Danzo vs Hiruzen (3rd hokage)

[scallanan]

Ok, so this thread is to see who you think would win between Danzo and Hiruzen (3rd hokage). Both shinobi fighting at the same skill as before their deaths.

So here is a bit about both shinobi. You make your decision. Please vote!

Danzo skills:

Ninjutsu
Wind-style jutsu:
Wind Release Stream - Can be used to change direction of motion in the air. Helps him dodge not only attacks on the ground but while in mid-air also. Makes him harder to hit, and if used along with izanagi, can make it hard to get Danzo to his last sharingan in his arm.
Wind style Vacuum Blade - Like asuma's blade, this wind jutsu increases the piercing ability and range, making it fierce for both close to long range weapons. Can be used with shuriken as well (or any weapon for that matter).
Wind style vacuum bomb - Quite a powerful wind technique
Wind style vacuum blast barrage - Another powerful wind technique that can slice through objects
Wind style vacuum bullets - Long range, with great piercing ability. Also very fast
Wind style vacuum blast - Ordinary enough wind style jutsu

Sealing jutsu:
Reverse Tetragram Sealing Jutsu - To make sure his opponent does not survive, when on the brink of death danzo can use this special sealing jutsu, capable of sealing anything within a medium radius around him.
Danzo's curse seal jutsu - Can be used in battle. Paralyzes his opponent with this, by simple placing his hand on them. With enough chakra released, the seal can be broken, such as when sasuke broke free with susano'o. Hiruzen's chakra is powerful

Dojutsu:
Izanagi - This jutsu can be activated for a period of 60 seconds at a time before the sharingan casting it loses it's light. Also takes a huge toll on the user's chakra. With ten sharingan in danzo's right arm he could use this ten times before dying. It negates all injuries or death and casts it away as a dream. I find that danzo's skill with his sharingan are poor, and he senslessly uses izanagi instead of dodging attacks that are possible for him to dodge. He may have used that as a scare tactic showing off his "immortality."
Kotoamatsukami - This dojutsu was granted to Danzo the day he implanted Shisui Uchiha's legendary eye into him. This also shows Danzo is capable of using the mangekyo sharingan. This jutsu puts the opponent in a genjutsu and control his thoughts, all while they don't know what's happening to them. It also doesn't require eye contact as seen at the five kage summit. There's very little hope once you're caught in this genjutsu.
Normal Genjutsu - He could use and dispel genjutsu, even Sasuke's incomplete tsukuyomi with general ease.

Wood style jutsu:
Since Danzo had hashirama's cells implanted, he could use wood style jutsu. Although this wasn't shown very much throughout the series (only shown when he tried to dodge susano'os attack. This implanting of cells made him be able to equip and control so many sharingan at once, use izanagi on sharingan that aren't in his eye socket, and use kotoamatsukami every few hours (instead of once every 10 years which was the usual period before it could be used again).

Other jutsu:
Summoning jutsu - Danzo's summoning can create a powerful suction which can increase his other jutsu's penetrating power (enough to cut through a complete susano'o


Taijutsu
Danzo showed a certain amount of skill in taijutsu, kicking karin away with one kick, and fighting off sasuke at certain times (who excelled in it during his training with orochimaru).


Other things to note
Intelligence - Danzo showed some intelligence at certain parts in his fight with sasuke. He used karin as a hostage which could've worked had it not been for sasuke's "evil" intentions. He also used baku to create a huge suction to increase the power of his attacks. Despite this he did seem to have little knowledge on how to use sharingan properly, as said by tobi when he said it's not about the power of the jutsu, it's about the skill of the wielder.






Hiruzen's skills:

Ninjutsu

Earth-style jutsu:
Earth style clone - A clone that can hold an opponent tightly in place and mould when hit to different forms. Good for restraining or keeping pressure on their opponent
Earth Style: Headhunter Jutsu - Same as kakashi, can be used to restrain movement of the opponent and gives the wielder a chance to follow up with a strike.
Earth Style: Earth Dragon Bomb Long range jutsu that can be used alongside fire style jutsus for increased damage
Earth Style: Great Mud River - Creates slippery mud underneath the opponent. Can be followed up with a long range jutsu or other attacks. Especially effective on sloped surfaces such as the roof during the battle of orochimaru and hiruzen.
Earth Style: Mud Wall - High defensive capabilities. Can be used to surround the opponent entirely if needed be

Fire-style jutsu:
Fire Style: Fire Dragon Bomb - A fire style jutsu with a long enough range. Good for use along with Earth Style: Earth Dragon Bomb
Fire Style: Dragon Flame Bomb - A much stronger and a hard-to-master fire style jutsu that takes form of a large dragon and can be manipulated to move in all directions.

Other jutsu:
Sealing Jutsu: Reaper Death Seal - Also used by Minato, this was a very effective sealing jutsu. One serious downfall is that once used, the user will also be sealed in it forever. Strong will can slow down the sealing, and certain medical abilities such as Tsunade's can heal an impartial seal (like orochimaru).
Ninja Art: Tile Shuriken - Not used in places without tiles. Not an important jutsu in Hiruzen's arsenal
Shadow clone Jutsu - Can be used for various things as would a shadow clone do
Ninja Art: Shuriken Shadow Clone Jutsu - Quite a useful jutsu as a last minute clone of shurikens can catch their opponent off
Summoning jutsu (Monkey king enma) - Hiruzen's Summoning was a powerful monkey king that could transform into a staff that was harder than diamond. It could be used as a weapon and a defense, and can be made longer (with no limit on the distance). Can also create a defensive box around Hiruzen.


Other things to note
At the time of Hiruzen's death, he was considered to be the strongest of all the five kage. He was also considered to be the strongest hokage ever in his prime, and was referred to as a "God of Shinobi". In terms of taijutsu, Hiruzen displayed a very high level of it in old age. He was able to counter Tobirama and Hashirama in close combat, despite them being in their prime in the Reanimation jutsu. Even when robbed of his sight from the genjutsu Genjutsu: Infinite Darkness Jutsu, he could still defend himself from Hashirama's and Tobirama's assaults, blocking all their attacks to prepare for his Sealing Jutsu: Reaper Death Seal. His intelligence was also considerable, and his knowledge of jutsu was great (especially those from konoha (which includes many of Danzo's jutsu)).

[Nixu Hyuga]

This needs to be moved to the Narutoverse section.

[PrinceofPeace]

Baku the end.... Hiruzen does not have the heart/stamina to kill him a lot

[scallanan]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Baku the end.... Hiruzen does not have the heart/stamina to kill him a lot

I thought Hiruzen showed a lot of stamina against orochimaru. He took on both first and second hokage in their prime, along with orochimaru himself, and still managed to take the 2 hokages out of orochimaru's control and almost managed to seal him as well. For 1 old fella I have to say that's impressive. Now maybe the hokages weren't using their full potential but the fight did show that even in his old age, hiruzen was capable of withstanding a long battle and that he still had a lot of his prowess that he was once revered for. Now for argument's sake, what would your thoughts be on danzo (in his prime with izanagi and cell implants from hashirama) vs hiruzen (in his prime)? Who would be the victor then?

[Saiyan]

I voted sarutobi