Kurenai vs Tayuya

[PrinceofPeace]

I know gurl. It's ashame that some ppl don't understand ur humor

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

haha yeah, but seriously if Tayuya has to effort into killing Kurenai, it's going to piss her off. you saw how it pissed her off to even have to go cs1.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

The point is TAYUYA WILL FALL TO GENJUTSU!

Tayuya always brags about how her art is unstoppable. It is plenty of time for Kurenai to use genjutsu on Tayuya.

Plus the monsters do not react right away to the music (for the monsters to start/activate)

When Tayuya falls to genjutsu... then what? Is she going to break out of it in time before Kurenai lands the final blow? How well can Tayuya break out of genjutsu? Will Tayuya know it is genjutsu since she only uses audio genjutsu? How will Tayuya cause herself pain in genjutsu? Does Tayuya have good enough chakra control to break out of genjutsu? Has Tayuya ever been caught in genjutsu? Has Tayuya ever been taught to break out of genjutsu? Is Tayuya as good as breaking out of genjutsu as Itachi?
ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE UNKOWN!!!
Tayuya has a lack of feat and we are ASSUMING. Thus Tayuya can not break out of genjutsu

Unlike Tayuya Kurenai specializes in genjutsu. It is her only way of fighting. Kurenai has more experience and a higher rank. Kuernai also has a better idea of the location. Kurenai has better hype cuz Itachi gave her props for her genjutsu.

Tayuya is overconfident and relies too much on her flute. It is her only weapon and she closes her eyes when she plays. Tayuya would not blitz into CS2 or use the monsters ghost right away.

Unlike Tayuya Kurenai has broken out of genjutsu before.

See there's just no talking to this guy.It's really has more meaning to talk to a wall.

Not gonna explain everything several times what I and others said just because it won't go into your head.
And no matter what I say you'll just repeat your nonsense like a broken record.
Matter of fact is Tayuya wins, the only points for Kurenai are already been debunked several times.

Now if a mod may close this or do something as obviously this is getting nowhere with this guy and the actual debaters agree Tayuya wins.

[PrinceofPeace]

What have you done? Its funny how mad your getting. Tayuya has no feats of breaking out of genjutsu and thats that.

[Roy]

Lol, this is just common sense logic, Tayuya is a generic genjutsu base user, you don't think... She could possibly break a genjutsu from Kurenai? I mean... The episode when she broke Itachi's genjutsu, that was just him using her own genjutsu against her, and he wasn't even trying to harm her, lol. It would be a good battle.

[Vivi]

No Roy, It's absolutely illogical that a Genjutsu expert stated to know tens of them knows how to break Genjutsu./sarcasm

[Roy]

Haha, Kuranai's a good genjutsu user, I kinda looked up some stats.. Tayuya's genjutsu is very high.. Higher than Kurenai's, just sayin'...

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Roy

Haha, Kuranai's a good genjutsu user, I kinda looked up some stats.. Tayuya's genjutsu is very high.. Higher than Kurenai's, just sayin'...

Just saying, Databook stats aren't used here or at least well seen especially after the chaos that occured with Kakashis age.

[Roy]

OH!? I didn't know... o.o XD

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Yeah Kishi screwed that one, he needs to fix that and while he's at it take grown woman Rin out of Part one since she now dies at 13 give or take.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Roy

OH!? I didn't know... o.o XD

It's no problem at all.

Databook were never really used in debates.
And it only got worse since the flashback of Kakashis childhood as it contradicts alot.
For example Databook says he graduated at 5 and became a Chuunin at 6 yet he's shown in the Chuunin Exams at around the same age as Part 1 Naruto.
Resulted in massive chaos among fans.

Just thought I'd explain.

[321zigzag3]

You know that moment when a featless character should win based on common sense and hype alone yet its impossible to prove it because the opponent character has plenty of feats while the featless character has nearly nothing.

lol Kurenai

[Roy]

Your metaphor spoke louder than you could explained :O.

[Crair Uchiha]

Sorry the only reason I say Tayuya is because she has the Curse Mark level 2. That is a very lame reason I know, but we have all witnessed how powerful she was in her demonic form.

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Kurenai hasn't shown me much for me to be on her side in this, sorry.

[PrinceofPeace]

So what happens when tayuya is caught in genjutsu? She breaks out jut cuz she can use genjutsu? She is not a genjutsu master when she only has one genjutsu.

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Well you see at that point, she calls no genzy's and with no genzy's in effect all Genjutsu can no longer be used. It's part of the honor system and since kurenai has honor she'd have to do it.....while Tayuya on the other hand having no honor could completely ignore this rule.


But seriously doesn't Tayuya have Genjutsu that makes you think you're dissolving away to nothing or something?

[Vivi]

Yup.Makes you think your skin and flesh melts off your body.

[Devils Lawyer]

Kurenai wins pretty easily. This is like Part 1 Naruto with just a rasengan going up against Zabuza. He would get his ass blitzed. Tayuya has way better jutsu. But the physical gap between genin and jonin is pretty huge in part 1.

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Well she also has those big dudes and didn't they like stomp a team of Jonin before Naruto and the others showed up?