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Old 04-19-2013, 06:31 PM   #1
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I was thinking that members of the forum, mod or not, should be able to lock their own threads. But have a limit to locking them. Like if they lock it, then unlock it, and repeat that process 3 times, then they cannot lock/unlock it again. The mods are able to lock/unlock them permanitly. So if someone makes a thread, and that person is not a mod, and a mod locks it, the person who made the thread cannot unlock it. How does this sound?
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:33 PM   #2
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I could see lots of abuse from this.
Like especially when people are in a bit of a debate, and the op decides to lock the thread after they made their point, leaving the rest unable to reply.
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Like especially when people are in a bit of a debate, and the op decides to lock the thread after they made their point, leaving the rest unable to reply.
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Ok then. For everything else beside debates. Because you're right. That would be an ass move.
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Ok then. For everything else beside debates. Because you're right. That would be an ass move.
Even if it wasn't a debate there still would be abuse. Let's say the OP and member don't like each other or start arguing. The OP could just lock the thread out of hatred or anger for one member.
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I don't see much benefit that outweighs the possibilities of abuse. Those thread open/closing limits aren't very plausible sounding either without modifying something somewhere. There are already plenty of mods that can open and close threads on request if it's necessary.

I'm open to debate on how the positives of it may outweigh the negatives, but I don't see much hope for the idea as is.
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There are no positives for this. It will be abused. People will lock their threads when the thread isn't going the way they want it. I don't see a reason for this. Moderators are there for a reason: if we give everyone thread locking powers, then we might as well stop having moderators
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I agree with Daph and sajuuk. Plus, if someone doesn't like someone or whatever, they will lock their thread. But, yeah I'm all for a debate about this.
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I mean the limit should be lock once every week or day MAYBE same with lock. I mean I have seen times that I am in a thread I made and no mods to lock it. Then it goes on. But that is rare. I would not consider this imo. But there are some pos to this.
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well you guys could make a new rule about locking or unlocking or deleting your won threads like you can't lock or delete threads when you are in a discussion or when your thread has more then 20 posts in it, and if people would go against those rules they will get infected. (its just a idea how this could work without people abuseing it)
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If it's possible, idk how the coding would work but special permission perhaps? Like a specific thread or thread limit to how many op's you can lock in a month.
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If it's possible, idk how the coding would work but special permission perhaps? Like a specific thread or thread limit to how many op's you can lock in a month.
It isn't possible in vBulletin to limit how many thread lockings you can do. You either have the permission or you don't. And as I've said, it will just be abused with people closing their threads whenever someone posts something they don't like or the thread doesn't go the way they want it to be. It should be the moderators decision: not the user's.
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No point, the moderators have rather limited functions in terms of power, if you take that away, they may as well not have any moderators on the forum.
People can only abusr this because there already plenty of moderators that visit the forum often, debate threads will not go well because people who lose their debates will just lock the threads and people will get jealous of other peoples threads.. And end up locking all of eachothers thread.
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Giving people infractions for misusing this ability likely won't rectify it. People still post Viz images in the user albums when we give them warning after warning. People argue with mods after giving them warnings and clearly outlining the parts in the rules their message violates (which, just FYI, were shortened because we felt more people would follow shorter rules) and now you intend to give those same people the ability to use a form of moderation on a whim. Additionally, it is unlikely anybody can follow rules with moderation powers when they can't follow the simple, concise rules that are in place for the forum. And not all of you, just the problem users.

The only way this COULD work would be to just pick out problem users from having this ability. By the time this happens, most of you will be pruned out and we will be in a similar situation to when Sir Michael, I believe, requested assistant mods, which was an idea with the right intention but not practical.

I just see no reason for this. Our staff list is pretty large as it is. We also have hidden staff who aren't showing up on forum leaders including 2 Quasi admins, just to put things into perspective.

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I wasen't thinking about the mod thing. I thought mods could do more than just lock threads so it would not matter. I was thinking it might make their jobs easier. Like Shikamaru was saying, just pick out the people who abuse it. Give it to people who has a cetain amount of rep points. No one will rep somebody that much, if they act like a complete ass. This is just a suggestion though. Anybody with rep points over 1000 and posts over 12000. Have to have both of these requierments in order to do it. So how's this?
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Still against it.

Just for the record, on this site, I THINK this is all mods can do, although SMods might have some extra permissions, since a lot of people seem to think that mods can only lock threads.

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As you can see, there are very few tools that we use on a regular basis, and locking is one of them. I just don't think distributing that ability to other people is such a good idea.

It would be impossible to pick out the guys with those kinds of rep and posts. At that point, it wouldn't even be worth it. It's not like we have an infestation of problem threads and are locking multiple threads in an hour. Maybe we get a few locks a day at best. There's no reason why people should have a power that won't benefit the forums. Also, even though people who act like an ass might not get the required rep points, there are also people who just wouldn't do well with the power. A lot of people have here having maturity issues, are power hungry, or both. If we wanted somebody to have powers, they would most likely have them.

In other words, you can be an angel or a really great member, with a relatively clean infraction history, everyone likes you, blah blah blah, and still not be fit to be a mod. That's what happened with a number of our previous staff members. Giving names wouldn't be professional, but if you think hard enough you will definitely recall that people were removed from staff for relatively vague reasons.
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It's not that big of a deal if your thread doesn't get locked the moment it goes sour. Someone'll get to it eventually, just be patient. You can also message a mod to get to it for you. If it's that bad and no one's online, it's not like you'll be able to delete the thread. You'd just be able to lock it which is about as useful as locking a burglar in your house.

I don't trust you guys with the ability to lock your own threads. Not necessarily you joon. Anyways, no, this won't happen.
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and I don't trust you guys as well, someone locked my Death Valley thread, although I was going to use it for my missions as well, I would like it if it was unlocked.
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It's not that big of a deal if your thread doesn't get locked the moment it goes sour. Someone'll get to it eventually, just be patient. You can also message a mod to get to it for you. If it's that bad and no one's online, it's not like you'll be able to delete the thread. You'd just be able to lock it which is about as useful as locking a burglar in your house.

I don't trust you guys with the ability to lock your own threads. Not necessarily you joon. Anyways, no, this won't happen.
Alright then. I'll think of something else then.... Soooooo...... You can lock this thread now.
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