Importance of symbolism in Kishi's work. Discuss

scallanan · 12-13-2012, 03:16 PM

PLease discuss..

e710 · 12-13-2012, 03:42 PM

Whenever he puts symbolism in the story he takes the time to discuss it on panel.
Ex.1) When Iruka told Naruto about headbands and gave him his headband when he believed he had earned the his trust in graduation.
Ex.2) KB's fist bump is a sign of deep understanding and friendship with him which had a whole back story to it.
Ex.3) the little poke Itachi does to Sasuke shows that he still cares for him and stuff.

But yeah their isn't really that much hidden symbolism(I might be missing somethings and I know there is way more than just the examples). But most stuff gets mentioned why its so meaningful or if it symbolism something.

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato · 12-13-2012, 05:12 PM

I really love the symbolism in the story

I remember in one scene outside of oro's hideout. A hawk captured a reptile. Meaning Sasuke defeated Oro

Vivi · 12-13-2012, 05:48 PM

Well near every Mangaka does it.

Actually, Naruto is sometimes said to be too symbolic.
Some would argue Sasukes EMS resembles the Star of David.
Incidentally none of its representations fit Sasuke.XD

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato · 12-13-2012, 05:49 PM

Also in a recent flashback with the two statues. One for the Uchiha, and one for Senju, or village.

scallanan · 12-14-2012, 05:17 AM

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Whenever he puts symbolism in the story he takes the time to discuss it on panel.
Ex.1) When Iruka told Naruto about headbands and gave him his headband when he believed he had earned the his trust in graduation.
Ex.2) KB's fist bump is a sign of deep understanding and friendship with him which had a whole back story to it.
Ex.3) the little poke Itachi does to Sasuke shows that he still cares for him and stuff.

But yeah their isn't really that much hidden symbolism(I might be missing somethings and I know there is way more than just the examples). But most stuff gets mentioned why its so meaningful or if it symbolism something.

When I meant hidden symbolism I meant this:

"I remember in one scene outside of oro's hideout. A hawk captured a reptile. Meaning Sasuke defeated Oro"

It's the subtle symbolism in Kishi's work that I like the most. When Sasuke was training with orochimaru, he was considered a "snake." When sasuke wanted to move away from orochimaru to continue his own agenda, he set up the group "Taka" or eagle I think it is? Eagles are higher up in the food chain than snakes.. Sasuke kills orochimaru..
There are tonnes of examples in his work. Even the whole problem in the leaf between Uchiha and the elders is a hidden symbol or message. People of higher power are not always "good." A lot of the decisions made, are to help their own agenda, such as when we saw Danzo just taking Shisui's eye for his own means.. It ties in very well with events in real-life, and that's why I like it

Saiyan · 12-14-2012, 01:59 PM

Symbolism of Tobi's mask is the fact he was mourning over his best friend Spiral Zetsu.

It was his mask

R.I.P. Spiral Zetsu, He was #1

InnerSakura · 12-15-2012, 03:53 AM

I dont see half as much symbolism in other manga as I do Naruto. And I watch a lot of anime...maybe too much. lol. Maybe I just dont see it because its not conveyed in the same manner as it is in Naruto or something. Every time Kishi has put symbolism in his manga it makes you feel something. Thats why I prefer to watch Naruto more than I do some anime. And I prefer to read it more too because of that...I just hope Kishi keeps putting themes in his story that have lots of symbolism to them, even though the story is almost over I hope he will be able to squeeze in a few things so I will be happy that the manga ended well.

Noctis Arashi · 12-15-2012, 03:56 AM

The symbolism in Naruto is crude at best, and hardly subtle. When it's there, it's referenced in most cases at least twice. And given a backstory. That's why it seems like there is a lot of it. Because he makes sure you don't miss it.

It irritates me sometimes.

scallanan · 12-15-2012, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by InnerSakura

I dont see half as much symbolism in other manga as I do Naruto. And I watch a lot of anime...maybe too much. lol. Maybe I just dont see it because its not conveyed in the same manner as it is in Naruto or something. Every time Kishi has put symbolism in his manga it makes you feel something. Thats why I prefer to watch Naruto more than I do some anime. And I prefer to read it more too because of that...I just hope Kishi keeps putting themes in his story that have lots of symbolism to them, even though the story is almost over I hope he will be able to squeeze in a few things so I will be happy that the manga ended well.

I'm sure Kishi will keep the symbolism going till the very end. We might learn a few more lessons by the end of the series hopefully!

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The symbolism in Naruto is crude at best, and hardly subtle. When it's there, it's referenced in most cases at least twice. And given a backstory. That's why it seems like there is a lot of it. Because he makes sure you don't miss it.

It irritates me sometimes.

That's for much of the blatant symbolism Kishi throws at us. There's far more than meets the eye, which is a reason why both kids and adults can enjoy it

Noctis Arashi · 12-15-2012, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by scallanan

I'm sure Kishi will keep the symbolism going till the very end. We might learn a few more lessons by the end of the series hopefully!

That's for much of the blatant symbolism Kishi throws at us. There's far more than meets the eye, which is a reason why both kids and adults can enjoy it

I want examples. Otherwise, I fear you're spouting BS.

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