clan then the bloodline isn't the same. Duh.
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Look you cant change the fact they got sharingan and from the same clan. Duh!
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That is the giving... Where are you trying to go after that?
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Look you cant change the fact they got sharingan and from the same clan. Duh!
In clan system, they marry each other within the clan to keep the bloodline pure.
Sharingan is Uchiha kekkei genkai which only elite Uchihas can unlock.
If one Uchiha marries some random girl the bloodline of the child wouldn't be pure Uchiha and Sharingan wouldn't be possible within the child.

That's just my theory.
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In clan system, they marry each other within the clan to keep the bloodline pure.
Sharingan is Uchiha kekkei genkai which only elite Uchihas can unlock.
If one Uchiha marries some random girl the bloodline of the child wouldn't be pure Uchiha and Sharingan wouldn't be possible within the child.

That's just my theory.
I see what your saying, but then again think of it in our terms. Two parents marry; One has jet black hair with green eyes and is about 5'10, one has brownish/black hair with also green eyes and is 5'5. They have two kids, the first kids has blonde hair with greenish blue eyes and is 6'2, the second kids has jet black hair with green eyes and is also 6'1.
Obviously the one with blonde hair sticks out and the height of the two kids, but thats just Biology and genetics. I would say the samething applies here where as Sasuke and Itachi both surpass their parents in strength which they could have obtain through their grandparents as part of genetics.

I can't think of what the correct term for this is but its common.

PS. It's a response to the pure bloodline and marrying out of clan.
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:58 PM   #20
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Default Re: Sasuke and Itachi could possibly be related to Madara.

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In clan system, they marry each other within the clan to keep the bloodline pure.
Sharingan is Uchiha kekkei genkai which only elite Uchihas can unlock.
If one Uchiha marries some random girl the bloodline of the child wouldn't be pure Uchiha and Sharingan wouldn't be possible within the child.

That's just my theory.
Haku's mother was of a bloodline while his father was not, yet he still inherited his mother's kekkei genkai. Also if you look at the 3 Uchiha who interrogate Itachi over Shisui's death, one of them had white hair instead of the usually black, so he probably wasn't pure blood Uchiha, yet he still had the Sharingan.
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