Spoiler 2012 Reviews & Hopes for 2013

[Hakuren]

I'm sure Tobi had a plan of pulling Tsuki no Me off. Without or with Kabuto, he had planned it all even before Kabutoro's involvement.

Because that Kabuto joined the Akatsuki side (Against the Shinobi Alliance), it simply boosted the plan success to a higher percentage. Plus, plot not jutsu was pulled to include Kabutoro and the Edo Tensei against the Alliance.

[mrsticky005]

This was Obito/Kakashi's year.

Next will be Naruto/Sasuke?

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by Hakuren

I'm sure Tobi had a plan of pulling Tsuki no Me off.
.. yes he did but the plan SUCKED
Without or with Kabuto, he had planned it all even before Kabutoro's involvement.
Just because Tobi had a plan did not mean it was a GOOD PLAN. True but even Tobi admitted that with the help of kabuto the plan was MUCH BETTER! Yes Tobi did have a plan but it sucked compared to what Kabuto had in mind.

Because that Kabuto joined the Akatsuki side (Against the Shinobi Alliance), it simply boosted the plan success to a higher percentage.
Yeah from 0% to 85%
Without kabuto Tobi would not have a way to bring back Madara!!
How would Tobi take on an Army with just himself and an incomplete Zetsu?????
Gedo Maze could not take out an army
Wihtout Kabuto
- Tobi would not have a sample of the Kyubbi's chakra
-The kages would still be alive
-Tobi would have gotten defeated by Naruto and Killer B a LONG time ago
Plus, plot not jutsu was pulled to include Kabutoro and the Edo Tensei against the Alliance
Not only plot but the fact that it would have been IMPOSSIBLE without the help from Kabuto
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The war would have been SOOOO LAME without Kabuto

and for that we thank him

[paradigm1977]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Tobi would have FAILED if it was not for Kabuto.
(Tobi was backed up by the Edo tensi Jinjurki. Kabuto also made the zetsu stronger)

Madara would not be here today without Madara
(Kabuto revived him with edo tensi)

FACE IT THIS IS THE YEAR OF KABUTO

Very good point, and I don't think was ever brought up, until late/now. What was Tobi gonna do without kabuto and his ETs? Just the clones would have been stomped once Naruto came back. Without ETs the artifacts are never brought to the field, so Tobi never gets the portion of the 9 tails to ressurect the juubi. The same juubi that Tobi can't control on his or Madara's own. And Madara isn't back because Tobi hasn't had time to teach Sasuke rinne, so he can replace Nagato.

Big flaw. Essentially this war would already be over if Tobi led a bunch of clones.

Kishi never came up with a good plan for Tobi to overcome Naruto in the story. It was simply that Tobi's two man teams were all defeated and that's that. Or he progresses to clones and losses anyway.

Kabuto sayed Tobi's @ss.

I agree, your arguments have won.

[PrinceofPeace]

^Thanks for the compliment bud

Naruto or Bee or Onoki or even Tsuande or Ay or Garra or the Akamichi or almost any ninja could solo the White Zetsu army
*NOTE: Kabuto powered up the Zetsu army*

This is not Kakashi nor Obito's year. You only thing that! It is an illusion!!!
Think about it Kakashi has only been EXTRA important in the recent chapters.... he did not really do that much or anything special besides the last 7 chps.

Obit just phases in and it. He has been behind the scenes mostly and he is NOTHING without Kakash, Madara, and KABUTO!!

[Hakuren]

And as we can see- Kabuto was just merely used by Tobi even if he stepped in to his fate eventually by Itachi.

Kabuto's own plan ended up as a failure.

[PrinceofPeace]

Oh was Kabuto being used? Kabuto forced Tobi into a corner and made everything tougher for him. Tobi was forced to be on his toes constnatly. Heck if Kabuto wanted he could have killed Tobi on the spot!!

Yes Kabuto's plan did fail but it was A WHOLE LOT BETTER than Tobi's plan

Tobi would have lost to Itachi and Saskue anyway

[Hakuren]

"Would have killed Tobi on the spot" "lost...anyway..."

lol you are underestimating Tobi's abilities. Besides, we don't need childish kids who get so hyped up when someone is on their side.

Your posts only make me laugh now and burst some brain cells.

[PrinceofPeace]

not would COULD. And Kabuto did not lose to Tobi he lost to the Uchiha bros... which tobi would have as well. Tobi knew if Itachi found it he was obito that Itachi would have KILLED HIM

what abilities? Phasing in and out, teleporting and summoning are not much

how am I hyped?

Your post do not have any reasoing at all just you being a fangurl

[Hakuren]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

not would COULD. And Kabuto did not lose to Tobi he lost to the Uchiha bros... which tobi would have as well. Tobi knew if Itachi found it he was obito that Itachi would have KILLED HIM

what abilities? Phasing in and out, teleporting and summoning are not much

how am I hyped?

Your post do not have any reasoing at all just you being a fangurl

Hyped by getting a mere "compliment" when in truth, you can't even debate worth crap. I've seen this and it's awful to have members as idiotic as these...

Anyway, guess who's fanguurrrlling if she keeps posting "OH KABUTO SO WINS!!1! HE WAS BEAST!! (overestimation statements inserted by said fangirl)"

Even if Tobi can do that, no one can truly "decipher" his jutsu without being able to evade into the other dimension. Whom, Kakashi only has access to, other than Tobi himself.

[PrinceofPeace]

So who do YOU think the year was for?

[Hakuren]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

This was Obito/Kakashi's year.

Next will be Naruto/Sasuke?

It would be great.

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

So who do YOU think the year was for?

Obito/Kakashi's year, as stated in the quote above. It was going to lead up to that point sooner or later.

[PrinceofPeace]

Just because they are getting attention for the last 10 chps does not make it their year

Kabuto singlehandily made the war exciting. Obito would not have gotten so far if it was not for Kabuto.

What did Obito and Kakashi do?

[Hakuren]

I did not simply called it their year because of their appearances.

I called it because they had character development done. Without Kakashi, Naruto and company would still be struggling to figure out Tobi's jutsu.

Tobito makes the plot more interesting now that he revealed himself and Kishimoto took this chance to properly show how Obito is Tobi tying with other matters in such as Rin's death, origin of Zetsu, Madara, and so on.

As you say that it was Kabuto's year but all for the wrong reasons. Kabuto approached and began his ET strategy in 2011. All he did this year was continue the ET until he got stomped over by Itachi and failed his plan.

What you were rambling so much about occurred not in 2012, but the year before it. Tobito and Kakashi developed much more than he ever did this year.

[PrinceofPeace]

really what was the first chp in 2012

where or when ever things began I still would not give it to Kakashi or Obito just for one scene.

Obito fought Kakashi Naruto bee and Guy with the help of the edo's for most of the battle.
The edos are thanks to Kabuto
Obito has barely fought 1v1. He has but just for a couple chapters. The only thing he has shown was his intangibility and not any other impressive feats alone.

Kakashi is being OP and granted random power ups. He is being pretty impressive and was sshocked to find out who Tobi REALLY was. Kakashi also found out how to hit Obito.

yes they have both done a lot... but it was all cramed into a few chapters.

Kabuto's progess has been constant. He even helped bring back oro. We saw a huge part of Kabuto's past and how he implanted genes of the Oro gang. He took on The Uchiha bros and still manged to control edos across the land.

[Fuuin]

I feel like it was Naruto's year personally. Him and Kurama finally teaming up was the most significant thing to happen in my mind. We all knew it was inevitable, but it didn't disappoint IMO. That and Naruto broke Obito's mask and trolled us all with his true identity, so FU Naruto! J/k.

But as for 2013...all I care about seeing happen is....

Toads!!!